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Massdrop created a list for the GTX1080, I would not call it a drop because it is listed at 700$ which is the same MSRP from Nvidia, it costs 77$ to ship to Lebanon and it will ship around 1st June, so roughly it will arrive at the start of August, as for customs I only tried Massdrop with a 60$ mouse and no customs were requested at delivery, I only paid the item price + Massdrop shipping, so at the end 770$ is almost the same price of the cheapest 980Ti in Lebanon (760$ for MSI 980Ti Gaming at pcandparts)

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/msi-gtx-1080-founders-edition
AMD Vega or 1080Ti is the way to go (for me) , surprisingly from recent reviews the 1070 actually beat the Titan X on 1440p and comes on par on 2160p , even with a 256bit bus width and ddr5 , the increase in Cuda Cores played a role. However , it will not be a future proof even with these results as more AAA demanding games are rolling out even if the 1070 managed 60 fps on 1440p on some demanding titles, the narrow memory bandwidth with DDR5 will create shutters and FPS spikes. DDR5x / HBM / HBM 2.0 are the way to go. But comparatively 980Ti vs 1070 (1070 all the way ,higher Performance/ Price Ratio , more efficient , much better Asynchronous Computer Performance on Direct X 12 , New Pascal Tweaks); 980Ti as a present investment will have a negative ROI.
As long as Denuvo is not cracked I won't consider a Pascal card
And anyway wait for October/November for prices drop, can you buy from aliexpress or they will charge customs too?
Damn the 1070 is a bit deceiving, it's sometimes slightly better than Titan and sometimes just as good as 980 Ti, the 1080 is greatly overpriced even if it's a 4K powerhouse, the difference between 1070 and 1080 in performance is huge while it was insignificant between the 970 and 980.
I think I am gonna skip this round unless Nvidia comes up with a 1070 Plus edition with better fps in 1440p-4K DSR
I am getting some Gigabyte 1080's by next week if anyone is interested.
Final price isn't fixed yet, but should be around 610-620$
Ngel wroteI am getting some Gigabyte 1080's by next week if anyone is interested.
Final price isn't fixed yet, but should be around 610-620$
This one you mean?
haidcar wroteVega10 + Summit Ridge.
While Vega will surely beat the GTX 1070 and 1080, we have to wait and see what it delivers.

HBM2 is nice, and its production is ahead of schedule, so Vega might actually launch in October according to some sources, Summit Ridge might launch in October too, which makes both come to market before Big Pascal and Kaby Lake (not too sure, but according to MSI, 200 series boards will come out in November, and while most 100 series boards support Kaby Lake, they'll probably do like the 80 and 90 series boards, they'll launch the 200 series, which support Skylake, Kaby Lake and Cannonlake, the day they launch Kaby Lake).

Problem is according to some sources, AMD will only launch hexa and octa core CPUs, and may only launch quad cores for OEMs, so unless they price Summit Ridge competitively it'll be enthusiast-only. I think AMD may market APUs for the mainstream and CPUs for the enthusiast-class.
If you crossfire the two new AMDs it will be a total of 400$ and it will outrange the 1080. I just love these wars between Nvidia and AMD.
Johnaudi wroteIf you crossfire the two new AMDs it will be a total of 400$ and it will outrange the 1080. I just love these wars between Nvidia and AMD.
Nvidia went too far with their pricings, they think they have the monopoly of the market but ATI can do a difference like back in 4850 times...
Ngel wroteI am getting some Gigabyte 1080's by next week if anyone is interested.
Final price isn't fixed yet, but should be around 610-620$
Final price in lebanon or abroad? If final price in lebanon, I'm interested.
silo_m8 wrote
Ngel wroteI am getting some Gigabyte 1080's by next week if anyone is interested.
Final price isn't fixed yet, but should be around 610-620$
Final price in lebanon or abroad? If final price in lebanon, I'm interested.
My bet that the pricings will start at 700$ and abroad (amazon/newegg), when it will arrive into our market expect 200$+ price difference in the first couple of months
vegetaleb wrote
Johnaudi wroteIf you crossfire the two new AMDs it will be a total of 400$ and it will outrange the 1080. I just love these wars between Nvidia and AMD.
Nvidia went too far with their pricings, they think they have the monopoly of the market but ATI can do a difference like back in 4850 times...
The RX 480 is disruptive af. It offers R9 Nano performance (before overclocking) and 4GB of VRAM for $200 (or 8GB of VRAM for $230), meanwhile the GTX 1070 offers 980 Ti performance and 8GB of VRAM for $370, the 480 delivers nearly 80-85% of the 1070's performance for $170 (for the 4GB version) or $140 (for the 8GB version) cheaper.

Nvidia is in a pretty precarious position, as a GTX 1060 that matches the RX 480 will cut deeply into the sales of the 1070.
silo_m8 wrote
Ngel wroteI am getting some Gigabyte 1080's by next week if anyone is interested.
Final price isn't fixed yet, but should be around 610-620$
Final price in lebanon or abroad? If final price in lebanon, I'm interested.
Final price. Just waiting final confirmation and i'll tell you guys the exact price, but it should be around the 620's
Die_Kapitan wrote
vegetaleb wrote
Johnaudi wroteIf you crossfire the two new AMDs it will be a total of 400$ and it will outrange the 1080. I just love these wars between Nvidia and AMD.
Nvidia went too far with their pricings, they think they have the monopoly of the market but ATI can do a difference like back in 4850 times...
The RX 480 is disruptive af. It offers R9 Nano performance (before overclocking) and 4GB of VRAM for $200 (or 8GB of VRAM for $230), meanwhile the GTX 1070 offers 980 Ti performance and 8GB of VRAM for $370, the 480 delivers nearly 80-85% of the 1070's performance for $170 (for the 4GB version) or $140 (for the 8GB version) cheaper.

Nvidia is in a pretty precarious position, as a GTX 1060 that matches the RX 480 will cut deeply into the sales of the 1070.

I great with you , so what do you think to go with 480x Cross Fire (real benchmarks will show the real comparative performance compared to a single 1080) , or stick with a single 1070OC or 1080 Oc , or wait for a 1080Ti and what Vega will offer , I suspect HBM 2.0 will witness a release this year even in Vega.
Ngel wrote
silo_m8 wrote
Ngel wroteI am getting some Gigabyte 1080's by next week if anyone is interested.
Final price isn't fixed yet, but should be around 610-620$
Final price in lebanon or abroad? If final price in lebanon, I'm interested.
Final price. Just waiting final confirmation and i'll tell you guys the exact price, but it should be around the 620's

Negal Dude,

Which Gibabyte GTX 1080 (the G1 Gaming , Xtreme Gaming , or the Reference) and does your source provide a full year warranty on the 1080. I am interested to here further details.
Tech Guru wrote
Die_Kapitan wrote
vegetaleb wrote
Nvidia went too far with their pricings, they think they have the monopoly of the market but ATI can do a difference like back in 4850 times...
The RX 480 is disruptive af. It offers R9 Nano performance (before overclocking) and 4GB of VRAM for $200 (or 8GB of VRAM for $230), meanwhile the GTX 1070 offers 980 Ti performance and 8GB of VRAM for $370, the 480 delivers nearly 80-85% of the 1070's performance for $170 (for the 4GB version) or $140 (for the 8GB version) cheaper.

Nvidia is in a pretty precarious position, as a GTX 1060 that matches the RX 480 will cut deeply into the sales of the 1070.

I great with you , so what do you think to go with 480x Cross Fire (real benchmarks will show the real comparative performance compared to a single 1080) , or stick with a single 1070OC or 1080 Oc , or wait for a 1080Ti and what Vega will offer , I suspect HBM 2.0 will witness a release this year even in Vega.
I'd wait for Vega. While dual RX 480's offer great bang-for-buck as you can pick up two 8GB versions for $460 (you're looking at around $550~$600 in Lebanon), but, while DX12 and Vulkan promise much better compatibility and performance for dual-GPU solutions, they still come with some cons, like higher power usage (not really an issue with Polaris since they only sip power, but 300W isn't somethings that can be ignored either) and compatibility issues in old games, indie games and very new games (you may have to wait a week or so to be able to use CF/SLI). The GTX 1080 is overpriced for what you get and the GTX 1070 is a bit pointless since you can get 80-85% of its performance for slightly north of half the price by going with a 480. Vega will surely have a GPU that beats the 1070 and 1080 in performance (RTG are doimg the same as Polaris with Vega, two GPUs and each has two cards featuring it, but the less powerful Vega GPU won't be strictly for laptops like Polaris 11) and will force Nvidia to lower the prices of the 1080 and 1070 to be able to competent, so you'll have a wider range of video cards to choose from if you wait for Vega (which according to rumors is coming out with Zen in October). Hynix are ahead of schedule with their production of HBM2 that's why we may see an early Vega, GDDR5X wasn't supposed to be launched until August, but Micron were ahead of schedule which allowed Nvidia to launch the 1080 with GDDR5X instead of GDDR5, and RTG won't have make all Vega cards only HBM2 (Vega 11 will likely have GDDR5X memory and Vega 10 will have HBM2 memory) which lowers the supply issue.

EDIT: RTG might be announcing, the RX 470 and RX 480X at E3, as during Computex they said the Polaris price range is $100-$300 and the RX 480 is $200 so they'll most likely announce a competitor for the 1070 (or 1060 Ti, maybe?) and a competitor for the 1050.
Here's a question, why are all the cards on Amazon etc all FOUNDER'S EDITION?!

Seriously, I want to order one and have a friend bring with him, but seriously, I can't find the standards, NON FOUNDER's edition model! Am i missing something? Are they not released yet?
I'm rocking a GTX980.

Is it worth going for the 1080 or better wait for 1080ti? I don't mind waiting an extra few months.

The 980 is a 1080P killer, but suffers on 2K.
MrClass wroteI'm rocking a GTX980.

Is it worth going for the 1080 or better wait for 1080ti? I don't mind waiting an extra few months.

The 980 is a 1080P killer, but suffers on 2K.
At the very least wait for Vega, the 1080 is overpriced for what you get, just like the last two x80's were until AMD released their new cards (although the 980 continued to be overpriced), Vega 10 will surely beat the 1080 by a fair margin which means you can go with Vega 10 instead of waiting for the 1080 Ti as at worst it'll be 5% slower which will make the 1080 Ti not worth the wait. Just my two cents (damn! my thoughts are cheap)