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abouelchich

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a good affordable laser b/w printer

Hello guys,

any suggestion about an affordable b/w laser printer. i want to be able to remove the drum ( toner) and refill it. i want it to work 100%.

Thank you all

invo

Member

Re: a good affordable laser b/w printer

I can help with prices and models but unfortunately i cant recommend one .. but you can always check the reviews online for practicality and refill

1     PRINTERS.     Laser and Inkjet
2    CANON LBP 3010, A4, 14PPM, 2400x600DPI ( Toner Canon 312)    $105
3    CANON MP 140, 3 IN 1 ( Canon 40 and 41)    $53
4    EPSON LQ  300+II, 300CPS, 80 COL., 1+3, P/S/U    $165
5    EPSON LQ  690, 529CPS, 80 COL., 1+ 6, P/U    $380
6    EPSON LQ 2090, 440CPS, 132COL., 1+4, P/U    soon
7    EPSON LQ 2180, 480CPS, 132COL., 1+5, P     soon
8    Epson R1900, A3+, 5760DPI, 15PPM, 8 INKS, PHOTO & CD Printer    $810
9    HP CLJ 1215, A4, 600DPI, 12PPM, 16M (Toners HP 540 series)   
10    HP DJ 1663, A4, 4800 DPI, 20PPM, U ( HP 121B and 121C)    $30
11    HP DJ K7000, A3, 4800DPI, 32PPM, 32MB, U + Lan (HP971, 634, 635, 636)    $220
12    HP LJ M1120MFP, A4, 1200 DPI, 3 IN 1, 19 PPM, 32MB (Toner HP 36)    n/a
13    HP LJ M1319F, A4, 1200 DPI, 4 IN 1, 18 PPM, 32MB, Hand Set (Toner Canon 303)    n/a
14    HP LJ P1005, A4,600DPI, 14PPM, 2MB, U ( toner HP35)    $110
15    HP LJ P2035, A4, 1200 DPI, 24PPM, 16MB, P+U (Toner HP 505A)   
16    HP PSC F2483, 3 IN 1 ( HP 121B and 121C)    $55
17    HP PSCF 3680, 4 IN 1 + Hand Set, New !! ( HP 21 and 22)    $90
18    HP PSCF 4580, 4 IN 1 , FlatBed . 28PPM, 16MB( HP 901B and 901C)    $100
19    SAMSUNG CLP 315, COLOR LASER    ( Toners 409 series)                     $200
20    SAMSUNG CLX-3175FN, 4 in 1, COLOR    ( Toners 409 series)                     n/a
21    SAMSUNG ML 1640, A4, 2M, 17PPM ( Toner D108)    $83
22    SAMSUNG SCX-4300, 3 IN 1 LASER  ( Toner D109)      $130
23    SAMSUNG SCX-4521F, 4 IN 1 LASER ( Toner 4521)    $240
24    Xerox 3100MFP/S 3 in 1, A4, 25PPM, 32MB    $125
25    Xerox 3100MFP/X 4 in 1, A4, 25PPM, 32MB    $195

invo

Member

Re: a good affordable laser b/w printer

HP LaserJet Black        
HP Laserjet P1505 - 24ppm 1200dpi  - 8MB - 8,000pages/month - USB 2.0                                    Supplies(CB436A)              $185.00    AV
HP Laserjet P2055DN - 33ppm 1200dpi  - 128MB - 50000pages per month - USB 2.0-Duplex-NETWORK    (Supplies : CE505A)    $460.00    AV
HP laserjet 5200 - 19 ppm A3,35ppm A4,black 1200dpi*1200dpi - 48MB -65,000 pages/month -Parallel&USB 2.0  (Supplies : Q7516)    $1,375.00    AV

HP AIO LaserJet Black and Color       
HP Laserjet M1522NF - Printer-Scanner-Copier - Fax  - 23ppm 1200dpi - 64MB - Flatbed - ADF - USB 2.0 & Network - 8000pages/month                                                                                                                           (Supplies : CB436A)    $400.00    AV
HP CLJ CM1312 MFP- printer-scanner-copier-12ppm Black-8ppm Color-600dpi print- 128MB- Flatbed USB2.0 -30,000pages/month                                                                                                                                 (Supplies:CB540A,CB541A,CB542A,CB543A )    $465.00    AV
HP CLJ CM1312nfi MFP- printer-scanner-copier-Fax-12ppm Black-8ppm Color-600dpi print- 160MB- ADF-Reader-Flatbed USB2.0 -30,000pages/month-Network                                                                                          (Supplies:CB540A,CB541A,CB542A,CB543A )    $590.00    AV

Category    Printer    Brief Description    Price + VAT    Retail TTC    CPP
Mono Laser   
ML-1640    16ppm, 8MB, 1200x600Dpi, BLACK    $85    $99    $0.039
ML-1630 SLIM!!!    16ppm, 8MB, 1200x600Dpi, SLIM BLACK DESIGN    $140    $175    $0.029
ML-2240    22ppm, 8MB, 1200x600Dpi, Beige    $110    $135    $0.039
ML-2571N    24ppm, 32MB, 1200Dpi, Beige    $195    $239    $0.025
ML-2851ND    28ppm, 32MB, 1200Dpi, Network, Duplex, Beige    $275    $339    $0.029
ML-3471ND    33ppm, 64MB, 1200Dpi, Network, Duplex, Beige (Wifi Optional)    $450    $549    $0.017
ML-4050N NEW!!!    38ppm, 64MB, 1200Dpi, HDD 40GB, PCL, PS3, Network, Beige (Wifi Optional)    $765    $939    $0.010
ML-4551ND NEW!!!    43ppm, 128MB, 1200Dpi, HDD 40GB, PCL/PS3, ATOS Soft, Remote Doc Mgt', Workflow/Counter Solution, Network, Duplex, Beige    $1,225    $1,469    $0.010

abouelchich

Member

Re: a good affordable laser b/w printer

THanks invo for the price list, although it contains a lot more items not related.

however, i m looking for feedback from experienced people who have or use laser printers, and know that is can be refilled..

rawan

Member

Re: a good affordable laser b/w printer

Not sure if you have purchased one or not. But if it helps, I have a Samsung SCX-4300 (3-in-1)
I've had it for almost a year maybe. Pretty good printer. Decent speeds (18/19ppm). I like the 3-in-1 feature...(being able to photocopy without turning on the PC)... Scanner is ok..I don't use it much, but if I'm not mistaken, I recall reading reviews about it (before I purchased it) that it's not the best out there (color reproduction etc), but does the job.

As for the toner, the original costs $80. There are compatible ones for around $60. Refilling is possible (aroudn $30/$35 if I'm not mistaken), but had to spend hours and hours researching to successfully use the refilled toner.

Here's the deal...money-hungry samsung (as all companies) have found yet another way to screw consumers; not sure how other printers work, but this one has a chip on the toner that monitors how many papers you have printed...The toner "should"  last you around 2,000 papers. The toner level does not measure actual (or approximate) toner remaining, but uses the print count to see how much you have printed, and how much more you "should" be able to print.

How does that affect us? It's only logical that the toner lasts based on how much toner you have used, and not on how many papers you print. (Printing full A4 pictures uses more toner than a sentence of text.)

As far as I know, ink/toner level are never accurate. But on this printer; it starts giving you 'toner empty' when you reach the (allowed) page count. After a while, it gives you "toner exhausted" and refuses to print/photocopy anymore. It doesn't matter how much toner you still have. It doesn't matter if the toner is still full. You just can't print anymore. Thus, the problem with refilling is that, even when the toner is completely full, you still get "toner exhausted" and cannot print.

There's a (fairly) easy way to solve this. (well, easy to implement, but sure as hell wasn't easy to find)... It just needs a simple firmware crack...and either remove the chip on the toner or (what I did) stick a piece of scotch tape on it (so the sensor on the printer can't read the chip anymore). If anyone needs more help on that (cracking the firmware), let me know :)

PS: Just to give you an idea; it gave me "toner exhausted" and stopped printing a few months back. I cracked the firmware and stuck a piece of scotch tape on the toner. It has printed around 700 papers since (and still is printing) on that same (supposedly) "exhausted" toner!