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#1 July 7 2015

samer
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Lebanese army paid over 1M USD for spyware

"HackingTeam" is an Italian company that sells spyware to governments. It was hacked yesterday and a 400 GB torrent surfaced with all their emails, source code and other sensitive data.

One of the invoices is addressed to the Lebanese army. Apparently they purchased "Remote Control System: Galileo", a software that helps governments "take control of [their] targets and monitor them regardless of encryption and mobility". Here's a video promoting Galileo.

The invoice indicates that 1.15 million USD is only the first settlement and not the total price of the software.

vnmWtjFl.jpg

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#2 July 7 2015

Die_Kapitan
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samer wrote:

"HackingTeam" is an Italian company that sells spyware to governments. It was hacked yesterday and a 400 GB torrent surfaces with all their emails, source code and other sensitive data.

One of the invoices is addressed to the Lebanese army. Apparently they purchased "Remote Control System: Galileo", a software that helps governments "take control of [their] targets and monitor them regardless of encryption and mobility". Here's a video promoting Galileo.

The invoice indicates that 1.15 million USD is only the first settlement and not the total price of the software.

https://i.imgur.com/vnmWtjFl.jpg

Is it the start of the police state ? Are we going down the path the US took ? Lebanese Security Agency (LSA) anybody ?

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#3 July 7 2015

rolf
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Hearing that, my first thought is not about privacy and snooping, but more about money squandering and laundering.

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#4 July 7 2015

DG
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Interesting... to say the least.

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#5 July 7 2015

bogdan22
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The irony with what happened, "the HackingTeam" got hacked.

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#6 July 7 2015

ironman
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no more freedom in this country.

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#7 July 7 2015

Hybrid
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USA, Cyprus and many other countries use it too.

I just wonder how it exactly works...

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#8 July 7 2015

ironman
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Between "Jara2em l Ma3loumetiyye" and the "Intelligence" and the "Ma3loumet" .... wow it's really....
and with all those technologies, they couldn't catch the child kidnapper, and his poor parents had to pay 50K for the kidnappers :)

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#9 July 7 2015

bermudapineapple
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What's wrong with the intelligence services investing in hacking software/hardware? I would be surprised if this wasn't happening.

It doesn't necessarily mean the big, bad government is here to spook around on all your innocent porn-watching. They use this stuff to go after suspects and criminals which is fine by me.

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#10 July 7 2015

ironman
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@tt400, this is why criminals are kidnapping people, stealing cars, and getting paid, did you hear about the kidnap in Amchit 3 days ago?

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#11 July 7 2015

ILIA_93
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tt400 wrote:

It doesn't necessarily mean the big, bad government is here to spook around on all your innocent porn-watching. They use this stuff to go after suspects and criminals which is fine by me.

The NSA also isn't concerned with spooking on Americans' porn history, but I think the Americans understand a little bit more about privacy than you do pal :)

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#12 July 7 2015

geekevo
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For some reason i seriously doubt the effectiveness of this Galileo software,  the claims sound too good to be true.

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#13 July 7 2015

Anthony2000
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that ad on youtube is so cheesy

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#14 July 7 2015

bermudapineapple
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ILIA_93 wrote:

The NSA also isn't concerned with spooking on Americans' porn history, but I think the Americans understand a little bit more about privacy than you do pal :)

If you honestly believe the ISF is attempting to emulate the NSA or its operations in any way or that the ISF has 10 percent of the capability of the NSA, you are living in another world, buddy.


ironman wrote:

@tt400, this is why criminals are kidnapping people, stealing cars, and getting paid, did you hear about the kidnap in Amchit 3 days ago?

Look at the statistics regarding the success rates of various famous departments like Interpol, the NYPD, or the GIGN. These are some of the most successful police departments in the entire world and even they cannot solve all crimes or apprehend all criminals on their watch. To suggest that the Lebanese police force, with all its corruption, weaknesses, and political bullshit problems, should be capable of solving all of these problems with ease is laughable. Why don't you go try being a police officer in this country with the budget and accessibility the government has before you talk? Do you know there are some municipalities in Lebanon that have only ONE official policeman on duty? So what are you talking about? You are expecting the FBI in Lebanon? This is a joke.

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#15 July 7 2015

rolf
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Bottom line is if there are millions to spend, collected from people, coz hey that's where the government gets it's funding, maybe, just maybe you know, there would be better places to spend them than pretentious software to spy on your own people (those people who pay your salary, you know), and it's a loosing battle on top.
You know what this looks like to me? It looks like software to make hackers and geniuses out of troglodytes. I would not be betting on it too much.
But some kind of money laundering scheme? Maybe.

At the very best, our money squandered.

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#16 July 7 2015

samer
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geekevo wrote:

For some reason i seriously doubt the effectiveness of this Galileo software,  the claims sound too good to be true.

I'm fairly sure that the dozens of governments around the world who spent millions of dollars on the software have done enough due diligence about its effectiveness. That doesn't mean you can't take measures to defend yourself.

What's wrong with the intelligence services investing in hacking software/hardware? I would be surprised if this wasn't happening.

We both know how widespread corruption is in Lebanon. This amplifies the likelihood of misusing these tools. As rolf mentioned, I would rather see the military spend that money on educating and training their personnel as well as updating their infrastructure.

So what are you talking about? You are expecting the FBI in Lebanon? This is a joke.

Good point, maybe they shouldn't act like the FBI by spending millions on non-critical software when there are more pressing matters.

Why don't you go try being a police officer in this country with the budget and accessibility the government has before you talk?

No need to be aggressive. We strive to be a friendly community where critical thinking and structured argumentation are encouraged.

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#17 July 7 2015

bermudapineapple
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samer wrote:

We both know how widespread corruption is in Lebanon. This amplifies the likelihood of misusing these tools. As rolf mentioned, I would rather see the military spend that money on educating and training their personnel as well as updating their infrastructure.

Good point, maybe they shouldn't act like the FBI by spending millions on non-critical software when there are more pressing matters.

I agree with the notion that the ISF could be spending that money more wisely, but that wasn't what was being discussed. I was pointing how fears of a big, scary police-state in Lebanon are ridiculous. In fact, you can argue that the opposite is true of this country. There isn't enough police presence!

No need to be aggressive. We strive to be a friendly community where critical thinking and structured argumentation are encouraged.

Wasn't being aggressive. Apologies if that was how I came off.

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#18 July 7 2015

Hybrid
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#19 July 7 2015

Die_Kapitan
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tt400 wrote:

Look at the statistics regarding the success rates of various famous departments like Interpol, the NYPD, or the GIGN. These are some of the most successful police departments in the entire world and even they cannot solve all crimes or apprehend all criminals on their watch.

The NYPD ? successful ? That's the most racist PD in the world, they don't even solve crimes, they just kill people. Just a bunch of thugs.

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#20 July 7 2015

geekevo
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samer wrote:
geekevo wrote:

For some reason i seriously doubt the effectiveness of this Galileo software,  the claims sound too good to be true.

I'm fairly sure that the dozens of governments around the world who spent millions of dollars on the software have done enough due diligence about its effectiveness. That doesn't mean you can't take measures to defend yourself.

Exactly, but then whats the point of the entire system if the people it is meant to be targeting can simply just protect themselves.

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#21 July 8 2015

rtp
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why would you buy hardware from hackers, its like asking to be hacked. For 1 million $USD I would have a competition for $3000 and hire the winner or a team for the rest of their life and the life of their children... Am getting more confident that this government is ran by monkeys that are pressing red buttons at random.

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#22 July 8 2015

ironman
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@tt400, i knew what i was talking about because i visited the "Jara2em l Ma3loumetiye" thing, i've been there, and trust me i know stuff about it, about the skills of the personnel, and personally i really have a value for something called "Privacy", those tools are probably used to track people who insult the president on facebook or on twitter

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#23 July 8 2015

NuclearVision
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You think this isnt part of "5as5asa".
As someone said there should have been a "mona2asa".
Too bad they have big money margin, while people die on the streets.

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#24 July 8 2015

NuclearVision
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Is there any chance that this could be photoshopped?

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#25 July 8 2015

ironman
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@NuclearVision, no man this image is retrieved from the 400GB Torrent.

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