LebGeeks

NickTheQuick

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

no problem.. hope you figured it out.

Hey Andrew, is there a way to switch modulations on my technicolor TG852n ? It seems i can only change between G992.1, G992.3 and G992.5 Using telnet client.  Is there anything more I can do or that's pretty much it ?. Thanks in advance

andrew55

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

it's a small village north of Jbeil so i'm lucky to have 4 lol.. nevertheless, i am physically 1.1 km from the CO..

xDSL
Mode    ADSL_G.dmt
Traffic Type     ATM
Status     Up
Link Power State     L0
    Downstream    Upstream
Line Coding (Trellis)    On    On
SNR Margin (dB)    26.9    24.0
Attenuation (dB)    23.5    14.5
Output Power (dBm)    19.9    12.5
Attainable Rate (Kbps)    11304    1184
Rate (Kbps)    4096    512
K (number of bytes in DMT frame)    129    17
R (number of check bytes in RS code word)    16    8
S (RS code word size in DMT frame)    1.00    1.00
D (interleaver depth)    64    2
Delay (msec)    16.00    4.00
INP (DMT symbol)    3.53    0.04
Super Frames    8799401    8798475
Super Frame Errors    0    6
RS Words    333011914    41626497
RS Correctable Errors    2553533    9
RS Uncorrectable Errors    0    0
HEC Errors    105    1
OCD Errors    5    0
LCD Errors    5    0
Total Cells    1445044647    0
Data Cells    83179677    0
Bit Errors    0    0
Total ES    0    0
Total SES    0    0
Total UAS    180    180

Last edited by andrew55 (June 29 2014)

andrew55

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

I got the commands from the link down below. I don't know of any other commands and i think that's pretty much all you can do. G.dmt is the best for me and i believe my CO won't accept G.lite

http://npr.me.uk/telnet.html

NickTheQuick

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

here are mine:
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 11,5 / 21,0

SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 25,0 / 33,0
i live in beirut and my co is in sakiyet al janzir so it's 1km max away from me and they told me that i can get 4mb max speed

Wow man this is so unfair considering the numbers you got! Did they tell you if the problem is from your end or the CO's ? If the bad wirings qualty is the problem you could try connecting your modem directly to the building phone box. An electrician will be needed though.

andrew55

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

I live in a village so its mostly homes and not apartment complexes. The phone line directly comes off a vertical column. IDM told me that the phone line doesn't necessarily have to follow the road path to my house which seems fair but one of my relatives lives probably 200-300 meters from the CO has an attenuation of 11 db (nearly double what he should have considering that the worst cable would give a 13 db loss for the first km!). So basically my phone line would have to go back and forth two times for me to have 23 db loss which sounds stupid but anyway.. most of the loss isn't from the phone lines i guess..

The last time i called IDM they told me the CO can't handle more than 4 mbps.. so i guess i'll have live with it.. and then i have to deal with IDM's overloaded connection between 10 pm and 2 am ( 4 to 1 mbps!).

And i think that's everyone's problems!

Last edited by andrew55 (June 29 2014)

m_zeid

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

EDIT: scratch that, already answered.

I decided to give this a try, and tried t1.413 and G.lite and both didn't sync, only G.dmt did.
and here are the ping results:

before and after:
(compared with multimode adsl2)

ping 8.8.8.8
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=103 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=46 time=165 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=3 ttl=46 time=388 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=4 ttl=46 time=148 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=5 ttl=46 time=184 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=6 ttl=46 time=249 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=7 ttl=46 time=224 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=8 ttl=46 time=101 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=9 ttl=46 time=112 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=10 ttl=46 time=104 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=11 ttl=46 time=151 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=12 ttl=46 time=124 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=13 ttl=46 time=175 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=14 ttl=46 time=104 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=15 ttl=46 time=218 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=16 ttl=46 time=236 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=17 ttl=46 time=360 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=18 ttl=46 time=578 ms
^C
--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
19 packets transmitted, 18 received, 5% packet loss, time 18024ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 101.127/207.415/578.377/121.458 ms

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ping 8.8.8.8
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=104 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=46 time=101 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=3 ttl=46 time=104 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=4 ttl=46 time=103 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=5 ttl=46 time=103 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=6 ttl=46 time=107 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=7 ttl=46 time=101 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=8 ttl=46 time=101 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=9 ttl=46 time=104 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=10 ttl=46 time=103 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=11 ttl=46 time=107 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=12 ttl=46 time=101 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=13 ttl=46 time=102 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=14 ttl=46 time=101 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=15 ttl=46 time=106 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=16 ttl=46 time=102 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=17 ttl=46 time=106 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=18 ttl=46 time=104 ms
^C
--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
18 packets transmitted, 18 received, 0% packet loss, time 17005ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 101.087/103.883/107.997/2.239 ms

========================================================================
ping bbc.co.uk
PING bbc.co.uk (212.58.244.18) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.244.18): icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=386 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.244.18): icmp_seq=2 ttl=48 time=420 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.244.18): icmp_seq=3 ttl=48 time=177 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.244.18): icmp_seq=4 ttl=48 time=118 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.244.18): icmp_seq=5 ttl=48 time=115 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.244.18): icmp_seq=6 ttl=48 time=120 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.244.18): icmp_seq=7 ttl=48 time=115 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.244.18): icmp_seq=8 ttl=48 time=117 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.244.18): icmp_seq=9 ttl=48 time=117 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.244.18): icmp_seq=10 ttl=48 time=119 ms

64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.244.18): icmp_seq=11 ttl=48 time=116 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.244.18): icmp_seq=12 ttl=48 time=116 ms
^C
--- bbc.co.uk ping statistics ---
12 packets transmitted, 12 received, 0% packet loss, time 11004ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 115.887/170.091/420.574/105.849 ms

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ping bbc.co.uk
PING bbc.co.uk (212.58.246.104) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.246.104): icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=117 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.246.104): icmp_seq=2 ttl=49 time=121 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.246.104): icmp_seq=3 ttl=49 time=118 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.246.104): icmp_seq=4 ttl=49 time=121 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.246.104): icmp_seq=5 ttl=49 time=117 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.246.104): icmp_seq=6 ttl=49 time=121 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.246.104): icmp_seq=7 ttl=49 time=117 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.246.104): icmp_seq=8 ttl=49 time=122 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.246.104): icmp_seq=9 ttl=49 time=118 ms
64 bytes from bbc.co.uk (212.58.246.104): icmp_seq=10 ttl=49 time=123 ms
^C
--- bbc.co.uk ping statistics ---
11 packets transmitted, 10 received, 9% packet loss, time 10013ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 117.094/120.043/123.887/2.393 ms

==================================================================

ping google.com
PING google.com (77.42.253.49) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.49): icmp_seq=1 ttl=60 time=48.8 ms
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.49): icmp_seq=2 ttl=60 time=51.8 ms
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.49): icmp_seq=3 ttl=60 time=49.7 ms
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.49): icmp_seq=4 ttl=60 time=53.1 ms
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.49): icmp_seq=5 ttl=60 time=48.8 ms
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.49): icmp_seq=6 ttl=60 time=54.7 ms
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.49): icmp_seq=7 ttl=60 time=51.0 ms
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.49): icmp_seq=8 ttl=60 time=55.9 ms
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.49): icmp_seq=9 ttl=60 time=52.9 ms
^C
--- google.com ping statistics ---
9 packets transmitted, 9 received, 0% packet loss, time 8012ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 48.812/51.892/55.919/2.407 ms
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ping google.com
PING google.com (77.42.253.57) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.57): icmp_seq=1 ttl=60 time=49.0 ms
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.57): icmp_seq=2 ttl=60 time=51.5 ms
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.57): icmp_seq=3 ttl=60 time=51.9 ms
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.57): icmp_seq=4 ttl=60 time=54.8 ms
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.57): icmp_seq=5 ttl=60 time=48.7 ms
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.57): icmp_seq=6 ttl=60 time=52.8 ms
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.57): icmp_seq=7 ttl=60 time=55.8 ms
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.57): icmp_seq=8 ttl=60 time=50.0 ms
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.57): icmp_seq=9 ttl=60 time=51.8 ms
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.57): icmp_seq=10 ttl=60 time=55.1 ms
64 bytes from google.com (77.42.253.57): icmp_seq=11 ttl=60 time=50.6 ms
^C
--- google.com ping statistics ---
11 packets transmitted, 11 received, 0% packet loss, time 10015ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 48.756/52.054/55.883/2.329 ms
===================================================================

Sorry for the long post, but i had to.
You see, it's not that i had high ping all the time and G.dmt lowered them, no they were not stable at all and now they are, check 8.8.8.8 results!!!!

that was on ogero, i hope i'll get even better results on my wise connection when i get bck to home!

Last edited by m_zeid (June 29 2014)

omar_killer

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

I followed the rules on page 57 on how to force adsl1,but whenever I finish writing saveall my dsl connection stops and could only be fixed by reseting the modem.
Modem: technicolor tg582n
Sodetel

m_zeid

Member

Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

I followed the rules on page 57 on how to force adsl1,but whenever I finish writing saveall my dsl connection stops and could only be fixed by reseting the modem.
Modem: technicolor tg582n
Sodetel

can't you do this using the web gui?

ILIA_93

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

I followed the rules on page 57 on how to force adsl1,but whenever I finish writing saveall my dsl connection stops and could only be fixed by reseting the modem.
Modem: technicolor tg582n
Sodetel

Try this command:
xdsl config adslmultimode=adsl
saveall

If it didn't do anything, try adding the xdsl debug multimode config=t1.413issue2+g992.1_annex_a command before you saveall

I hope this works for you...

omar_killer

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

I followed the rules on page 57 on how to force adsl1,but whenever I finish writing saveall my dsl connection stops and could only be fixed by reseting the modem.
Modem: technicolor tg582n
Sodetel

can't you do this using the web gui?

No I don't think so.

I followed the rules on page 57 on how to force adsl1,but whenever I finish writing saveall my dsl connection stops and could only be fixed by reseting the modem.
Modem: technicolor tg582n
Sodetel

Try this command:
xdsl config adslmultimode=adsl
saveall

If it didn't do anything, try adding the xdsl debug multimode config=t1.413issue2+g992.1_annex_a command before you saveall

I hope this works for you...

Nope it's still not working,giving me "concentrator not found" error in the gui.

ILIA_93

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

Nope it's still not working,giving me "concentrator not found" error in the gui.

So the router is syncing! "Concentrator not found" is an Internet connectivity problem, and not a DSL problem. At least that is with my thomson router, but it is almost the same as your technicolor.
In the  "Home > Broadband Connection" page, check and see if both DSL connection and Internet are disconnected or is it just the internet :/

Johnaudi

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

This thread is not for resolving issues, I'd advise you if you could make a new thread about the problem so people can go there for future purposes knowing how to solve it in its correct position.

Stay in topic of the new Internet prices and speeds, as well as how reliable they are.

Johnaudi

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

Question: On some plans I see 6M - 60GB.
When they say 6M, does that mean 6-8M? Would the speed change from 6M to 8M or is the speed in between it?

GreenM

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

Cyberia updated their ADSL plans on their website:
http://www.thisiscyberia.com/services/c … asp?menu=2

Aly

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

All private ISPs have posted a variety of balanced and well priced DSL plans except my current ISP WISE :@
Have a look at their gold plated plans:
http://wise.net.lb/web/adsl.jsp?id=2

HotCreep

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

Sodetel replied to my email with this :
"Dear sir,

Sorry for the late reply.
The new plans will be revealed and submitted during the month of July.
You need to recharge your usual prepaid card in order to change to the new plans during july.

Thank you and regards,"
can't get any vaguer than that imo

HotCreep

Member

Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

I hate this. It is such a tease not to know what your ISP's plans will be, and knowing that you will be losing a month because your ISP is run by slackers.

gamer4life

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

Question: On some plans I see 6M - 60GB.
When they say 6M, does that mean 6-8M? Would the speed change from 6M to 8M or is the speed in between it?

No, it means that the maximum speed you'll get is 6M because you can notice that they have another plan for the 8M with different quota and different price.

user

Member

Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

Sodetel replied to my email with this :
"Dear sir,

Sorry for the late reply.
The new plans will be revealed and submitted during the month of July.
You need to recharge your usual prepaid card in order to change to the new plans during july.

Thank you and regards,"
can't get any vaguer than that imo

It simply means give us your money and don't change ISP. It says nothing about what they will do. That is if they even are planning to do anything.

Ahmad Toutounji

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

does cyberia unlimited plans(1,2,4 mbps) have fup?

Last edited by Ahmad Toutounji (June 30 2014)

andrew55

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

Cyberia basically copied IDM with its plans and pricing...

kfc

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Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

Cyberia basically copied IDM with its plans and pricing...

IDM and cyberia have the same management.

andrew55

Member

Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

Owned by the same group?

Johnaudi

Member

Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

On the Cyberia website.

andrew55

Member

Re: Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

News to me. Thanks for the info!