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Any users with ping above 200ms? please tell us your ISP name.
Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon
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My email to IDM, awaiting their responseHey,
I'm not gonna do the download test, all is fine getting a stable 100kb/sec
My issue is with the latency, considering I play online on my PS3, and i need the lowest latency possible. ( 192.168.0.1 is my wireless router, if i connect the speedtouch directly for the test , i'll get the same results with a difference of 10ms give or take... But cant disconnect my wireless at the moment )
About a month ago, everything was perfect, used to have a stable 150 ms on playing with European servers...
But out of the blue it jumped to >250ms and it's unplayable up to today.
Do you have a certain explanation why this happened ?
Is there a way i can get the lowest latency possible ?
Many thanks and best regards,
Attached was ping&Trace tests they have on their website.
Basically you ping local and foreigner servers
And then trace route some website.
Latency was 250 ~ 400 ms
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It seems for the most part, and according to what ive been seeing IMEWE is doing fine
Yet some ISP's seem to be having MAJOR issues with latency
@Chup and Dirol: Can you confirm from an ogero subscriber from the same central if he/she is experiancing the same issues of latency (of course if possible)
If there is something wrong with IMEWE then it should apply to everyone connected to that specific central (this is just a theory i may be completely wrong in everything i said)
That being said , logic would say if something was wrong with IMEWE then everyone would/should have issues in Latency
... This weekend i was also suffering immense lag spikes - i cured the problem by simply disconnecting and then connecting with a different IP belonging to a different IP range (the alleged best IP range for me at least is the 94.etc ,,, it was having problems so it seems but other ip ranges, 168, 77,178 to name a few were doing fine)
I highly suspect that it has to do with something along those lines.
For terms of IMEWE latency wise i believe this is more or less the best we could hope for, yet many households are still on low bandwidth (128,256,512kbit) connections, including myself, and with no specific answers as to why from Ogero - you call and they simply say "Lines are too weak; no upgrade" - am i under the impression that they do not wish to do anything for such areas ? Perhaps. I have in mind sticking with Lebanese Internet till around summer - then on ill look into local cable connections and satellite solutions along with me DSL line (ill primaruly use it to download updates, large needed documents and what not) since a 256kbit connection is just very frustrating to deal with
I can live with a 24,000LL DSL fee and a 30$ish cable fee (yet it would be nice if i could just have them as one package :( )
Anyway, sorry for the lecture, as per topic:
Few things to note:
Im on an educational institute connection
Right about at this time a lot of people would be downloading and abusing the connection
In the morning its closer to 2mbit and I have the latency bug with the speed test app.
i will try getting my freind who has access to a private IT PC to do a speedtest for me
Yet some ISP's seem to be having MAJOR issues with latency
@Chup and Dirol: Can you confirm from an ogero subscriber from the same central if he/she is experiancing the same issues of latency (of course if possible)
If there is something wrong with IMEWE then it should apply to everyone connected to that specific central (this is just a theory i may be completely wrong in everything i said)
That being said , logic would say if something was wrong with IMEWE then everyone would/should have issues in Latency
... This weekend i was also suffering immense lag spikes - i cured the problem by simply disconnecting and then connecting with a different IP belonging to a different IP range (the alleged best IP range for me at least is the 94.etc ,,, it was having problems so it seems but other ip ranges, 168, 77,178 to name a few were doing fine)
I highly suspect that it has to do with something along those lines.
For terms of IMEWE latency wise i believe this is more or less the best we could hope for, yet many households are still on low bandwidth (128,256,512kbit) connections, including myself, and with no specific answers as to why from Ogero - you call and they simply say "Lines are too weak; no upgrade" - am i under the impression that they do not wish to do anything for such areas ? Perhaps. I have in mind sticking with Lebanese Internet till around summer - then on ill look into local cable connections and satellite solutions along with me DSL line (ill primaruly use it to download updates, large needed documents and what not) since a 256kbit connection is just very frustrating to deal with
I can live with a 24,000LL DSL fee and a 30$ish cable fee (yet it would be nice if i could just have them as one package :( )
Anyway, sorry for the lecture, as per topic:
Few things to note:
Im on an educational institute connection
Right about at this time a lot of people would be downloading and abusing the connection
In the morning its closer to 2mbit and I have the latency bug with the speed test app.
i will try getting my freind who has access to a private IT PC to do a speedtest for me
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My Plan is 2 Mbps Sodetel:
@Chup: actually i contacted Sodetel and they said 3xx to 4xx is normal saying because it is a shared account. LOL!. Please tell me what will IDM support tell you.....
@The-MMMs: i'm really not sure what the real reason behind that but i don't feel comfortable with it as there maybe something suspicious, like fraud at ISPs or Ogero, maybe?!
Why some IPs have high latencies and why others not?! why since the launch of the Fiber-Optic we started to have low latencies almost all of the day but once my ISP started their new plans my ping deteriorated?! yes i know it can be the upgrade process but it can also be something else which is illegal.
Why Pre-Fiber-Optic i used to have high pings That Almost Matches the high pings with Fiber-Optic connections?!
Is it logical?!
As it is said in another thread, maybe i'm/some subscribers are sometimes being placed on satellite connections as well...
Tell me: if your ping is like 400ms, does your download necessarily be MUCH below 2 Mbps (250KB/s),
like 90KB/s?
I don't think so: because after reconnecting and getting low ping of around 11xms, tested the download for same source and the download just became 220KB/s which was 90KB/s previously. (will try multiple IPs with high pings for conclusive proofs...)
Don't those excite suspicion?!
@Chup: actually i contacted Sodetel and they said 3xx to 4xx is normal saying because it is a shared account. LOL!. Please tell me what will IDM support tell you.....
@The-MMMs: i'm really not sure what the real reason behind that but i don't feel comfortable with it as there maybe something suspicious, like fraud at ISPs or Ogero, maybe?!
Why some IPs have high latencies and why others not?! why since the launch of the Fiber-Optic we started to have low latencies almost all of the day but once my ISP started their new plans my ping deteriorated?! yes i know it can be the upgrade process but it can also be something else which is illegal.
Why Pre-Fiber-Optic i used to have high pings That Almost Matches the high pings with Fiber-Optic connections?!
Is it logical?!
As it is said in another thread, maybe i'm/some subscribers are sometimes being placed on satellite connections as well...
Tell me: if your ping is like 400ms, does your download necessarily be MUCH below 2 Mbps (250KB/s),
like 90KB/s?
I don't think so: because after reconnecting and getting low ping of around 11xms, tested the download for same source and the download just became 220KB/s which was 90KB/s previously. (will try multiple IPs with high pings for conclusive proofs...)
Don't those excite suspicion?!
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How about a website that has been showing performance assessment results for Lebanese ISPs since March 2011?
It recently got a major makeover - www.ahsandsl.com
Samer, I am spreading the word because people need to know such a free public service exists and is 100% independent.
It recently got a major makeover - www.ahsandsl.com
Samer, I am spreading the word because people need to know such a free public service exists and is 100% independent.
I can assure you these results have changed in January.recon1025 wroteHow about a website that has been showing performance assessment results for Lebanese ISPs since March 2011?
It recently got a major makeover - www.ahsandsl.com
And this isn't very helpful, considering they're being tested at One CO.
For example, i'm with IDM and getting 250ms Latency ... How is that best ISP for gaming ?
Thank you for your assurance and input. I invite you to visit the methodology section which specifically states this is measuring a specific service (1Mbps) and does not make any claims about other services. Additionally, check out the past month results. You may also want to take a look at the technical graphs that are updated on a daily basis.Chup wroteI can assure you these results have changed in January.recon1025 wroteHow about a website that has been showing performance assessment results for Lebanese ISPs since March 2011?
It recently got a major makeover - www.ahsandsl.com
And this isn't very helpful, considering they're being tested at One CO.
For example, i'm with IDM and getting 250ms Latency ... How is that best ISP for gaming ?
As for your 250 ms latency it could be caused by a myriad of factors. In summary, there are certainly several factors that come into play which is why latency by itself isnt the only factor that we measure. Telephone output power, signal to noise ratio and several other factors are also measured to ensure precision and consistency. Without a system that is exclusively measuring all this criteria 24/7 365 and ensuring no external factors are causing interference and/or influence one cannot jump to conclusions. Even with such a system, measuring from multiple C/Os would be ideal without a doubt, but how affordable is that? Perhaps Mr. Sihnaoui would provide us with "test" accounts at every C/O :) For now this will have to suffice and no thank you's wanted...
To recap, the website is an unbiased free public service that discloses information as seen by machines setup on the customer's end. One month one ISP may excel were another fails - again, I strongly encourage you to "read" the methodology section.
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That's all i needed :)Even with such a system, measuring from multiple C/Os would be ideal without a doubt, but how affordable is that? Perhaps Mr. Sihnaoui would provide us with "test" accounts at every C/O :) For now this will have to suffice and no thank you's wanted...
On a side note , i sent IDM the " Ping & Trace " test they have Here, 2 weeks ago :
They replied ( -.- ) :> Hey,
> I'm not gonna do the download test, all is fine getting a stable 100kb/sec
> My issue is with the latency, considering I play online on my PS3, and
> i need the lowest latency possible. ( 192.168.0.1 is my wireless
> router, if i connect the speedtouch directly for the test , i'll get
> the same results with a difference of 10ms give or take... But cant
> disconnect my wireless at the moment )
> About a month ago, everything was perfect, used to have a stable 150
> ms on playing with European servers...
> But out of the blue it jumped to >250ms and it's unplayable up to today.
> Do you have a certain explanation why this happened ?
> Is there a way i can get the lowest latency possible ?
> Many thanks and best regards,
.....i.....know....Dear Sir,
The test shows that you are connected to a router,
Please unplug the router and connect the modem directly to your pc and re do the test and advise back.
Thanks for your patience
IDM Support
So I did connect it directly as they want, it was a pain but i did , got these results :
Pinging 192.168.1.254 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.254:
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 16ms, Average = 1ms
Pinging 194.126.26.66 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 194.126.26.66: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=125
Reply from 194.126.26.66: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=125
Reply from 194.126.26.66: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=125
Reply from 194.126.26.66: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=125
Reply from 194.126.26.66: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=125
Reply from 194.126.26.66: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=125
Reply from 194.126.26.66: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=125
Reply from 194.126.26.66: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=125
Reply from 194.126.26.66: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=125
Reply from 194.126.26.66: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=125
Reply from 194.126.26.66: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=125
Reply from 194.126.26.66: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=125
Reply from 194.126.26.66: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=125
Reply from 194.126.26.66: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=125
Reply from 194.126.26.66: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=125
Ping statistics for 194.126.26.66:
Packets: Sent = 15, Received = 15, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 40ms, Maximum = 47ms, Average = 43ms
Tracing route to 194.126.26.66 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 2 ms 99 ms 99 ms speedtouch.lan [192.168.1.254]
2 40 ms 38 ms 42 ms 77.42.129.55
3 42 ms 46 ms 50 ms 213.175.184.203
4 41 ms 47 ms 46 ms 194.126.26.66
Trace complete.
Pinging 174.142.61.237 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 174.142.61.237: bytes=32 time=251ms TTL=109
Reply from 174.142.61.237: bytes=32 time=247ms TTL=109
Reply from 174.142.61.237: bytes=32 time=250ms TTL=109
Reply from 174.142.61.237: bytes=32 time=253ms TTL=109
Reply from 174.142.61.237: bytes=32 time=249ms TTL=109
Reply from 174.142.61.237: bytes=32 time=252ms TTL=109
Reply from 174.142.61.237: bytes=32 time=249ms TTL=109
Reply from 174.142.61.237: bytes=32 time=248ms TTL=109
Reply from 174.142.61.237: bytes=32 time=253ms TTL=109
Reply from 174.142.61.237: bytes=32 time=249ms TTL=109
Reply from 174.142.61.237: bytes=32 time=252ms TTL=109
Reply from 174.142.61.237: bytes=32 time=249ms TTL=109
Reply from 174.142.61.237: bytes=32 time=252ms TTL=109
Reply from 174.142.61.237: bytes=32 time=251ms TTL=109
Reply from 174.142.61.237: bytes=32 time=259ms TTL=109
Ping statistics for 174.142.61.237:
Packets: Sent = 15, Received = 15, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 247ms, Maximum = 259ms, Average = 250ms
Tracing route to ip-174-142-61-237.static.privatedns.com [174.142.61.237]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 102 ms 93 ms 99 ms speedtouch.lan [192.168.1.254]
2 46 ms 40 ms 45 ms 77.42.129.55
3 41 ms 40 ms 45 ms 213.175.184.194
4 41 ms 46 ms 45 ms 212.36.211.40
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 129 ms 127 ms 127 ms 77.94.34.89.satgate.net [77.94.34.89]
7 128 ms 133 ms 129 ms 77.94.34.65.satgate.net [77.94.34.65]
8 134 ms 128 ms 129 ms 62.128.113.45
9 144 ms 139 ms 139 ms r10-ae0-304-Waw-Lim-PL.linxtelecom.net [212.47.201.78]
10 176 ms 161 ms 161 ms r9-ae3-0-Fra-Anct-DE.linxtelecom.net [212.47.201.148]
11 161 ms 161 ms 160 ms 195.16.160.101
12 159 ms 162 ms 161 ms vlan80.csw3.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.154.190]
13 160 ms 161 ms 161 ms ae-82-82.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.140.25]
14 169 ms 180 ms 175 ms ae-23-23.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.148.193]
15 238 ms 242 ms 243 ms ae-42-42.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.137.70]
16 246 ms 247 ms 253 ms ae-71-71.csw2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.134.70]
17 244 ms 241 ms 252 ms ae-72-72.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.148.37]
18 247 ms 246 ms 247 ms ae-5-5.car1.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.69.141.5]
19 * 271 ms 269 ms te6-2.cl-core05.level3.mtl.iweb.com [4.59.176.10]
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 248 ms 255 ms 254 ms ip-174-142-61-237.static.privatedns.com [174.142.61.237]
Trace complete.Chup look at the 6th hop satgate.net that definitely a satellite internet provider, that's why your ping is higher than before, in addition expect a reply from IDM telling you "Sir we have reviewed your ping and trace route results and we didnt find any problem, 250 ms is a normal latency".
although this isn't the most rational solution - your best bet is to just switch ISP
Ask around in your area what other people have and what kind of latency they get
It's very random, i know people that have IDM and they have NO issues whatsoever with latency, and i have some other people that had good latency and then it sort of went bad like in your case
Im guessing your best bet is Ogero in this case. The only reason why im with this sack of ... company is the fact they have the lowest latency, my issues with them is merely the slow speed (area related issue)
Ask around in your area what other people have and what kind of latency they get
It's very random, i know people that have IDM and they have NO issues whatsoever with latency, and i have some other people that had good latency and then it sort of went bad like in your case
Im guessing your best bet is Ogero in this case. The only reason why im with this sack of ... company is the fact they have the lowest latency, my issues with them is merely the slow speed (area related issue)
Fill out the ISP switching form , getting unlimited calls from them asking how come , and why i wanna change it , spend 2-3 weeks with no internet....although this isn't the most rational solution - your best bet is to just switch ISP
Not gonna go through with it in such an unprofessional manner,
I'm just gonna be an @ss and keep asking and spamming them about the sudden recent change for a perfect latency to a dreadful one ..
Considering you already have DSL - you already have a "kashif 5at" or whatever that is - that's the thing that takes most time, i doubt you will have to wait that long honestly.
As for the reason why your switching, say the truth, say that your internet does not provide my greatest interest, be very frank.
As for the reason why your switching, say the truth, say that your internet does not provide my greatest interest, be very frank.
What service speed do you have from IDM? What C/O are you connected to?Chup wroteFill out the ISP switching form , getting unlimited calls from them asking how come , and why i wanna change it , spend 2-3 weeks with no internet....although this isn't the most rational solution - your best bet is to just switch ISP
Not gonna go through with it in such an unprofessional manner,
I'm just gonna be an @ss and keep asking and spamming them about the sudden recent change for a perfect latency to a dreadful one ..
2MB , CO : DekwanehWhat service speed do you have from IDM? What C/O are you connected to?
GDS or Ogero as your DSP? One last thing if you have a speedtouch modem please access its web interface and go into Broadband connection > DSL Connection and copy / paste what the "Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]:" values showChup wrote2MB , CO : DekwanehWhat service speed do you have from IDM? What C/O are you connected to?
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central tripoli and al mina are the only place in tripoli got the improvement. Baddawi bahsas and others still not!!Monkey D. Luffy wroteKalamoun, North Lebanon
Central: Bahsas!!!
you have no right to put on a sad face! :(
I think you're one of the few who have such a connection home
And your workplace's connection is pretty close to your home's.
I think you're one of the few who have such a connection home
And your workplace's connection is pretty close to your home's.
Come on Kareem :) you have a good connection at your home, i will use your sad face for my 256 K connection :(
Actually I have almost finished tweaking the adsl connection.
88ms is the lowest latency on speedtest I could get. I will create a tutorial soon for how to do it assuming you have a reasonable attenuation and SNR.
88ms is the lowest latency on speedtest I could get. I will create a tutorial soon for how to do it assuming you have a reasonable attenuation and SNR.
we share the same misfortune ... still 256kbit yet still downloading 1.45GB files and playing online like a BAAAWSamkahal wroteCome on Kareem :) you have a good connection at your home, i will use your sad face for my 256 K connection :(