Yeah whatever will cost the problem in your phone it wont be 150$ lol
Amhaz (Stars Communications) shop
Yeah but its a BIG risk! You may either save 150$ or lose 450$ if the problem is huge, so the device would become useless.m.sabra wroteStars prices are way cheaper than the prices of other shops and official distributors, in example: Galaxy tab costs 599$ @ CTC (official distributor of Samsung) and 450$ @ Amhaz , that's a 150$ difference, well i don't want the warranty if it's gonna cost me an additional 150$.
People think of warranty that if you took a good care of your phone, you wont need it. But, many problem can be as a result of manufacturing defects. You might not know whats the problem from the fist moment, it might appear later after using your phone/device for a period of time.
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I hesitated a bit before writing this, but seeing the topic's name is "Amhaz (star communication) shop" then this is not out of topic.
Amhaz does not pay taxes, as previously said, he is the official "tehrib" shop.
supporting his shop is supporting piracy, stealing and everything that this country stands for.
Amhaz is also "mad3oum" but his "da3m" is political and he is in fact hurting our industry, ie: there was a story going around that Amhaz forced the sony-ericsson distributors to close in lebanon as he was actually competing with them! In any country in the world, the distributor should be the one providing the retailers, but guess what, this is not a country.
What kind of business are you trying to support?
The extra money on products is the one enforced by the product distributors who take licenses from official manufacturers, this is how things work in every "civilized" country and this is why all distributors are finding it hard to enter the lebanese market with such "mad3oumin" and "above the law" shops.
So if you give a +1 or are very happy you got your phone for 50$ less, please think again...
Amhaz does not pay taxes, as previously said, he is the official "tehrib" shop.
supporting his shop is supporting piracy, stealing and everything that this country stands for.
Amhaz is also "mad3oum" but his "da3m" is political and he is in fact hurting our industry, ie: there was a story going around that Amhaz forced the sony-ericsson distributors to close in lebanon as he was actually competing with them! In any country in the world, the distributor should be the one providing the retailers, but guess what, this is not a country.
What kind of business are you trying to support?
The extra money on products is the one enforced by the product distributors who take licenses from official manufacturers, this is how things work in every "civilized" country and this is why all distributors are finding it hard to enter the lebanese market with such "mad3oumin" and "above the law" shops.
So if you give a +1 or are very happy you got your phone for 50$ less, please think again...
I agree with you but the problem is that many companies are runed by stealers in Lebanon and the difference between Amhaz and HTC for exemple can reach up to 250$ for a phone.
Plus CEPP (dunno if they are still SE dealers) used to bring new phones with 2 to 3 months later than Europe while Amhaz bring them at the same time or even sometimes before Europe!!
If it was only 50$ difference I think nobody here will ever think to buy from Amhaz.
As for ''gemrok'' taxes we all know that their colonels and generals (amn el a3m) take the money for them and not for the Lebanese government
Plus CEPP (dunno if they are still SE dealers) used to bring new phones with 2 to 3 months later than Europe while Amhaz bring them at the same time or even sometimes before Europe!!
If it was only 50$ difference I think nobody here will ever think to buy from Amhaz.
As for ''gemrok'' taxes we all know that their colonels and generals (amn el a3m) take the money for them and not for the Lebanese government
hey just remember that customers didn't search for official retailer they search good quality and cheap prices so i buy all my phones from amhaz and never had a problem with any device,in fact i have never repaired a phone that i have bought from amhaz, and i will not wait 2 or 3 months to get my phone for a higher price while it's available now for a cheaper price i am not concerned how or from where he get his devices or if he pay taxes or "min de3mo" as long that i get phone for good price and with a good quality.
and if you say that this is piracy supporting it's not my job to ask every shop about his products and to ask for papers to prove that those products are legal.
in other country no one can put a pirated CD in his shop and it's impossible for a phone to pass the "gemrok" and the security if it's not for official retailer so when we will be like that ?
and if you say that this is piracy supporting it's not my job to ask every shop about his products and to ask for papers to prove that those products are legal.
in other country no one can put a pirated CD in his shop and it's impossible for a phone to pass the "gemrok" and the security if it's not for official retailer so when we will be like that ?
When I bought my htc Hero in 2010 it cost me 700$ from Micro Age... talk about stealing when I could find for 480$ a Nexus 1 "tehrib" :/
Since this happened to me I guess I wouldn't care less from where I buy my phone as long as it is cheap and good quality
Since this happened to me I guess I wouldn't care less from where I buy my phone as long as it is cheap and good quality
If you keep buying tehrib, you will never get official device at a cheap price.
This is the same as Software Piracy. If the country and its people only use pirated material (software or hardware) all the manufacturers will drop the support and actually this is why we are such a third world country (no real laws applied).
You are searching for a good and cheap product and the laws do not protect the rights of the providers so you take advantage of that.
In a more specific way, let's say you have a friend in the US who got you the latest phone at 530$ and it is priced here at 1000$ and at Amhaz @ 560$. If you go and buy it at 530$ from the US, it is the same as buying it at 1000$ from here, you are paying the company the right to sell in the US or in Lebanon. If you buy it from Amhaz or whatever at 560$ you are making sure that Company X that manufacturers this device will never open in Lebanon and you will never get this phone at 530$ some day in the future.
I know it is not our job to make sure all this happen, but we can have a little bit of social awareness and not be so public about advertising such Companies that are in my opinion ruining our economy.
This is the same as Software Piracy. If the country and its people only use pirated material (software or hardware) all the manufacturers will drop the support and actually this is why we are such a third world country (no real laws applied).
You are searching for a good and cheap product and the laws do not protect the rights of the providers so you take advantage of that.
In a more specific way, let's say you have a friend in the US who got you the latest phone at 530$ and it is priced here at 1000$ and at Amhaz @ 560$. If you go and buy it at 530$ from the US, it is the same as buying it at 1000$ from here, you are paying the company the right to sell in the US or in Lebanon. If you buy it from Amhaz or whatever at 560$ you are making sure that Company X that manufacturers this device will never open in Lebanon and you will never get this phone at 530$ some day in the future.
I know it is not our job to make sure all this happen, but we can have a little bit of social awareness and not be so public about advertising such Companies that are in my opinion ruining our economy.
Again Zeraw we are with you in your logic BUT the problem is mainly the Lebanese mafias who claim themself as businessman and want to win at least 150$ on every single phone they sell.
If they didn't steal from us on the first place a shop like amhaz wouldn't even exist, how can you explain that a 500$ phone is sold 1000$ here (iphone4)??
So we need HTC,SE and Motorola themself to open their own showroom with the real international prices in Lebanon if we don't want to be stealed.
I don't see any difference between some Lebanese businessman and the guy who steal a bank
If they didn't steal from us on the first place a shop like amhaz wouldn't even exist, how can you explain that a 500$ phone is sold 1000$ here (iphone4)??
So we need HTC,SE and Motorola themself to open their own showroom with the real international prices in Lebanon if we don't want to be stealed.
I don't see any difference between some Lebanese businessman and the guy who steal a bank
since there is no law in lebanon that make piracy or hacking illegal you can't stop softwares piracy and due to unreasonable high prices of official distributors in comparison of "tehrib" phone and the "falaten at gamerik" so all the illegal phone can enter lebanon so easy. the only solution is that Alfa and MTC provide legal locked phones for cheap prices. i have an Alfa line and i am not planning to change it so i don't care if my phone is locked and maybe they can offer 2 or 1 years plan so you can get your phone free or almost free. it's the only solution if official distributors don't afford lower prices and if "tehrib" stays .
Of course there is.since there is no law in lebanon that make piracy or hacking illegal
Lebanon signed both the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works and the Universal Copyright Convention according to this. You need to do some research before posting something that you present as a fact.
Even though wikipedia is 95% correct in most cases, the first rule you learn at university is to never refer to it.
We're well accustomed to the Lebanese way of signing on something and doing technically nothing when it comes to the implementation anyway.
We're well accustomed to the Lebanese way of signing on something and doing technically nothing when it comes to the implementation anyway.
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@Samer sorry for the incorrect info that i have posted, but i don't remember (maybe there is some case that i don't know about it for accuracy) any time that someone was accused for hacking or piracy and you can see that the market is fulled with pirated softwares and movies
and my idea was why we don't have sim locked phones from MTC and Alfa for cheap prices ?
and my idea was why we don't have sim locked phones from MTC and Alfa for cheap prices ?
Because the cellphone dealers need direct access to the providers and in our case the providers need authorization from the government for every single move.m.sabra wrote@Samer sorry for the incorrect info that i have posted, but i don't remember (maybe there is some case that i don't know about it for accuracy) any time that someone was accused for hacking or piracy and you can see that the market is fulled with pirated softwares and movies
and my idea was why we don't have sim locked phones from MTC and Alfa for cheap prices ?
Plus these 2 providers have only a 1 year contract that they renew every year so :/ZeRaW wroteBecause the cellphone dealers need direct access to the providers and in our case the providers need authorization from the government for every single move.m.sabra wrote@Samer sorry for the incorrect info that i have posted, but i don't remember (maybe there is some case that i don't know about it for accuracy) any time that someone was accused for hacking or piracy and you can see that the market is fulled with pirated softwares and movies
and my idea was why we don't have sim locked phones from MTC and Alfa for cheap prices ?
Exemple: I talked to a Samsung salesman yesterday and asked about the SGS2...he said not before September!!!
Amhaz should get it this week ;)
Amhaz should get it this week ;)
So what? You get it before the distributor gets it, without warranty? without after sale service?vegetaleb wroteExemple: I talked to a Samsung salesman yesterday and asked about the SGS2...he said not before September!!!
Amhaz should get it this week ;)
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yes an i don't have a problem with that
Actual defaut of fabrication are obvious the first minutes you use the phone, so just try it in the shop before paying.
Software problems are not a problem anymore because with Android you can just flah the rom again and again (old nokia and SE proprietary phones are history now)
Just check screen,speaker,camera and try calling...if everything is good then mabrouk
Software problems are not a problem anymore because with Android you can just flah the rom again and again (old nokia and SE proprietary phones are history now)
Just check screen,speaker,camera and try calling...if everything is good then mabrouk
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Definitely NOT! Never heard of duty cycles? The electronic components might have limited duty cycle, so they will fail after a period of time! u cannot know at the very beginning.vegetaleb wroteActual defaut of fabrication are obvious the first minutes you use the phone, so just try it in the shop before paying.
Software problems are not a problem anymore because with Android you can just flah the rom again and again (old nokia and SE proprietary phones are history now)
Just check screen,speaker,camera and try calling...if everything is good then mabrouk
Sensors, touch screens, scroll wheels....All these components might have a defect, thus they will fail before expected.