Broadband in Lebanon - Latest Updates

belal · 2010-04-13T10:06:44+00:00

السعة ستزيد 100 ضعف بعد تمديد الألياف البصريّة الجديدة تخيّل سعة الإنترنت في متناولك أكبر بـ100 ضعف السعة الموجودة حالياً، وبسرعة لا تقارن مع الواقع القائم....

Raficoo

Hey Guys... how's your Advanced Developing lag-less Internet connections going....oh wait.. lol

chosen2k

yep.

but you don't need that connection, you download faster then you write on disk /s

our government does not have this kind of connection haha

al_jamal

Raficoo wroteHey Guys... how's your Advanced Developing lag-less Internet connections going....oh wait.. lol
http://www.speedtest.net/result/892344732.png
http://www.pingtest.net/result/21029774.png

:-|

POLAND?

babum

Raficoo wroteHey Guys... how's your Advanced Developing lag-less Internet connections going....oh wait.. lol
http://www.speedtest.net/result/892344732.png
http://www.pingtest.net/result/21029774.png

there is no need to brag about your perfectly fine connection.

Raficoo

babum wrote
Raficoo wroteHey Guys... how's your Advanced Developing lag-less Internet connections going....oh wait.. lol
http://www.speedtest.net/result/892344732.png
http://www.pingtest.net/result/21029774.png
there is no need to brag about your perfectly fine connection.

hehe sorry bout that.... after-having-slow-crappy-limited-internet-to-super-speed psychological effect :P

MegaCool

Nemesis-301 wroteman, I dont understand why everyone is amazed/wants gb/s internet connections, its useless, lets say you have a 1gb/s connection which means you can download 100mb/s but can your harddrives copy at a 100mb/s speed? ofcourse they cant my computer is a dual core and I have windows 7 installed so I know that my pc copies files at a 10mb/s speed if I got a 1gb/s connection my download speed wouldnt be more then 10mb/s.... I personally think that any internet speed more then 400mb/s is just useless, because even the fastest corei7 copies at a 35mb/s also not to mention if the serever can even give you that fast download speed...

Dude if you read my post carefully you'll notice that I wasn't talking about how badly I need a Gbit connection, you know we barely have 1mb here, I said that when we'll have some ok speed Internet in the year 2020 most countries would jump ship to like Gbit speeds, that's 10 years from now, even though Gbit speed is Freakin gigantic we'll have faaar way better technology than what we own , i7s will be nothing but p4s now, so writing and reading speeds should be enormous by that time..

babum

Now there is another thing, we don't want a 1 gbit/s connection to one computer, but some of us might have to use more than one computer or wifi capable cellphone, so this 1gbit/s would be divided by all these users also companies need this kind of connections to get their jobs done quickly.

lets make a small example, as Nemesis said that the fastest pc could only use 35MB/s connection download, then lets say that with a 1gbit/s we could connect at max speed two PC, or if we used slower computer capped at 10MB/s we could connect 10 pc's at max speed. Thats when 1gbit/s connection is indeed useful.

mmk92

Now lets acheive the 35MB/s download speed w ba3den ta3a ne7ke

Raficoo

mmk92 wroteNow lets acheive the 35MB/s download speed w ba3den ta3a ne7ke

well actually when i conducted the Above speed tests, there is a chance my default 100-mbit ethernet card in my lappy Bottlenecked it :P

now if i installed a 1-gbit Ethernet card + sum SSDs. connect to the internet with the wire that is about 20 meters away from the Server room(that provides internet for the whole institution, the Fans Are LOUD!!!) and i bet i can get some 100s of Megabits :P

what's nice is that my friend's been working there for over 30+ years, and am close with him so whenever i wanna download something, i just call him and go to his office with my lappy, connect it to the network and i Speeeeed along the line xD

let's see a university/academy in Lebanon achieve this lol

Fernand

downloading at 100mbits/s is boring I fear, it loses its taste unless it's a double-layer blu-ray content
I tried a 2-3 mbits/s connection for some time and I feel that 20 mbits/s can bring the best experience when it comes to downloading normal stuff (i.e. a DVD, a big piece of software, FLAC albums etc)
what do you think?

WizaRd

I talk of experience... having super fast internet speed will make you lazy.

You will stop looking for that mp3 of yours that you were so sure you've downloaded in the past because you know you can just download it in a second or two again, anytime you want.

Your hard drive will be full of useless stuff that you download just because you could. Not to mention that with the Lebanese mentality you'll be spending more time thinking what to download instead of making use of your time in front of the PC.

You can run 5-6 torrents downloading at full speed all the time? Cool, now let's see you making some use out of the bytes you've burned on your hard drive.

Speed is overrated, you really don't need more than 10Mbit/s and that covers any entertainment content available nowadays. Speeds of 20/30/50/100 Mbit/s are not intended for home users but many people have them in Europe/USA just because they can.

I'd be happy with a decent 5Mbit/s connection in Lebanon with say 40-50GB per month limit at a reasonable price of 20-30$. This is something more realistic, in my opinion of course.

babum

Flyingwizard wroteSpeed is overrated, you really don't need more than 10Mbit/s and that covers any entertainment content available nowadays. Speeds of 20/30/50/100 Mbit/s are not intended for home users but many people have them in Europe/USA just because they can.

I dont think we should stop developing and advancing just because something is fine, look what happened to us.
Sure 1 mbps was fine 6 or 7 years ago, but no one thought ahead and said "hey lets bring more bandwidth because speed are going to increase and users are going to ask for more" instead look how now we complain because of slow internet, low quota, crappy ping...

babum

babum wrote
Flyingwizard wroteSpeed is overrated, you really don't need more than 10Mbit/s and that covers any entertainment content available nowadays. Speeds of 20/30/50/100 Mbit/s are not intended for home users but many people have them in Europe/USA just because they can.
I dont think we should stop developing and advancing just because something is fine, look what happened to us.
Sure 1 mbps was fine 6 or 7 years ago, but no one thought ahead and said "hey lets bring more bandwidth because speed are going to increase and users are going to ask for more" instead look now how we complain because of slow internet, low quota, crappy ping...

Raficoo

Flyingwizard wroteI talk of experience... having super fast internet speed will make you lazy.

You will stop looking for that mp3 of yours that you were so sure you've downloaded in the past because you know you can just download it in a second or two again, anytime you want.

Your hard drive will be full of useless stuff that you download just because you could. Not to mention that with the Lebanese mentality you'll be spending more time thinking what to download instead of making use of your time in front of the PC.

You can run 5-6 torrents downloading at full speed all the time? Cool, now let's see you making some use out of the bytes you've burned on your hard drive.

Speed is overrated, you really don't need more than 10Mbit/s and that covers any entertainment content available nowadays. Speeds of 20/30/50/100 Mbit/s are not intended for home users but many people have them in Europe/USA just because they can.

I'd be happy with a decent 5Mbit/s connection in Lebanon with say 40-50GB per month limit at a reasonable price of 20-30$. This is something more realistic, in my opinion of course.

Boring? the internet is BIG and continues to Expand.. quality of Applications will increase(even items/new flash features on websites/etc... consume more Bandwidth).. Videos at blu-ray quality that requires a hell lot of time to download(well.. for the least fortunate atleast lol).. n the new common features of Video-conference n Cloud-gaming(which will require good bandwidth even at 800X600 video)

now don't get me wrong.. I'd be happy with a 3-5Mbit Unlimited Low Latency Reasonably-priced connection(which sadly i don't think will be coming to Leb soon :( ) but as the internet develops we must keep developing a Way to catch up with the new big(by size) content

hehe and about the Hard Drive thing... you can buy an External, HardDrives are being upsized in the years.. one day you'll probably be able to buy a 10TB drive with a price of a 500GB one xD

anyways don't feel like i'm too happy.. i'm going back to Leb in about 2 weeks.. better to use what i can before i leave :P

Jad

Something kills me about Lebanon's Internet connexion: I just came from Burkina Faso, one of the poorest countries in the world; there, they have 2 Mbps unlimited ADSL connexions since 2005...

elchebib

Check this out:

http://globalgeeknews.com/2010/07/23/fcc-changes-broadband-definition-to-4mbps-up-and-1mbps-down/

Apparently, the ISPs in Lebanon are not providing Broadband.

nuclearcat

Apparently FCC is for USA.
But correct, in US terms it is not broadband.

rolf

Lebanon is not providing broadband by any definition.

Flyingwizard wroteSpeed is overrated, you really don't need more than 10Mbit/s and that covers any entertainment content available nowadays. Speeds of 20/30/50/100 Mbit/s are not intended for home users but many people have them in Europe/USA just because they can.

No, it's not a matter of showing off or having them just "because they can". These kinds of speeds maybe be overrated now, but by the time they are widely available, they wont be. It's about freedom, which itself pushes innovation, I guess.

mmk92

well faster speeds of >50mbit/s is realy a luxury for a home user, but having access to those speeds can help businesses acheive tasks at a faster rate, reduce costs thus making more profit, that helps lebanon overall in its growth.

nuclearcat

business who depend on internet doesn't use broaband, they buy corporate connection with SLA.

Only in Lebanon and few other countries "businesses" buying end-user accounts and then start nagging "you are ruining my business, this outage for 1 hour unacceptable, i will sue you!".

Btw as result of this providers have low income from corporate customers, since managers in consumer companies doesn't understand difference between corporate and end-user connection. Because this practice long-standing, infrastructure for reliable (but expensive) accounts is almost disappeared, so most of ISP's unable now to provide such kind of connection. Noone will do such infrastructure for few users...
This is not easy to understand, and difficult to explain also, but since noone ready to pay for reliability, reliability will extinct and will degrade even for regular users.

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