LifeEngineer wrote
AVOlio wroteSo after a first day use, here's what I can say about the TCL C2US.
Overall the TV looks great, it's appealing with its silver bezels and attractions the attention as if it was a high end TV.
The picture quality is also great! Very great for its price.
Playing 4K content on YouTube, the picture is breathtaking.
However, for some reason, the TV skips frames so BADLY when playing 4k content @60Hz that it's totally unwatchable. I don't know why that would be, maybe refresh rate issue?
I didn't get HDR to work, and I don't see any HDR option in the menu! While playing 4k HDR videos on YouTube, I don't get the HDR next to the video title which says that the video is currently playing in HDR. I only get the 4k icon.
Perhaps it's a gimmick? The TV doesn't have HDR?
I haven't tried Netflix yet to see if HDR works, I don't have a Netflix, maybe someonen can share their account so that I can test it!? It would be appreciated.


Android os is great! Most of the times it's smooth but the TV froze a few times and restarted. But I guess even on Sony TVs I've heard people saying the same.
Google play store is there, but it's not full, you won't find a the apps you normally find on phones.
But you can install apks off of a flash drive or something, make sure you download a file explorer like ES in order to view the apks on the drive.
I installed Terrarium, and there you go, free Netflix like experience.

So I guess, my final review will be, if you're looking for a budget tv with a GREAT picture quality, this will do, but if you want to have a TV with better screen specifications like refresh rate etc.. Better go with a Sony.
Interesting.
I think it won't be great for gaming then if it's the case! That's concerning.
Scratch that.
I tested the TV again with 4k 60fps.
On YouTube, its the same frame skipping / stuttering to the point that the picture freezes but the audio continues.
So i thought it would be an Internet issue.

I downloaded the 4k 60fps video onto a USB and tried playing it from the USB.
The experience improved a bit, but there were still moments where the picture would freeze and audio goes on.

I copied the video from the USB into the internal storage of the TV.
Tried playing it, and the 4k 60fps video played perfectly.

I'm guessing it's OS related?

What do you guys think?
AVOlio wrote
LifeEngineer wrote
AVOlio wroteSo after a first day use, here's what I can say about the TCL C2US.
Overall the TV looks great, it's appealing with its silver bezels and attractions the attention as if it was a high end TV.
The picture quality is also great! Very great for its price.
Playing 4K content on YouTube, the picture is breathtaking.
However, for some reason, the TV skips frames so BADLY when playing 4k content @60Hz that it's totally unwatchable. I don't know why that would be, maybe refresh rate issue?
I didn't get HDR to work, and I don't see any HDR option in the menu! While playing 4k HDR videos on YouTube, I don't get the HDR next to the video title which says that the video is currently playing in HDR. I only get the 4k icon.
Perhaps it's a gimmick? The TV doesn't have HDR?
I haven't tried Netflix yet to see if HDR works, I don't have a Netflix, maybe someonen can share their account so that I can test it!? It would be appreciated.


Android os is great! Most of the times it's smooth but the TV froze a few times and restarted. But I guess even on Sony TVs I've heard people saying the same.
Google play store is there, but it's not full, you won't find a the apps you normally find on phones.
But you can install apks off of a flash drive or something, make sure you download a file explorer like ES in order to view the apks on the drive.
I installed Terrarium, and there you go, free Netflix like experience.

So I guess, my final review will be, if you're looking for a budget tv with a GREAT picture quality, this will do, but if you want to have a TV with better screen specifications like refresh rate etc.. Better go with a Sony.
Interesting.
I think it won't be great for gaming then if it's the case! That's concerning.
Scratch that.
I tested the TV again with 4k 60fps.
On YouTube, its the same frame skipping / stuttering to the point that the picture freezes but the audio continues.
So i thought it would be an Internet issue.

I downloaded the 4k 60fps video onto a USB and tried playing it from the USB.
The experience improved a bit, but there were still moments where the picture would freeze and audio goes on.

I copied the video from the USB into the internal storage of the TV.
Tried playing it, and the 4k 60fps video played perfectly.

I'm guessing it's OS related?

What do you guys think?

have you tried some 60fps 4k gaming on it? will be mainly playing fortnite and some sony titles.
can we expect price drops on the sony x930e 4 months from now?
djunited wrotecan we expect price drops on the sony x930e 4 months from now?
Nope , since Sony will not replace it this year due to tis high performance comparing to 2018 models too. It is the only tv compared to other brands that crosses 1000nits of real scene hdr btightness which is a core requirement for HDR " at least 1000nits" . The highest Samsung Qled 2018 model Q9Fn did not cross the 1000nits.



See how samsung is deceiving people in max hdr real scene peak brightness in their latest high end qled Q9fn - ~ 3500 usd for the 65 inch on Amazon

https://youtu.be/2oxPD7HRVf8

https://youtu.be/JvgQi2Gbqec
its final then. im definitely getting the sone x930e. thanks guys! much appreciated.
does anyone know id theyr having a sale on ramadan on the sony. last sale included a free 40" sony tv but i remember them saying till may 20 so that would be over.
This TV is definitely really impressive. It's kicking butts left and right. It's just the price that is putting me off. I'll keep waiting for now. I prefer to keep my FHD TV, that works just fine, instead of getting a low-end/sub-par 4K TV, that I will hate and regret getting.
Go big or Go home is my thing and since spending that much now isn't an option, I'll wait.
LifeEngineer wroteThis TV is definitely really impressive. It's kicking butts left and right. It's just the price that is putting me off. I'll keep waiting for now. I prefer to keep my FHD TV, that works just fine, instead of getting a low-end/sub-par 4K TV, that I will hate and regret getting.
Go big or Go home is my thing and since spending that much now isn't an option, I'll wait.
Nice call unless you are aiming for higher sizes ( more than 55 inches) then definitly you should be looking for 4k tvs.
djunited wroteits final then. im definitely getting the sone x930e. thanks guys! much appreciated.

Congratulation perfect choice you will be very satisfied from the real hdr peak brightness , deep blacks / contrast , and local dimming :) , when you get it just tell to tell the best image calibration I have been using for :

HDR Gaming (4K Console / PC)
SDR Gaming (4K Console /PC)
Movies Watching

Been testing a lot with the TV the input lag on 1440p @ 120hz ~ 12ms which is awesome.
Tech Guru wrote
djunited wroteits final then. im definitely getting the sone x930e. thanks guys! much appreciated.

Congratulation perfect choice you will be very satisfied from the real hdr peak brightness , deep blacks / contrast , and local dimming :) , when you get it just tell to tell the best image calibration I have been using for :

HDR Gaming (4K Console / PC)
SDR Gaming (4K Console /PC)
Movies Watching

Been testing a lot with the TV the input lag on 1440p @ 120hz ~ 12ms which is awesome.

i'll defenitly ask you about the beat settings for this screen. i just ordered the sony x930e from abed tahan today and im very excited. guy at khoury home tried to sell me the samsung q7f praising it over the sony in everything but i sisnt fall for that at this point i was more knowledgeable than him and knew what i wanted. i think i made the best choice. i had them remove the free 40" sony tv priced at 379usd and paid about 500$ difference to get the sony n9200 5.1 surround system to go with the x930e :D it was meant to be, they had only one of each new in box and not even in there own branch!
Tech Guru wrote
djunited wroteits final then. im definitely getting the sone x930e. thanks guys! much appreciated.

Congratulation perfect choice you will be very satisfied from the real hdr peak brightness , deep blacks / contrast , and local dimming :) , when you get it just tell to tell the best image calibration I have been using for :

HDR Gaming (4K Console / PC)
SDR Gaming (4K Console /PC)
Movies Watching

Been testing a lot with the TV the input lag on 1440p @ 120hz ~ 12ms which is awesome.
do you play fortnite by any chance? i cant wait to see how it would look on the ps4 pro hdr and x930e.
You bought this amazing tv and you're excited to play fortnite?
I'm disappointed bro!

Congratulations!
If you have a pc that supports HDR, I will soon receive a couple of 4k Bluray HDR movie files (around 70Gb each) from a friend, maybe you would want to test those out.
AVOlio wroteYou bought this amazing tv and you're excited to play fortnite?
I'm disappointed bro!

Congratulations!
If you have a pc that supports HDR, I will soon receive a couple of 4k Bluray HDR movie files (around 70Gb each) from a friend, maybe you would want to test those out.

haha i know man but this game kills! and it will look its best with this tv. i'll defenitely get god ofwar to tryas well. as for the 4k movies im waiting for fiber optics to be available in ashrafieh/badaro to be able to stream in 4k. will a 4mb/s unlimited from ogero be able to stream in 4k? just want to see from where i can obtain 4k hdr material.
djunited wrote
AVOlio wroteYou bought this amazing tv and you're excited to play fortnite?
I'm disappointed bro!

Congratulations!
If you have a pc that supports HDR, I will soon receive a couple of 4k Bluray HDR movie files (around 70Gb each) from a friend, maybe you would want to test those out.

haha i know man but this game kills! and it will look its best with this tv. i'll defenitely get god ofwar to tryas well. as for the 4k movies im waiting for fiber optics to be available in ashrafieh/badaro to be able to stream in 4k. will a 4mb/s unlimited from ogero be able to stream in 4k? just want to see from where i can obtain 4k hdr material.

No mate a 4Mpbs / Unlimited plan from OGero will enable you to steam on HD (720p) , For example I use open speed ~ 23 Mbps for a stable NetFlix stream of native 4k HDR Movies. Away 600m from Ogero CO. I use Ogero too


If you have the PS4 Pro , I have some posts on Leb Geeks like GOD of War. HDR in games plays a role in the HDR 10 meta data the developer uses , some games the " Wowed " me on the Sony X930e using 4k HDR - Usually 4K on the PS4 Pro is 2160p Checkerboard which is a smart way to give a native 2160p pixel count without the usage of upscaling " I will not dive into the technical way of this method". Some Games run a 1440p and upscaled to 2160p some uses 1800p checkerboard etc.. but the best is 2160p checkerboard.

List of Games that showcase the real power of the Sony X930e HDR processing from local dimming , max HDR real scene brightness , deep blacks , and wide color gamut coverage of Rec 2020 and DCI P3

GOD of War (PS4 Pro)
Detroid Become Human (PS4 Pro)
Injustice 2 (PS4 Pro)
BF1 (HDR 10 on the PS4 Pro / Dolby Vision of the PC , which I found better HDR implementation in Dolby Vision dues to the Usage of Dynamic Meta Data)
AC Origins (PC)
Far Cry 5 (PC)
Mass Effect Andromeda (PC)
Resident Evil 5 (PC)
CoD WW2 (PC)
Starwars BattleFront 2 (PC)
Final Fantasy 15 (PS4 Pro / PC)


Notes:

Only BF1 on PC has Dolby Vision Support , all remaining are HDR 10

Resolution Mode if the game support two modes in the PS4 Pro like performance / resolution - I always chose resolution.

The Latest Windows 10 update (Major Big Update - Redstone 4 , improved HDR a lot in the PC) You can now do 1440p 120hz Full RGB with HDR on the Sony x930e.
Tech Guru wrote
djunited wrote
AVOlio wroteYou bought this amazing tv and you're excited to play fortnite?
I'm disappointed bro!

Congratulations!
If you have a pc that supports HDR, I will soon receive a couple of 4k Bluray HDR movie files (around 70Gb each) from a friend, maybe you would want to test those out.

haha i know man but this game kills! and it will look its best with this tv. i'll defenitely get god ofwar to tryas well. as for the 4k movies im waiting for fiber optics to be available in ashrafieh/badaro to be able to stream in 4k. will a 4mb/s unlimited from ogero be able to stream in 4k? just want to see from where i can obtain 4k hdr material.

No mate a 4Mpbs / Unlimited plan from OGero will enable you to steam on HD (720p) , For example I use open speed ~ 23 Mbps for a stable NetFlix stream of native 4k HDR Movies. Away 600m from Ogero CO. I use Ogero too


If you have the PS4 Pro , I have some posts on Leb Geeks like GOD of War. HDR in games plays a role in the HDR 10 meta data the developer uses , some games the " Wowed " me on the Sony X930e using 4k HDR - Usually 4K on the PS4 Pro is 2160p Checkerboard which is a smart way to give a native 2160p pixel count without the usage of upscaling " I will not dive into the technical way of this method". Some Games run a 1440p and upscaled to 2160p some uses 1800p checkerboard etc.. but the best is 2160p checkerboard.

List of Games that showcase the real power of the Sony X930e HDR processing from local dimming , max HDR real scene brightness , deep blacks , and wide color gamut coverage of Rec 2020 and DCI P3

GOD of War (PS4 Pro)
Detroid Become Human (PS4 Pro)
Injustice 2 (PS4 Pro)
BF1 (HDR 10 on the PS4 Pro / Dolby Vision of the PC , which I found better HDR implementation in Dolby Vision dues to the Usage of Dynamic Meta Data)
AC Origins (PC)
Far Cry 5 (PC)
Mass Effect Andromeda (PC)
Resident Evil 5 (PC)
CoD WW2 (PC)
Starwars BattleFront 2 (PC)
Final Fantasy 15 (PS4 Pro / PC)


Notes:

Only BF1 on PC has Dolby Vision Support , all remaining are HDR 10

Resolution Mode if the game support two modes in the PS4 Pro like performance / resolution - I always chose resolution.

The Latest Windows 10 update (Major Big Update - Redstone 4 , improved HDR a lot in the PC) You can now do 1440p 120hz Full RGB with HDR on the Sony x930e.

that is a nice list of games to try. are you using stndard or movie mode on your tv? Is 200gb bandwidth enouhh for 4k netflix consumption with open speed? I highly doubt that will be enough for my houshold with 5 people. Im trying to see what plan to choose and wether they will be able to install fiber. I cant see my consumption on ogero website is that down for you too? I live in the soufi area but the line is related to ogero badaro not achrafieh so i dont know if they will install.
djunited wrote
Tech Guru wrote
djunited wrote

haha i know man but this game kills! and it will look its best with this tv. i'll defenitely get god ofwar to tryas well. as for the 4k movies im waiting for fiber optics to be available in ashrafieh/badaro to be able to stream in 4k. will a 4mb/s unlimited from ogero be able to stream in 4k? just want to see from where i can obtain 4k hdr material.

No mate a 4Mpbs / Unlimited plan from OGero will enable you to steam on HD (720p) , For example I use open speed ~ 23 Mbps for a stable NetFlix stream of native 4k HDR Movies. Away 600m from Ogero CO. I use Ogero too


If you have the PS4 Pro , I have some posts on Leb Geeks like GOD of War. HDR in games plays a role in the HDR 10 meta data the developer uses , some games the " Wowed " me on the Sony X930e using 4k HDR - Usually 4K on the PS4 Pro is 2160p Checkerboard which is a smart way to give a native 2160p pixel count without the usage of upscaling " I will not dive into the technical way of this method". Some Games run a 1440p and upscaled to 2160p some uses 1800p checkerboard etc.. but the best is 2160p checkerboard.

List of Games that showcase the real power of the Sony X930e HDR processing from local dimming , max HDR real scene brightness , deep blacks , and wide color gamut coverage of Rec 2020 and DCI P3

GOD of War (PS4 Pro)
Detroid Become Human (PS4 Pro)
Injustice 2 (PS4 Pro)
BF1 (HDR 10 on the PS4 Pro / Dolby Vision of the PC , which I found better HDR implementation in Dolby Vision dues to the Usage of Dynamic Meta Data)
AC Origins (PC)
Far Cry 5 (PC)
Mass Effect Andromeda (PC)
Resident Evil 5 (PC)
CoD WW2 (PC)
Starwars BattleFront 2 (PC)
Final Fantasy 15 (PS4 Pro / PC)


Notes:

Only BF1 on PC has Dolby Vision Support , all remaining are HDR 10

Resolution Mode if the game support two modes in the PS4 Pro like performance / resolution - I always chose resolution.

The Latest Windows 10 update (Major Big Update - Redstone 4 , improved HDR a lot in the PC) You can now do 1440p 120hz Full RGB with HDR on the Sony x930e.

that is a nice list of games to try. are you using stndard or movie mode on your tv? Is 200gb bandwidth enouhh for 4k netflix consumption with open speed? I highly doubt that will be enough for my houshold with 5 people. Im trying to see what plan to choose and wether they will be able to install fiber. I cant see my consumption on ogero website is that down for you too? I live in the soufi area but the line is related to ogero badaro not achrafieh so i dont know if they will install.
200gb data cap.sadly not enough for streaming in 4k I was trying only to experience 4k hdr on a capable set , I applied for FTTH the 1Tera plan since they installed some FTTC cabinets in Rass Beirut.

I use my own image calibrations but Cinema pro option is perfect too for watching 4k HDR movies.
Did you have to go to ogero to apply? You chose the 240000lbp plan right? Yeah i think that would be the best option for me too. Im assuming the modem needs to be changed and all regular dsl cables too or will those work fine since they are up to 100mb/s? When dis you apply and when did they say they will install?

Finally what dis you look for qhen they turned on your tv to inspect?
djunited wroteDid you have to go to ogero to apply? You chose the 240000lbp plan right? Yeah i think that would be the best option for me too. Im assuming the modem needs to be changed and all regular dsl cables too or will those work fine since they are up to 100mb/s? When dis you apply and when did they say they will install?

Finally what dis you look for qhen they turned on your tv to inspect?
You'll need an ONT (Optical Network Terminal) if you have a fiber cable going into your home. All your existing network infrastructure can stay the same if your wired Ethernet backbone and wireless setup handle the speed you get from fiber. No DSL or any phone line is involved.
yasamoka wrote
djunited wroteDid you have to go to ogero to apply? You chose the 240000lbp plan right? Yeah i think that would be the best option for me too. Im assuming the modem needs to be changed and all regular dsl cables too or will those work fine since they are up to 100mb/s? When dis you apply and when did they say they will install?

Finally what dis you look for qhen they turned on your tv to inspect?
You'll need an ONT (Optical Network Terminal) if you have a fiber cable going into your home. All your existing network infrastructure can stay the same if your wired Ethernet backbone and wireless setup handle the speed you get from fiber. No DSL or any phone line is involved.

Regular ethernet wires support 100mb/s right? Should be able to handle 50mb/s. Sorry i habe the electrician coming and i want to make sure im installing futureproof lines.
The sony a1 oled will be on display at abed tahan in 2 days! Im afraid to go check it out and have to pay 1.5k difference lol. Worth it over the x930?