elie955ai wroteI checked Pcandparts and they have the i5 6500 for 208$ excl. VAT wich is a mere increase of 3$ over the i5 6400. They even have the i7 6700k for 379$ excl VAT wich is expensive but considering that it is priced at 359£ on amazon UK wich equals to 552$, it is NOT SO expensive.
Fuck, they didn't get the i5 6600K. And they still didn't restock coolers.

Out of context but it looks like they're getting NZXT products.
The 6600K are out of stock worldwide
208$ for the 6500, I must say ''I told you so''

Geez! If someone want to buy the 4460 they don't have a H97 board anymore!! Do you think they will bring back some?
Die_Kapitan wrote
elie955ai wroteI checked Pcandparts and they have the i5 6500 for 208$ excl. VAT wich is a mere increase of 3$ over the i5 6400. They even have the i7 6700k for 379$ excl VAT wich is expensive but considering that it is priced at 359£ on amazon UK wich equals to 552$, it is NOT SO expensive.
Fuck, they didn't get the i5 6600K. And they still didn't restock coolers.

Out of context but it looks like they're getting NZXT products.
wow those pc cases are epic
vegetaleb wroteThe 6600K are out of stock worldwide
208$ for the 6500, I must say ''I told you so''

Geez! If someone want to buy the 4460 they don't have a H97 board anymore!! Do you think they will bring back some?
Dude, it's in stock at most retailers.
aliessayli2 wrotewow those pc cases are epic
Yeah, NZXT are one of the best case manufacturers, too bad they didn't stock the Noctis 450.
Damn pcandparts!
They only have a one module of 8gb DDR4, is it good to use one DIMM on a board like Gaming M3?
vegetaleb wroteDamn pcandparts!
They only have a one module of 8gb DDR4, is it good to use one DIMM on a board like Gaming M3?
Single-channel memory doesn't really affect gaming performance, so go with it. You can also go with the ASUS Z170-P as it supports DDR3 memory.
I was willing to put my old system on sale and so switch to a skylake system but the lack of DDR4 2X4GB option and the lack of Asus H170 are a problem, I prefer to wait another couple of days/ weeks so we have a broader choice of motherboards and DDR4.
I called Macrotronics and asked about skylake and co, they said by the end of next week they will have them, so perhaps in the 1st week of November we will have all the skylake related products available and in all shops.
I am gonna ask Microcityweb too...
vegetaleb wroteI was willing to put my old system on sale and so switch to a skylake system but the lack of DDR4 2X4GB option and the lack of Asus H170 are a problem, I prefer to wait another couple of days/ weeks so we have a broader choice of motherboards and DDR4.
I called Macrotronics and asked about skylake and co, they said by the end of next week they will have them, so perhaps in the 1st week of November we will have all the skylake related products available and in all shops.
I am gonna ask Microcityweb too...
DDR4 has very marginal gains over DDR3, DDR4 shouldn't really he a selling point for Skylake.

>All the Skylake related products available
Except for the 6600K and ASRock motherboards (and Mini-ITX boards).
I have a Thermaltake MSI case, the normal ATX board can be installed though my actual mini ATX board is already taking a good place, I wonder if everything will have a place inside
I received an email from microcity about skylake.
It looks like they only have the i7 6700 at 408$, no sign of 6500.
I am getting confused guys! Some websites are showing just 1 to 2 fps difference between a 4460 and a 6600 while the one I posted before showed a difference depending on the game between 2 to 15fps wbetween the 4460 and 6500, some guys told me that my gtx 970 is the limiter and not the cpu, I OC my already OC MSI Gaming yesterday and won a minimum fps of 8 but not the max fps(vsync off).
So should I sell my system and get a new 4460 one and save 50-60$ or take a new 6500 system? If there was a used 4690k + mobo + rams I would have take it but I can't find
@vegetaleb

GTX 970 is the limiter "maybe" with a proper OC you will limit that factor -

It depends on your purpose -what is you current CPU - , I think i7 6700 / i7 4790 will be a future proof more than an I5 , since more upcoming games will start utilizing an i7 haswell/skylake and more round around better investment.

Dude: Invest in a new system that has an i7 6700 + news rams and an z107 and in the summer upgrade your Graphic Card.
It's easier said than done! I am actually without a job and my budget is limited, an i5 6500+h170 is the best I can do.
I have the i5 750 , some bench websites are saying I win +61% performance with the 6500 (about +50% with the 4460), I love DSR thingy as 4K TVs are still pricey here, I would love to play FC 4 in DSR 4k @60fps but I can just reach 25-30fps right now with the i5 750 + GTX 970.
I wonder if the i5 4460 or 6500 can give me an extra 10-15fps...
Mate I have an Msi 970 Gaming + i7 4790 + 16GB Ram and I installed Far Cry on an SSD (Crucial MX 100 - 512 GB) @ 2160p it is not playable , at 1440p yes (55-60 with dips to 40s in intense sections) with all ultra/MSAA.

I invested in a cheap 4k TV Recently -



It has a decent 4K up-scaler and a marginally low input lag <40ms

Playing on it with DSR 1440p upscaled with its hardware to 4K is awesome.
You will not benefit from more than 60hz on any TV linked to a desktop/console now since the input is limited to 60hz on 1080p and 30hz for 4k (natively). And be aware of the marketing techniques companies use for the inflated hz vs real panal hz

For Samsung, it’s Motion Rate, for Sony it's MotionFlow, LG’s is TruMotion or Motion Clarity Index, Vizio is Effective Refresh Rate, and Panasonic is Backlight Scan.

http://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/fake-refresh-rates-samsung-clear-motion-rate-vs-sony-motionflow-vs-lg-trumotion?uxtv=ec5c
No bro you got it all wrong
-HDMI 2.0 can natively support 4k@60hz and probably 120, the Vizio has 1 HDMI port 2.0 be aware that some TV 4k are still using HDMI 1.4 in Lebanon.
-Effective rate for Hz is the real deal and not the fake one samsung and sony use
vegetaleb wroteI received an email from microcity about skylake.
It looks like they only have the i7 6700 at 408$, no sign of 6500.
I am getting confused guys! Some websites are showing just 1 to 2 fps difference between a 4460 and a 6600 while the one I posted before showed a difference depending on the game between 2 to 15fps wbetween the 4460 and 6500, some guys told me that my gtx 970 is the limiter and not the cpu, I OC my already OC MSI Gaming yesterday and won a minimum fps of 8 but not the max fps(vsync off).
So should I sell my system and get a new 4460 one and save 50-60$ or take a new 6500 system? If there was a used 4690k + mobo + rams I would have take it but I can't find
Skylake is a very small performance increase over Haswell, that's why it doesn't perform a lot better. Unless you play ARMA and Total War, the CPU ISN'T an important factor in a gaming PC, get the i5 4460 and save the $60, that 5% IPC increase and 0.2GHz increase in clock speed won't magically give you 15FPS in any game, the site you saw the benchmark on is surely just wanting to make Skylake look like a huge, NetBurst to Core-like increase in performance which it's not, it's merely a Sandy to Ivy Bridge-like performance increase.
Tech Guru wrote@vegetaleb

GTX 970 is the limiter "maybe" with a proper OC you will limit that factor -

It depends on your purpose -what is you current CPU - , I think i7 6700 / i7 4790 will be a future proof more than an I5 , since more upcoming games will start utilizing an i7 haswell/skylake and more round around better investment.

Dude: Invest in a new system that has an i7 6700 + news rams and an z107 and in the summer upgrade your Graphic Card.
Quad cores (with no SMT) will still be the norm for another 3 years or so, by then Intel would have released Icelake which is rumored to increase core count in mainstream CPUs, so the $130 or so that he'll pay is totally unneeded, also why would he get a locked CPU with a Z170 board? An H170 will do more than enough for anything he'll be doing.
vegetaleb wroteNo bro you got it all wrong
-HDMI 2.0 can natively support 4k@60hz and probably 120, the Vizio has 1 HDMI port 2.0 be aware that some TV 4k are still using HDMI 1.4 in Lebanon.
-Effective rate for Hz is the real deal and not the fake one samsung and sony use
If I were you I'd search for a 4K TV with DisplayPort outputs, Nvidia cards are having problems with HDMI 2.0, they're outputting at 4:2:0 instead of 4:4:4. It's kind of an HDMI 1.4 hack via 4:2:0, so it's 'almost' HDMI 2.0 and 'almost' 4K 60Hz.
vegetaleb wroteI received an email from microcity about skylake.
It looks like they only have the i7 6700 at 408$, no sign of 6500.
I am getting confused guys! Some websites are showing just 1 to 2 fps difference between a 4460 and a 6600 while the one I posted before showed a difference depending on the game between 2 to 15fps wbetween the 4460 and 6500, some guys told me that my gtx 970 is the limiter and not the cpu, I OC my already OC MSI Gaming yesterday and won a minimum fps of 8 but not the max fps(vsync off).
So should I sell my system and get a new 4460 one and save 50-60$ or take a new 6500 system? If there was a used 4690k + mobo + rams I would have take it but I can't find
how are you saving 60$ with the 4460 system ? pcandparts only has Z97A mobos for the 1150, while there are cheaper mobos for the 1151