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vegetaleb wrote200$ in the US, in Lebanon GTX 660 and 760 were priced 250$ + VAT ;)
Exactly my point now we can import a great VGA for less than 300$ delivered to my doorstep, and it is a VGA that can deliver 60-70% the performance of GTX 980 .. I am really impressed
mmk92
Graphics card. VGA refers to either a port or a resolution.
Die_Kapitan
The GTX 960 is barely equal to an R9 280 in terms of performance, but the R9 280 edges out thanks to higher memory bandwidth, bigger memory bus and in some games more memory.
Stygmata
Die_Kapitan wroteThe GTX 960 is barely equal to an R9 280 in terms of performance, but the R9 280 edges out thanks to higher memory bandwidth, bigger memory bus and in some games more memory.
According to reviews and benchmarks they are on par
MrClass
Ramnesia
Yeah I've been following that since Sunday. What Nvidia did is not professional at all, they should have checked the specs or maybe they kept quite for another reason, no one will know. Nonetheless the gtx970 is an amazing card still.
It is not easy to say the card has 4GB Vram or 3.5GB Vram, very confusing.
vegetaleb
It's a 4GB Vram but there is 500mb that are blocked somehow, hopefully a FW fix will do it
haidcar
the problem is on the hardware level, thats why nvidia update the specs of the 970 and reduced the ROPs and L2$. However I doubt anyone will bottleneck a 970 at 1080, 3.5GB is still good.
Stygmata
3.5 GB but with 208 bitrate instead of 256
vegetaleb
Playing in DSR 1440p to 4K without any problem even on high demanding games like Far Cry 4.
DDR4 are coming for motherboards, as windows share RAM as Vram it will be all good, GTX 960 are ''only'' 2GB btw
tech-guru
@Haidar the 970 has two memory setups a stack of VRAM of 3.5 GB and another of 0.5 GB = 4 GB ; A game can uses the 0.5 GB when it pushes farther the 3.5 GB stack ; memory allocations depends on a " secret sauce" of heuristic algorithms that Nvidia implements. Therefore , we cannot say the 970 GTX has a 3.5 GB of VRAM
vegetaleb
Tech Guru wrote@Haidar the 970 has two memory setups a stack of VRAM of 3.5 GB and another of 0.5 GB = 4 GB ; A game can uses the 0.5 GB when it pushes farther the 3.5 GB stack ; memory allocations depends on a " secret sauce" of heuristic algorithms that Nvidia implements. Therefore , we cannot say the 970 GTX has a 3.5 GB of VRAM
+1
And I am confident Nvidia will find a fix to make these 0.5gb better used, NV seems to be working on a driver update that allocates unimportant stuff to the 0.5GB portion, thus freeing up the 3.5GB segment a bit more
vegetaleb
Wow!
The Inno3D GTX 980 in Lebanon is literally 350$ more expensive than in Europe!
Btw the Euro/$ is now 1.14$
And the Lebanese business complain about not selling eh?
AvoK95
vegetaleb wroteWow!
The Inno3D GTX 980 in Lebanon is literally 350$ more expensive than in Europe!
Btw the Euro/$ is now 1.14$
And the Lebanese business complain about not selling eh?
My wholesale price of an Inno3D GTX970 is $680.
Some dealers who have a name for themselves in the country can get really really greedy.
vegetaleb
I remember the Inno3D official dealer to be somewhere in Zouk, he was an old moth***er who barely can write his name (I got a verbal fight with him once), his son was a bit better than him and was behind the idea of having Inno3D brand. When I see these prices I won't be surprised to see it's the same guy who bring this brand.
Also Inno3D is a second class brand that doesn't have the professionalism of MSI and Asus
AvoK95
Back in the Pentium 4 days, Inno3D was a beast brand. Only because they lasted the longest ning of the other brands which were all running under one of those horrible Chinese power supplies with CPUs that had a 100% 95W CPU power consumption (Due to the lack of Intel SST) That's why they had such a bid name. In my experience, they run very hot, and they are very very loud with average build quality. I remember people coming in with their 8800GTs that were branded Inno3D and I used to run games on them, so that I could warm myself upstairs where my work bench was at my old job lol
Ramnesia
Nvidia took back it's promise on a driver that tune gtx970 memory allocation.
Do you think they should be sued for false advertising? I think totally.
ch-b
So its only 3.5 gb? Like seriously they have been getting us excited for nothing?
vegetaleb
It's 3.5 + 0.5gb, the 0.5 is slower than the 3.5 portion but the total is really 4gb
The real impact is on 4K and specially if running sli but if you play 1080p with everything on Ultra ALL games are extremely fast, Evil Within was like 25fps on 1080p with my old gtx 650ti boost with everything on high, now it's 75fps (TV max vsync) on 1080p and Ultra.
Farcry 4 with DSR 1440p and everything on Ultra is running at 58fps but my CPU is an old i5 750, if I upgrade to latest i5 I will gain +10-15fps
Die_Kapitan