nuclearcat wroteToday got unconfirmed yet news about price drop for ISPs.
While Ogero services is 10x increase in quota, for ISP they dropped price barely 58%. But even that will let ISPs survive... probably.
The important question is "Will we get a more stable service and speed especially during afternoon and evening from private ISPs when those changes happen?".
hussam wrote
nuclearcat wroteToday got unconfirmed yet news about price drop for ISPs.
While Ogero services is 10x increase in quota, for ISP they dropped price barely 58%. But even that will let ISPs survive... probably.
The important question is "Will we get a more stable service and speed especially during afternoon and evening from private ISPs when those changes happen?".
We will get worse service since the infrastructure is the same, and the only changing factor is the speed and the capacity.
@ballad they wouldn't make those huge upgrades if they didn't have a plan ; )
That depends. How much of their backbone are Ogero distributing now?
If it is well over 50%, then yes, this will hurt everyone.
hussam wrote
nuclearcat wroteToday got unconfirmed yet news about price drop for ISPs.
While Ogero services is 10x increase in quota, for ISP they dropped price barely 58%. But even that will let ISPs survive... probably.
The important question is "Will we get a more stable service and speed especially during afternoon and evening from private ISPs when those changes happen?".
"Depends" on each case.
Sure thing is a fiber backbone supports way more bandwidth than old rotten copper wires... I expect significant improvements in speed and latency.
Fernand wroteSure thing is a fiber backbone supports way more bandwidth than old rotten copper wires... I expect significant improvements in speed and latency.
Fiber backbone between COs, yes, however that connection between you and the CO is still that old rotten copper wire, so I don't see how we(as users) can expect an improvement in latency.
nuclearcat wroteWhat is scary, that they announced prices for end-users over Ogero, but nothing about private ISP (some said private ISP decide on their own). BUT. While they slashed quotas 80+%, they didnt change price for private ISP at all yet and no promises even.
Basically if they will not announce prices - they are kicking out private ISPs out of business. I'm highly suspecting that private sector will hold very serious strike, if prices for them wont be dropped until July.
how is that? the E1 price dropped, so the cost of internet will drop and ISPs can lower their prices too
Raficoo wrote
Fernand wroteSure thing is a fiber backbone supports way more bandwidth than old rotten copper wires... I expect significant improvements in speed and latency.
Fiber backbone between COs, yes, however that connection between you and the CO is still that old rotten copper wire, so I don't see how we(as users) can expect an improvement in latency.
at least we will get ~10-15ms drop in latency, not good but enough and better than nothing!
m_zeid wrote
nuclearcat wroteWhat is scary, that they announced prices for end-users over Ogero, but nothing about private ISP (some said private ISP decide on their own). BUT. While they slashed quotas 80+%, they didnt change price for private ISP at all yet and no promises even.
Basically if they will not announce prices - they are kicking out private ISPs out of business. I'm highly suspecting that private sector will hold very serious strike, if prices for them wont be dropped until July.
how is that? the E1 price dropped, so the cost of internet will drop and ISPs can lower their prices too
Now yes, before they didn't drop E1. They dropped them much later than they announced DSL drop.
Does that mean private ISPs including satellite/cable provider will upgrade their services too?
I don't think private ISP will die regardless of what happens. We are geeks(as the site name suggests) we understand latency and bandwith and quota terms and we would change connections to get a 100 ms drop in latency. Many people do not (I dare say the majority do not). As long as they can upload their facebook selfie and their lunch to instagram they will stay with their ISP, they will not bother waiting and going through the change period.

I work in a web development company, if I had a nickle every time a client called saying their website/server is down and it turned out they did not have internet on the computer they were testing on I'd be very rich... Yes people are that clueless.
I contacted TerraNet today and they said they are working on pricing and service plans that will exceed what Ogero will be offering. She also said people who cannot upgrade to 2Mbit or more because of their line limitations will be getting a special offer.
OxyMoron wroteI contacted TerraNet today and they said they are working on pricing and service plans that will exceed what Ogero will be offering.
Exceed in terms of quality, or quantity?
Raficoo wrote
OxyMoron wroteI contacted TerraNet today and they said they are working on pricing and service plans that will exceed what Ogero will be offering.
Exceed in terms of quality, or quantity?
Better price plans than Ogero, she kept stressing that they will outdo Ogero. I don't think that's possible but we'll see.
OxyMoron wroteI contacted TerraNet today and they said they are working on pricing and service plans that will exceed what Ogero will be offering. She also said people who cannot upgrade to 2Mbit or more because of their line limitations will be getting a special offer.
I really really really hope she's serious about the last part, since i live in Bshamoun where infrastructure is needed and where max DSL speed is 1Mb, so if we're screwed in terms of speed then a special offer is very much needed.
When are the new DSL plans going to be applied? They already changed the prices for sim cards(4G, phone call,...). Last time I recall ISPs changed the prices and quota directly and waited for a couple of weeks to change the speed.
Next month. This time the change should be easier since we are not waiting for the speed, we are waiting for the larger quota, which is basically just a number they change on their server...
I forced my Thompson TG585 via telnet to connect G 992.1 Annex A (ADSL) instead of G992.5 Annex (ADSL2+). My theoretical maximum speed doubled from 5 mbps to 10 mbps and my average ping dropped 10-20 ms at least. just a thought for people with bad lines.. maybe this might be helpful for upgrading to a faster speed?