Tarek wrote Dsl starts in june ... 3G in july
It's the other way around. DSL in July, 3G and call/SMS rates in June.
I wonder if other services like uchat, mb+,web&talk will be affected.
AVOlio wroteJune or July !
it says Hzayran.

Anyway, guys, did the press conference happen? Is it confirmed?
Are we really going to have all the new upgrades and prices like in the shown table?
yes these tables are from the press conference they did a presentation
NuclearVision wroteI wonder if other services like uchat, mb+,web&talk will be affected.
i hope so!

uchat 9 should be upgraded to 150mb and uchat17 to 350mb
That'd be cool, mb+ 200mb is also good. Web&talk 600 instead of 300.
Then we could say telecommunications in lebanon has really evolved!
Thanks for the share @John.
Though i wish they made a plan starting off at say, 5$.

Anyway, i am more excited for the DSL changes rather than the 3G.
That is great the news,the 4G/3G packages have similar Bandwidth to the Current DSL packages .
AVOlio wroteThanks for the share @John.
Though i wish they made a plan starting off at say, 5$.

Anyway, i am more excited for the DSL changes rather than the 3G.
Same here...

Though I got confused, since 3G changes are in June, does that make DSL changes in July?
Johnaudi wrote
AVOlio wroteThanks for the share @John.
Though i wish they made a plan starting off at say, 5$.

Anyway, i am more excited for the DSL changes rather than the 3G.
Same here...

Though I got confused, since 3G changes are in June, does that make DSL changes in July?
I believe they both were supposed to be implemented at the same time, but DSL was pushed to July "due to some legal obstacles" - https://twitter.com/WalidKaram/status/469788147803770880
Just called Cyberia and they said "They have nothing Official yet" , I was asking about 3g since I have a dongle from them and touch announced the new plans
@ali by 3G I guess they meant alfa and touch.
I'm not sure but the 3G service you are using applies to the DSL service( you are using a DSL connection through 3G technology).
Correct me if I'm wrong.
NuclearVision wrote@ali by 3G I guess they meant alfa and touch.
I'm not sure but the 3G service you are using applies to the DSL service( you are using a DSL connection through 3G technology).
Correct me if I'm wrong.
No. Just normal data over 3G, just like Alfa and Touch.
Infact ISPs such as Cyberia, IDM, Terranet... are MVNOs, piggybacking on Alfa, and Touch infrastructure.
What is scary, that they announced prices for end-users over Ogero, but nothing about private ISP (some said private ISP decide on their own). BUT. While they slashed quotas 80+%, they didnt change price for private ISP at all yet and no promises even.
Basically if they will not announce prices - they are kicking out private ISPs out of business. I'm highly suspecting that private sector will hold very serious strike, if prices for them wont be dropped until July.
nuclearcat wroteWhat is scary, that they announced prices for end-users over Ogero, but nothing about private ISP (some said private ISP decide on their own). BUT. While they slashed quotas 80+%, they didnt change price for private ISP at all yet and no promises even.
Basically if they will not announce prices - they are kicking out private ISPs out of business. I'm highly suspecting that private sector will hold very serious strike, if prices for them wont be dropped until July.
is there any union for private isps?
@nuclearcat isn't that their decision to drop the prices?
I mean if they buy cheaper bandwidth from Ogero..
IF they buy, but they can't. Ogero can drop prices only if ministry says so. Ministry also regulate Ogero prices for end-users.
Ministry dropped price for end-users (DSL, 3G), but left old (expensive) prices for ISPs. Another issue that Ogero basically doesn't give any bandwidth for ISPs.

There is no union. Some of ISPs afraid to argue with Ogero, some are just ignorant and hope they will survive.
If you put dozen of spiders in glass jar, and they will start fighting and eating each other because of hunger - this is describing very well ISPs in Lebanon.
nuclearcat wrote If u put dozen of spiders in glass jar, and they will start fighting and eating each other because of hunger - this is describing very well ISPs in Lebanon.
That's capitalism.
haidcar wrote
NuclearVision wrote@ali by 3G I guess they meant alfa and touch.
I'm not sure but the 3G service you are using applies to the DSL service( you are using a DSL connection through 3G technology).
Correct me if I'm wrong.
No. Just normal data over 3G, just like Alfa and Touch.
Infact ISPs such as Cyberia, IDM, Terranet... are MVNOs, piggybacking on Alfa, and Touch infrastructure.

Yep what @haidcar said was true, Cyberia offers 3g service but built on touch and alfa services , they even gave a touch sim card (they had a very cheap offer one time where they gave me a free dongle so I decided to take it)
Today I have received a call from terranet asking me if I will chose between the 2 Mb 40 g for $16 or the 2 MB unlimited for only $27
chaosn wroteToday I have received a call from terranet asking me if I will chose between the 2 Mb 40 g for $16 or the 2 MB unlimited for only $27
2M unlimited is 50$ though? I'll be laughing at their FUP.

BTW I'd be totally picking the 6-8M 60GB package.
2 MB Unlimited 50$
4 MB 50 GB 33$
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that would be a tough choice !!
I think 2 MB Unlimited 50$ makes no sense ... why pay 50$ for 2 Mb when you can get 6-8 MB for 42$ !!
any idea about when IDM will implement the upgrades? their sales staff seem clueless about the changes...
chaosn wroteToday I have received a call from terranet asking me if I will chose between the 2 Mb 40 g for $16 or the 2 MB unlimited for only $27
2Mbit/s unlimited for $27/month only? that's $23/month less than Ogero's new rate! but I'm taking a guess there's gonna be a FUP involved, as we know Ogero probably won't have a FUP for its unlimited package(to be tested later when people get it)

As for me, I'm gonna see if I can get 4Mbit/s 50gb for 50,000L.L/month, that is, if my line can handle the speed, if not then I'll get the 2Mbit/s unlimited option for $50/month.
I will not go with any private isp because of the "fair usage policy" label they have printed in small font on everything. It is a free pass to screw you over where you least expect. And don't get me started on the latency
Me i am going to stick with Ogero for sure also.
And at first, i am going to try the 2mb Unlimited package for 50$.
If the speed and latency is good,and if NO FUP will be applied.
I will keep on going with this package.

If not, if they will cut my speed in half,or maybe even less after reaching some sort of limit, and if im not satisfied with the latency.
I will probably move on to the 4 mbps 50GB package.
How long does it usually take to switch from Cyberia to Ogero?
Can't see the original question, however my guess is that it has something to do with the Centrale-to-user Distance for DSL
https://twitter.com/Harb_Boutros/status/471914541345820672


What does he mean by "Outdoor telecommunications cabinets"? how can this assure faster speeds?

There's also the possibility that user is asking about areas that still don't have 1Mbit/s as a minimum so I don't know...
Raficoo wroteCan't see the original question, however my guess is that it has something to do with the Centrale-to-user Distance for DSL
https://twitter.com/Harb_Boutros/status/471914541345820672
http://s24.postimg.org/43b95iemt/FBS.png

What does he mean by "Outdoor telecommunications cabinets"? how can this assure faster speeds?

There's also the possibility that user is asking about areas that still don't have 1Mbit/s as a minimum so I don't know...
They are also called active cabinets. These cabinets sit between you and the CO acting as repeater, thus extending the speed and also the range to more than 6KM
haidcar wrote They are also called active cabinets. These cabinets sit between you and the CO acting as repeater, thus extending the speed and also the range to more than 6KM
Thank you for the useful info! I guess these will be used for towns and villages that are pretty far away from the COs

Also seeing that this was not posted here before I feel it might be relevant for the future:
I like this new 'wazir', at least he's working!

I'm interested in seeing some Google headquarters soon, I remember someone mentioned they weren't getting here due to the internet or something around that area.

I live about 1km from my CO, do you think it will handle 6-8Mbps?

Offtopic - remove edit once read: Anyone else get "Error: Could not connect to smtp host "smtp.mandrillapp.com:587" (0) (php_network_getaddresses: getaddrinfo failed: Name or service not known)." while posting on LebGeeks?
Johnaudi wrote
Offtopic - remove edit once read: Anyone else get "Error: Could not connect to smtp host "smtp.mandrillapp.com:587" (0) (php_network_getaddresses: getaddrinfo failed: Name or service not known)." while posting on LebGeeks?
Yep that happened to me couple of times.
Every end of month internet is dead slow as everybody seems waiting for that time to finish their quotas.
ISPs should put every group on a different date cycle to balance the load, my 3G is scheduled on the 15th of each month.
By they way, did they published officially new tariffs in newspaper?
nuclearcat wroteBy they way, did they published officially new tariffs in newspaper?
I'm waiting for the release of 'jarida al rasmiyya' official newspaper on www.pcm.gov.lb to see the new tariffs, but nothing published until now.

anybody has an idea about hard copy of this newspaper ??

Update: the newspaper is released ( issue of 22/5/2014) and nothing published about MoT, what's the story guys ?

http://www.pcm.gov.lb/arabic/subpgoldJo.aspx?pageid=3836
amkahal wrote
nuclearcat wroteBy they way, did they published officially new tariffs in newspaper?
I'm waiting for the release of 'jarida al rasmiyya' official newspaper on www.pcm.gov.lb to see the new tariffs, but nothing published until now.

anybody has an idea about hard copy of this newspaper ??

Update: the newspaper is released ( issue of 22/5/2014) and nothing published about MoT, what's the story guys ?

http://www.pcm.gov.lb/arabic/subpgoldJo.aspx?pageid=3836
The new one should be yesterday's date (29th) the last one published online is 22nd.
jsaade wrote
amkahal wrote
nuclearcat wroteBy they way, did they published officially new tariffs in newspaper?
I'm waiting for the release of 'jarida al rasmiyya' official newspaper on www.pcm.gov.lb to see the new tariffs, but nothing published until now.

anybody has an idea about hard copy of this newspaper ??

Update: the newspaper is released ( issue of 22/5/2014) and nothing published about MoT, what's the story guys ?

http://www.pcm.gov.lb/arabic/subpgoldJo.aspx?pageid=3836
The new one should be yesterday's date (29th) the last one published online is 22nd.
Yes i know, but i think we should see something in the last posted issue because the minister takes the decisions before 22 May.
Today got unconfirmed yet news about price drop for ISPs.
While Ogero services is 10x increase in quota, for ISP they dropped price barely 58%. But even that will let ISPs survive... probably.