What does that mean?Johnaudi wrote
Same goes here...
But I do know that Cyberia is taking way more traffic than what is being used.
Internet in Lebanon - General Questions
9 days later
Hello Guys,
I want to know the cost of dedicated internet bandwidth in Lebanon, i'm thinking of building small wisp network, so before asking companies i want to hear from you guys.
many Thanks.
I want to know the cost of dedicated internet bandwidth in Lebanon, i'm thinking of building small wisp network, so before asking companies i want to hear from you guys.
many Thanks.
10 days later
I'm interested in that as well.amkahal wroteHello Guys,
I want to know the cost of dedicated internet bandwidth in Lebanon, i'm thinking of building small wisp network, so before asking companies i want to hear from you guys.
many Thanks.
for now, what i have in my mind is to use multiple ADSL connection and load balance them
m_zeid wroteI'm interested in that as well.amkahal wroteHello Guys,
I want to know the cost of dedicated internet bandwidth in Lebanon, i'm thinking of building small wisp network, so before asking companies i want to hear from you guys.
many Thanks.
for now, what i have in my mind is to use multiple ADSL connection and load balance them
I Contacted a small ISP called EagleNet, they provide 2 mb microwave link at 700$.
and what do you think? is it overpriced or reasonable?amkahal wrotem_zeid wroteI'm interested in that as well.amkahal wroteHello Guys,
I want to know the cost of dedicated internet bandwidth in Lebanon, i'm thinking of building small wisp network, so before asking companies i want to hear from you guys.
many Thanks.
for now, what i have in my mind is to use multiple ADSL connection and load balance them
I Contacted a small ISP called EagleNet, they provide 2 mb microwave link at 700$.
What about satellite internet? I'm certain that 2 way is illegal, but what about one way (only download) ?
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it's for bekaa, i think it's lower for Beirut and the suburbs. the mentioned price is an average between ISPs.m_zeid wroteand what do you think? is it overpriced or reasonable?
What about satellite internet? I'm certain that 2 way is illegal, but what about one way (only download) ?
as for satellite, i'm interested if you know something, but what what upload fees ??
I was looking to solution that gives me a good internet connection, one of the concepts is 2 connections with load balancing on cisco router and maybe other configurations.amkahal wroteit's for bekaa, i think it's lower for Beirut and the suburbs. the mentioned price is an average between ISPs.m_zeid wroteand what do you think? is it overpriced or reasonable?
What about satellite internet? I'm certain that 2 way is illegal, but what about one way (only download) ?
as for satellite, i'm interested if you know something, but what what upload fees ??
So mainly I'll use a 4M adsl from some reliable ISP (latency wise) + other a Satellite connection.
I was looking for 1 way connection but found non, for a list of sat ISPs : http://www.ispreview.co.uk/isp_list/ISP_List_Satellite.php
For me, i've got my eyes on this:
Avonline Broadband
Price
£24.95
Setup / Hardware
£274.85
Speed (DL)
20Mbps
Speed (UP)
6Mbps
Monthly Data Usage
10GB (Unlimited Offpeak)
Contract
12 Months
Satellite(s)
KA-SAT (9° East)
It's on KA-SAT (from Eutelsat) which covers my area i believe, check this map:
http://coopi.khrunichev.ru/download/2010/kasat/img/zonpokr_m.jpg
Look at this plan, you will get 20mbps for download speed, how is that for your downloads and torrents? and 10GB limit for peak times and unlimited offpeak, like we what have in lebanon unlimited night traffic.
Still have to contact them to understand more about data usage and if we can get a plan without upload which must also lower the price.
Hey did i mention it? all of this for only 40$ !!
the only con here is the installation cost and trouble.
good news, keep me updated.
17 days later
out of curiosity just tried to google about internet news in lebanon, nothing new.
but this showed up: Lebanon Internet speed to rise to 20 megabits per second
So.... what happened?
Anybody has any news about upcoming upgrades? when IMEWE was coming we were so excited and we had too many articles per day, but now we have nothing.
but this showed up: Lebanon Internet speed to rise to 20 megabits per second
So.... what happened?
Anybody has any news about upcoming upgrades? when IMEWE was coming we were so excited and we had too many articles per day, but now we have nothing.
agreed, hands down.ballad wrotewe want speed, not articlesm_zeid wroteSo.... what happened?
Anybody has any news about upcoming upgrades? when IMEWE was coming we were so excited and we had too many articles per day, but now we have nothing.
but if you don't talk/nag about it you will never have it!
We should start new FB page or group just like 2 years ago.
Politics happened I'm afraid, disagreements here, disagreements there and arguments of non-technical reasons is why we're still on the non-fiber road, and I'm not optimistic on any short-term developments being the current Cabinet's short life and the technical knowledge of the current minister. I don't know what to say really, all I know is fiber optics is the future and given examples from around the world, it can be said that one way to fix this problem of "you can only get bandwidth from a bottle-necked government state source" is privatization of the telecoms sector. This will allow more ISPs to grow and get their own lined source of internet, which will lead to competition which leads to offers and reduced prices. Until then we're staying on this low-speed limited high pinged road for a while....m_zeid wroteout of curiosity just tried to google about internet news in lebanon, nothing new.
but this showed up: Lebanon Internet speed to rise to 20 megabits per second
So.... what happened?
Meanwhile in Europe an online friend of mine in my squad of a certain game told me he was patching up Elder Scrolls Online, he knows how bad my(well Lebanon in general) connection is and sent me this screenshot of him updating the game, look at the speed. he pays on 10€/month for this :|
http://i.imgur.com/rguCI79.jpg
My solution to fix the Lebanese internet is to go to Europe.
They're focusing about speed when they should focus about latency. The speed is fine for now.
It all needs a bit more fixing. If they cut the latency in half, double the quota and double the speed, to me things would be perfect.
Ogero latency is ok now. I know that 100 ms is 0 ms in other countries, but considering we live in a very bad country, 100 ms is fine, and we can work well with it. But these tiny quotas are killing me. The 1 GB abroad costs 4 cents, it's sold in lebanon for 4 $ it's ridiculous...
Ogero latency is ok now. I know that 100 ms is 0 ms in other countries, but considering we live in a very bad country, 100 ms is fine, and we can work well with it. But these tiny quotas are killing me. The 1 GB abroad costs 4 cents, it's sold in lebanon for 4 $ it's ridiculous...
I agree with user on this. The quota really bugs me. And don't say "you have unlimited quota at night" because having to wait till midnight just to watch a couple of videos is ridiculous. I live with my family, and my brother uses so much quota it's impossible not going beyond the limits.
Plus corruption isn't going to solve anything.
Plus corruption isn't going to solve anything.
At least now, it is possible if you have the money, to buy decent internet.
I mean if I could afford 100$ a month, I would have gotten something really decent...
I mean if I could afford 100$ a month, I would have gotten something really decent...
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Only "rich" folks can afford "decent" internet connections, while the average consumer can only afford a below average connection. That's a pretty terrible situation, and I'm being generous while saying this. edit: forgot to add that Ogero refuses to give me above 1Mbps speed no matter how much I pay even tho I'm not that far from central, and I actually had a faster connection from Terranetuser wroteAt least now, it is possible if you have the money, to buy decent internet.
I mean if I could afford 100$ a month, I would have gotten something really decent...
Our quotas are below average, I barely watch any youtube when I actually have loads of stuff on queue - and live streams? that's a complete no-no. Our speeds and latency are admit-ably low but I'd prefer our quotas get fixed first, we need them to be at least 5 times better then now.
AvoK95 wroteThey're focusing about speed when they should focus about latency. The speed is fine for now.
Guys speed is directly related to latency, the faster the internet is the lower the latency will be although not by much.user wroteOgero latency is ok now. I know that 100 ms is 0 ms in other countries, but considering we live in a very bad country, 100 ms is fine, and we can work well with it.
latency in Lebanon is PERFECT, there is no way the latency would be lower than that considering most of us are using Adsl which by itself adds around 30 to 40ms. so the only way to lower the latency is switch to fiber.
the backbones, servers and routers at Ogero are very good they are only adding minimal latency to the connections which is the best it can get.
i used to have an Adsl connection with 15ms at most latency to any server in Lebanon and around 65ms to Europe, done that simply by turning off interleaving.
The point is keep nagging for speed which when it is increased and we finally switch to fiber latency will improve automatically but on current Adsl technology and speeds latency is already perfect
DNA, can you explain a little bit about interleaving?
I believe we actually have a really good latency we should get to bring us more quota.
One thing i can't understand is didn't we get connected to a new backbone with like double the capacity of IMEWE? Why hasn't it affected the consumers?
I believe we actually have a really good latency we should get to bring us more quota.
One thing i can't understand is didn't we get connected to a new backbone with like double the capacity of IMEWE? Why hasn't it affected the consumers?
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http://www.dslreports.com/faq/559Interleaving is an extra level of error correction.
It makes sure that all ATM packets that come from the DSLAM to you and from you to the DSLAM are not corrupted, and if any are, it forces a re-send.
Having Interleaving off may introduce packet loss depending upon how clean your line is. If it is a rather clean line, packet loss may be as low as 3%, but if it is a dirty line, packet loss may be as high as 50%.
Having Interleaving off does have its advantages though. It lowers your ping times for instance, and also makes playing in multiplayer games more enjoyable since multiplayer games don't require that all packets reach the destination.
http://www.dslreports.com/faq/2Interleaving is set by the LEC on the DSLAM for your service, so the only people who can change the interleaving settings are the physical provider of your service.
The exception to this is the Cisco range of ADSL routers, where interleaving can be increased or reduced, if you have the enable password for the router.
Increasing latency by setting higher interleaving rates means your connection is less vulnerable to noise. Decreasing latency by decreasing interleaving may cause connection drops.