Internet in Lebanon - General Questions

samer · 2011-08-23T21:02:43+00:00

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kdawg4-956

There is word going around that ogero are going to implement the unlimited night traffic-double speed plan, has anyone heard anything about this yet?

kfc

ILIA_93 wrote
kfc wroteI subscribed with Ogero 2-3 years ago for a short period then switched back to an illimited cable subscription. If I want to subscribe again now with a private ISP, will they oblige to buy a new modem from them or I can use the one I got from Ogero (there is an Ogero label on it and it supports a speed up to 8 Mbps)?
I called Sodetel for the same issue ( I'm with Ogero now ) they told me that i can keep my modem, but they'll need to reprogram it or something. You'll just pay the subscription fee.

Good. Any idea how much does subscription cost at sodetel? Their website seems not to open !

In this case do they still need 1-2 months to give me the connection?

ILIA_93

kfc wroteGood. Any idea how much does subscription cost at sodetel? Their website seems not to open !

In this case do they still need 1-2 months to give me the connection?

It's around 40$, as for the time you'll wait, I have no idea. Call 1268 for more and exact infos.

kdawg4-956

Can somebody please tell me why ogero doesn't have unlimited night traffic and double speed?! And higher prices?! PLEASE SOMEBODY TELL ME!!

hussam

kdawg4.956 wroteCan somebody please tell me why ogero doesn't have unlimited night traffic and double speed?! And higher prices?! PLEASE SOMEBODY TELL ME!!

Ask Ogero but the obvious answer is they have a monopoly. why would they want to give you free nightly bandwidth?

RyanM

Can anyone confirm when Ogero will start using the new plans? im guessing right at the end of the month since then everyone will pay for this months usage and they can start the new plans on a blank slate but im just guessing. so if anyone can confirm that would be great!

Kareem

Pardon my ignorance but I'm trying to understand couple of illogical things here :

When Ogero introduced the DSL packages and rate, they limited the DSL bandwidth to 1mbps claiming that any bandwidth above it is not supported due to old infrastructure ( from home to DSLAM etc.. ) and HDSL modem is required with separate connection to network whatsoever as we are still using copper twisted cables etc..

In that case, how can we get our 2mpbs - 4mbps connections ? should we all upgrade to HDSL ? which I highly doubt

What about the extra fee if you are a heavy user and what about the upload speeds

Actually When I upgraded my Ogero connection from 512kbps to 1mbps last year, I couldn't use the G.dmt modulation anymore which seems to work better than other type of modulation ( latency 10ms lower between host and DSLAM and the rate was 512kbps/128kbps vs 507kbps/121kbps reported by the modem )

On a 1mbps from Ogero, I can only connect using ADSL2 or ADSL2+ modulation which seems to be weird...

Anyway here's what my modem reports :

Statistics -- ADSL

Mode: ADSL2+
Line Coding: Trellis On
Status: No Defect
Link Power State: L0

Downstream Upstream
SNR Margin (dB): 33.8 34.0
Attenuation (dB): 27.5 12.3
Output Power (dBm): 12.0 0.4
Attainable Rate (Kbps): 9820 324
Rate (Kbps): 1022 250
MSGc (number of bytes in overhead channel message): 53 75
B (number of bytes in Mux Data Frame): 35 7
M (number of Mux Data Frames in FEC Data Frame): 1 16
T (Mux Data Frames over sync bytes): 1 1
R (number of check bytes in FEC Data Frame): 16 16
S (ratio of FEC over PMD Data Frame length): 1.0947 14.2222
L (number of bits in PMD Data Frame): 380 81
D (interleaver depth): 64 4
Delay (msec): 17 14

Super Frames: 42750788 137181
Super Frame Errors: 0 0
RS Words: 2522296500 710643
RS Correctable Errors: 512 0
RS Uncorrectable Errors: 0 N/A

.....

================================================== =======

Statistics -- ADSL

Mode: ADSL2
Line Coding: Trellis On
Status: No Defect
Link Power State: L0

Downstream Upstream
SNR Margin (dB): 39.6 29.0
Attenuation (dB): 16.5 12.1
Output Power (dBm): 12.2 0.4
Attainable Rate (Kbps): 13817 324
Rate (Kbps): 1023 252
MSGc (number of bytes in overhead channel message): 53 75
B (number of bytes in Mux Data Frame): 35 7
M (number of Mux Data Frames in FEC Data Frame): 1 16
T (Mux Data Frames over sync bytes): 1 1
R (number of check bytes in FEC Data Frame): 16 16
S (ratio of FEC over PMD Data Frame length): 1.0947 14.2222
L (number of bits in PMD Data Frame): 380 81
D (interleaver depth): 64 4
Delay (msec): 17 14

Super Frames: 3477 3064
Super Frame Errors: 0 0
RS Words: 205164 15499
RS Correctable Errors: 0 0
RS Uncorrectable Errors: 0 N/A

......

Under G.dmt the attainable download rate was around 11mbps and upload was 1.4 mbps; unfortunately under ADSL2/ADSL2+ modulation, it's only 324kbps for the upload... The SNR was higher and attenuation was lower...

I am not sure if the ISPs will provide the new advertised bandwidth to end-users , but without a good QoS and latency, those numbers mean nothing unless all we care about is the extra quota and lower prices; but again, still better than nothing... crossed fingers.

Appreciate any comment or clarification

monkey-d-luffy

How will this upgrading in the bandwith and price reduction affect Universities? (like USJ where internet their sucks or USEK where it sucks more)

The-MMMs

trophyhunter wrotewait so all ISPs will have the fast internet to offer in about a month ?plus,how can i know up to what speed my modem handles? i have a thompson tg585 v7 modem

web browser

192.168.1.254

User/pass = user/user

Go to broadband connection on the left hand side

it should show the speed that your currently on with some other info.

RyanM wroteCan anyone confirm when Ogero will start using the new plans? im guessing right at the end of the month since then everyone will pay for this months usage and they can start the new plans on a blank slate but im just guessing. so if anyone can confirm that would be great!

I called Ogero, and the tech guy told me "starting" from sep 1... god knows what he means by that.

I didn't feel he gave me an answer, just a well educated guess, but regardless they are working at it as we speak.

kdawg4.956 wroteCan somebody please tell me why ogero doesn't have unlimited night traffic and double speed?! And higher prices?! PLEASE SOMEBODY TELL ME!!

Ogero are more interested in personal gain and quality of their connections. Give people their double speed and unlimited night and bye-bye QoS

if you only have in mind heavy browsing and downloading, then there is no reason not to take with an ISP that offers double speed / unlimited night .

AvoK95

what's gonna happened to stuff like WINS or Wise or Mobi ?

MichelG

I believe Wise, Wigo & Mobi will all be phased out as part of the Telecom's push for 3G (while the rest of world upgrades to 4G/LTE).

And as The-MMMs put it:

[They are] more interested in personal gain

samer

Guys, a quick reminder: this topic is reserved only for questions and answers. Other posts will be deleted to keep the information easily accessible.

ILIA_93

The-MMMs wroteOgero are more interested in personal gain and quality of their connections. Give people their double speed and unlimited night and bye-bye QoS

Exactly, that's why I'm with Ogero now.

But with the new speeds, I'll switch to anyone with unlimited plans.

xterm

I hope Ogero never gives unlimited, I don't want my network to get congested by all the "I d0wnl0ads internets" users.

m0ei

Anyone can confirm if the 2mb package will have unlimited download and double speed at night ? Private ISPs ofcorse.

kdawg4-956

m0ei wroteAnyone can confirm if the 2mb package will have unlimited download and double speed at night ? Private ISPs ofcorse.

I called terranet, even though i am not a terranet user, and they told me that they are going to keep them after the upgrade

vic

Do we have any idea about the latency difference with the new routes/connections?

Will ogero still be the only ISP worth having if you want to game online?

xazbrat

There are rumors going around that Ogero users will see an improvement starting on the 1st (of September)--does anyone have any sources to link to?

ILIA_93

xazbrat wroteThere are rumors going around that Ogero users will see an improvement starting on the 1st (of September)--does anyone have any sources to link to?

There's only 1 major improvement considering Ogero service, is that the modem lock on the Internet before my PC starts up. I mean like no time, while before it will take a minimum of 15mins so I'm able to start browsing.

The guy in the support, told me that just when the new law is in the official gazette, it will take only 1 week so the new speeds are delivered.

Kareem

ILIA_93 wrote
xazbrat wroteThere are rumors going around that Ogero users will see an improvement starting on the 1st (of September)--does anyone have any sources to link to?
There's only 1 major improvement considering Ogero service, is that the modem lock on the Internet before my PC starts up. I mean like no time, while before it will take a minimum of 15mins so I'm able to start browsing.

The guy in the support, told me that just when the new law is in the official gazette, it will take only 1 week so the new speeds are delivered.

That lock issue has been solved since 3 months ( at least in my case )

Now the question is... Are we gonna have our upgrade or are we gonna have reduced rate ?

Say if I have a 1mbps connection now and paying 115,000LL excluding VAT, will the new connection bandwith be automatically upgraded to 4mbps along with the quota or the price iwill automatically drop to 34,000LL ?

because in the 2nd case, I will have to get the last bill and take my dad to sign some papers at Ogero etc... and then wait for the other month to get the bandwidth upgrade...

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