Adnan wroteIs VDSL applied on the regular packages or the Fiber Optics packages (starting 300GB / 75,000LBP) ?
regular. you dont need vdsl if you have fiber
Toufic wrote
enthralled wroteAnyone knows where VDSL modems are available in lebanon?
Last thing though, make sure that you are eligible for VDSL first = ask for a feasibility study ASAP (the longer you wait to ask, the longer they will reply with an answer (ogero that is). If it's with an ISP, don't expect much VDSL with or without the new modem, they are capping the OS now, you can imagine what they'll do in the future)
If you are not eligible, don't wast your money and wait untill 2018 when active cabinets are installed (And from what i've been seeing in the past months, even then it's still questionable how reliable the speeds delivered are going to be)
but the new modem can serve him for both vdsl and fttc no?
Toufic wrote
enthralled wroteAnyone knows where VDSL modems are available in lebanon?
https://macrotronics.net/product_info.php/asus-dsl-ac68u-ac1900-wireless-adsl-modem-router-p-9987

I contacted them a month ago about new modems since everyone will eventually need them once the upgraded ACTUALLY takes place and not this trial period.

Here's a link to an Asus router modem (it's one of the best, did my research on them). However they don't currently have it in their stock but you can ask them to get it for you. No clue how long it'll take.

But if you have someone living abroad and who is coming soon to lebanon or who can ship it to you, see the NetGear modems (they're rated as the best)

But what ever you choose to buy, make sure it works with you ISP and/or Ogero (Eventually i think everyone will switch to them)

Last thing though, make sure that you are eligible for VDSL first = ask for a feasibility study ASAP (the longer you wait to ask, the longer they will reply with an answer (ogero that is). If it's with an ISP, don't expect much VDSL with or without the new modem, they are capping the OS now, you can imagine what they'll do in the future)
If you are not eligible, don't wast your money and wait untill 2018 when active cabinets are installed (And from what i've been seeing in the past months, even then it's still questionable how reliable the speeds delivered are going to be)
I am with Ogero, and already asked for VDSL feasibility test. Now I'm checking for modems while waiting their reply... The modem you mentioned is pretty expensive, what about the one pcandparts have: Cisco-Linksys X6200 AC750 WI-FI VDSL Modem Router Link $92.00 ? How do I know if a modem I choose will work with Ogero?
enthralled wrote
Toufic wrote
enthralled wroteAnyone knows where VDSL modems are available in lebanon?
https://macrotronics.net/product_info.php/asus-dsl-ac68u-ac1900-wireless-adsl-modem-router-p-9987

I contacted them a month ago about new modems since everyone will eventually need them once the upgraded ACTUALLY takes place and not this trial period.

Here's a link to an Asus router modem (it's one of the best, did my research on them). However they don't currently have it in their stock but you can ask them to get it for you. No clue how long it'll take.

But if you have someone living abroad and who is coming soon to lebanon or who can ship it to you, see the NetGear modems (they're rated as the best)

But what ever you choose to buy, make sure it works with you ISP and/or Ogero (Eventually i think everyone will switch to them)

Last thing though, make sure that you are eligible for VDSL first = ask for a feasibility study ASAP (the longer you wait to ask, the longer they will reply with an answer (ogero that is). If it's with an ISP, don't expect much VDSL with or without the new modem, they are capping the OS now, you can imagine what they'll do in the future)
If you are not eligible, don't wast your money and wait untill 2018 when active cabinets are installed (And from what i've been seeing in the past months, even then it's still questionable how reliable the speeds delivered are going to be)
I am with Ogero, and already asked for VDSL feasibility test. Now I'm checking for modems while waiting their reply... The modem you mentioned is pretty expensive, what about the one pcandparts have: Cisco-Linksys X6200 AC750 WI-FI VDSL Modem Router Link $92.00 ? How do I know if a modem I choose will work with Ogero?
I read some reviews about that modem , not so great.
Check top technologies dawra for VR400 (100$-130$)
and compuworld dekwane (they have VDSL modems)
nefe_lpmk wrote
enthralled wrote
Toufic wrote
https://macrotronics.net/product_info.php/asus-dsl-ac68u-ac1900-wireless-adsl-modem-router-p-9987

I contacted them a month ago about new modems since everyone will eventually need them once the upgraded ACTUALLY takes place and not this trial period.

Here's a link to an Asus router modem (it's one of the best, did my research on them). However they don't currently have it in their stock but you can ask them to get it for you. No clue how long it'll take.

But if you have someone living abroad and who is coming soon to lebanon or who can ship it to you, see the NetGear modems (they're rated as the best)

But what ever you choose to buy, make sure it works with you ISP and/or Ogero (Eventually i think everyone will switch to them)

Last thing though, make sure that you are eligible for VDSL first = ask for a feasibility study ASAP (the longer you wait to ask, the longer they will reply with an answer (ogero that is). If it's with an ISP, don't expect much VDSL with or without the new modem, they are capping the OS now, you can imagine what they'll do in the future)
If you are not eligible, don't wast your money and wait untill 2018 when active cabinets are installed (And from what i've been seeing in the past months, even then it's still questionable how reliable the speeds delivered are going to be)
I am with Ogero, and already asked for VDSL feasibility test. Now I'm checking for modems while waiting their reply... The modem you mentioned is pretty expensive, what about the one pcandparts have: Cisco-Linksys X6200 AC750 WI-FI VDSL Modem Router Link $92.00 ? How do I know if a modem I choose will work with Ogero?
I read some reviews about that modem , not so great.
Check top technologies dawra for VR400 (100$-130$)
and compuworld dekwane (they have VDSL modems)
They don't.
They didn't even know what vdsl is.
They told me and I quote "la ma ba2 njib menon hawde" while he had no clue what it was. XD
(compuworld)
AVOlio wrote
nefe_lpmk wrote
enthralled wrote
I am with Ogero, and already asked for VDSL feasibility test. Now I'm checking for modems while waiting their reply... The modem you mentioned is pretty expensive, what about the one pcandparts have: Cisco-Linksys X6200 AC750 WI-FI VDSL Modem Router Link $92.00 ? How do I know if a modem I choose will work with Ogero?
I read some reviews about that modem , not so great.
Check top technologies dawra for VR400 (100$-130$)
and compuworld dekwane (they have VDSL modems)
They don't.
They didn't even know what vdsl is.
They told me and I quote "la ma ba2 njib menon hawde" while he had no clue what it was.
(compuworld)
As soon as i heard about the update, i did extensive research about this (Modem that support VDSL)
Not many computer shops in lebanon have an upgraded stock. But that's normal because no one ever used those kinds of modem here.

If you can have anyone from abroad to bring you a NetGear Modem or an Asus & maybe even Tp-link (they are known to be the best). For some reason in lebanon: we are fixated on Lynksis & D-Link despite both of them being very casual modem.

As for if your modem will work : you simply ask.
Now off course, the newer ones have software and configuration that will almost surely work with any ISP. However, there's always that chance that the modem's protocol might have some configuration that may not work with your ISP: so to be one the safe side: simply ask them (but let's hope the tech support has a clue what it is you are asking)
P.S. The more advanced your modem, the more probable it'll work no matter the ISP

As for difference between VDSL and FTTC: Fiber to the cabinet is something ogero is working on in order to be able to deliver G.fast internet as well as VDSL to consumers. It will do so by installing active cabinet every 800m from one another.
(That still hasn't gotten the approval of the cabinet of ministers - to be later published in the official gazette - to be later executed)

The difference is with FTTH: Fiber to the home: There you'll need an optical unit and fiber wiring instead of your existing hardware.

But do take note that with VDSL and G.Fast, you can reach speeds not so different from fiber. Once you get to 300-400Mbps, for home users that is, it's more than enough (the issue however is CAP)

The newer technology none the less would evidently be fiber.
But from what's ive been seeing: it seems like we'll have to wait some time before anything concert to happen whether it's Fiber to the home, fiber to the cabinet (VDSL/G.fast), hell we are still at this early stage and it seems a mess already.
AVOlio wrote
nefe_lpmk wrote
enthralled wrote
I am with Ogero, and already asked for VDSL feasibility test. Now I'm checking for modems while waiting their reply... The modem you mentioned is pretty expensive, what about the one pcandparts have: Cisco-Linksys X6200 AC750 WI-FI VDSL Modem Router Link $92.00 ? How do I know if a modem I choose will work with Ogero?
I read some reviews about that modem , not so great.
Check top technologies dawra for VR400 (100$-130$)
and compuworld dekwane (they have VDSL modems)
They don't.
They didn't even know what vdsl is.
They told me and I quote "la ma ba2 njib menon hawde" while he had no clue what it was.
(compuworld)
I was buying a mouse and I saw one modem myself on the shelf...
nefe_lpmk wrote
AVOlio wrote
nefe_lpmk wrote
I read some reviews about that modem , not so great.
Check top technologies dawra for VR400 (100$-130$)
and compuworld dekwane (they have VDSL modems)
They don't.
They didn't even know what vdsl is.
They told me and I quote "la ma ba2 njib menon hawde" while he had no clue what it was.
(compuworld)
I was buying a mouse and I saw one modem myself on the shelf...
Which one was it?
You sure it was vdsl?
Either you saw wrong, or they have no clue about their stock or just as i said, they dont know what it is xD.
Please just a technical question (excuse my ignorance): who is the side that assigns a certain bandwidth to a user? the DSP or the ISP?

In other terms which side buys and pays the price of the allocated bandwidth?
ISP, DSP just transports bandwidth from ISP to customer (last mile infrastructure).
nuclearcat wroteISP, DSP just transports bandwidth from ISP to customer (last mile infrastructure).
someone here gave the example of two brothers living in the same apartment having two connections on different lines from the same ISP but different DSPs. One was getting a speed of 15 megabits per second and the other was limited to 7. so I thought that it was the DSP that could put such limitation or really unleash the speed...
Each DSP has its own policy, they might have congestion to DSLAM, or they might keep very high SNR margin to avoid connection quality issues. But at the end ISP can ask to change that.
nuclearcat wroteEach DSP has its own policy, they might have congestion to DSLAM, or they might keep very high SNR margin to avoid connection quality issues. But at the end ISP can ask to change that.
so DSP control bandwidth not only ISPs!
Does someone knows a way to access the credential (user name /password) of Ogero 's Technicolor dsl modem. I tried many combinations with no success. Ogero change the credential and refuses to give it for the end user.

Admin Admin
User User
etc...

I read online that are softwares you can purchase that has the ability to find them. However, I take this in a grain of salt and I feel skeptical towards them.
Tech Guru wroteDoes someone knows a way to access the credential (user name /password) of Ogero 's Technicolor dsl modem. I tried many combinations with no success. Ogero change the credential and refuses to give it for the end user.

Admin Admin
User User
etc...

I read online that are softwares you can purchase that has the ability to find them. However, I take this in a grain of salt and I feel skeptical towards them.
When they set up the modem at my grandma's home, the 2Mbps unlimited package a few months ago, I asked for the username and password and they just told me it's 'user/user". i guess I was lucky.
Ogero came to my apartment, they run their tests and they came to a different conclusion this time. The problem was NOT from my side. It's not the copper wire ( actually they couldn't blame the copper wires this time as I changed almost every cable - yes too much work )

So they left saying that there is a problem in the C.O and that they will "fix" / work on it Monday....

They said bandwidth limit coming from the DSLAM is 9Mbps and it should be much higher BUT they have no idea why.
Sync rate drops every day a little bit lower and errors rise :p This will lead to a disaster on the horizon.
Kareem wroteOgero came to my apartment, they run their tests and they came to a different conclusion this time. The problem was NOT from my side. It's not the copper wire ( actually they couldn't blame the copper wires this time as I changed almost every cable - yes too much work )

So they left saying that there is a problem in the C.O and that they will "fix" / work on it Monday....

They said bandwidth limit coming from the DSLAM is 9Mbps and it should be much higher BUT they have no idea why.
Hey, which C.O is it? I have a similar problem, my internet connection keeps disconnecting and it is very unstable. Sometimes the internet would cut and connect then cut again directly making the internet unusable. I contacted ogero several times, and each time they reply to check my internal cables, which I am sure now that they are fine. So what can i do to solve my problem? Any suggestions? Here are my line stats if it helps :)
Line Stats
vengeance666 wroteSync rate drops every day a little bit lower and errors rise This will lead to a disaster on the horizon.
I couldn't agree more.


@thelebgeek : Bir Hassan
TheLebGeek wrote
Kareem wroteOgero came to my apartment, they run their tests and they came to a different conclusion this time. The problem was NOT from my side. It's not the copper wire ( actually they couldn't blame the copper wires this time as I changed almost every cable - yes too much work )

So they left saying that there is a problem in the C.O and that they will "fix" / work on it Monday....

They said bandwidth limit coming from the DSLAM is 9Mbps and it should be much higher BUT they have no idea why.
Hey, which C.O is it? I have a similar problem, my internet connection keeps disconnecting and it is very unstable. Sometimes the internet would cut and connect then cut again directly making the internet unusable. I contacted ogero several times, and each time they reply to check my internal cables, which I am sure now that they are fine. So what can i do to solve my problem? Any suggestions? Here are my line stats if it helps :)
http://i.imgur.com/mtSCMPS.png
Looking at your stats, they're excellent compared to mine... very low attenuation but attainable rate should be much higher.

I'm starting to think that they are doing some dirty SNR limitation but I have no clue if it's possible.

If you notice, we both have the same SNR Margin between 10 and 11 dB which will not make it possible to sync at more than 8 Mbps.


Edit :

yay CRC / HEC errors everywhere now....