I don't want faster connections or higher quotas. I want less outages. What's already available today is expensive, but the speed is okay to do most of the work (unless you're torrenting like a madman, and I have a hunch that the vast majority of this traffic is illegal).

Outages on the other hand are insane. Sometimes my connection just drops, for no apparent reason. Sometimes I cannot even connect to my ISP. Support channels are a joke.

For me to be able to work comfortably in Lebanon, I'd need a more reliable connection, not higher speeds. I don't mind scheduling my downloads over night. Don't get me wrong, I live in Paris and have a high end connection. It's cool to be able to download whatever I feel like it on the spot, and you cannot do this even on the most expensive corporate plans in Lebanon. But this is not required for me to work. However, if I have a video call with my team scheduled at 3pm and Internet connection just dropped for no reason, I'm screwed.

I applaud any work being done. Let's hope they'll deliver on what they're promising us. But advertising theoretical high speeds that I can reach for a few hours a day (on a good day), is NOT solving my issues...
I think the issue of getting disconnected isn't from Lebanon but from your ISP.

My ISP never dropped the internet, I usually get a constant internet connection, with no disconnection or whatsoever (except the electricity, you can build a UPS)

But it sure does steal your traffic like hell.
I'm with audi on this connection is VERY stable with cyberia but i am sure they are stealing traffic. Contacting them next month rage mail should do the trick.
Yeah I'm with ogero and I rarely get any outage.
What's your ISP Rahmu ?
Fixed broadband (DSL) reliability in lebanon is pretty good, Mobile broadband (Edge, HSDPA, LTE, along with WiMax and mobi...) on the other hand is highly unreliable. I have tried fixed broadband connection in several other countries and lebanon is on par in terms of reliability.

The number of connected devices is increasing exponentially, gaming consoles, tablets, smartphones, smart TVs, and soon smart watches... you get the point soon everything will be connected, and it is sooner than you think. speed plays an integral part, it is simply absurd to have all these devices connected to a 2, 4 or 8mbps connection.

Having high speed internet does not mean going download frenzy on pirated content. I strongly believe that High speed Internet ( along affordable content prices) is the only solution to piracy. Buy you will never have companies such as Netflix, Hulu, and other streaming providers offering their services here.

Today the average size of a casual game on a tablet is around 100mb, on the other hand next gen consoles and PC games are reaching astronomical sizes of 30GB and 40GB. it is 2014 and if you want to enjoy 720p and even 1080p you will need to subscribe to fastest connection just for that. and lets not talk about 4k
geekevo wroteI'm with audi on this connection is VERY stable with cyberia but i am sure they are stealing traffic. Contacting them next month rage mail should do the trick.
Let's team on this (I'm going to rage call them).


When are we going to get actual dynamic IP addresses for each subscriber? Or am I still dreaming?
Avoid their phone support team it is useless. The real technical people who know what is going on are available by email, last time the phone support guys refused to put me in the gamer's pool and told me to contact them by email.
I am in favor of more quota. I did not get the details of this improvement though. I can't find the details.

Anyway does that explain why ogero's latency doubled for me in jounieh?(they could be testing or rewiring)

anyway I wouldn't put too much faith in this. We placed a lot of faith in the cable 3 years ago and we speculated imaginary number. Our quota remained the same(basically uploads and downloads were merged and a bit was added) and we were given speed only to finish our quota faster.

Our internet copper based network is too outdated to handle a lot of simultaneous traffic...
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geekevo wroteI'm with audi on this connection is VERY stable with cyberia but i am sure they are stealing traffic. Contacting them next month rage mail should do the trick.
Let's team on this (I'm going to rage call them).


When are we going to get actual dynamic IP addresses for each subscriber? Or am I still dreaming?
I am with cyberia and I have a unique dynamic IP. If you are on the gaming server you should have a unique dynamic IP , if you have a fake IP , then contact them and demand a real IP they will fix it in couple days.
Let's just hope that 2M unlimited package doesn't have BS FUP. Because if it doesn't, then this will be the perfect package (for me). I don't need 1080p to enjoy something. I just don't like it when stuff is limited.
ramy58 wroteLet's just hope that 2M unlimited package doesn't have BS FUP. Because if it doesn't, then this will be the perfect package (for me). I don't need 1080p to enjoy something. I just don't like it when stuff is limited.
FUP defeats the purpose of unlimited , there is packages now that are unlimited but with crappy ping and FUP , if we are paying 50$ for unlimited it should be same as now just with no quota
I just realized if they cancel the unlimited nightly traffic it would be a step backwards for us. We can do more than 40 or 50GB per month on nightly traffic with decent speeds.
user wroteI am in favor of more quota. I did not get the details of this improvement though. I can't find the details.

Anyway does that explain why ogero's latency doubled for me in jounieh?(they could be testing or rewiring)

anyway I wouldn't put too much faith in this. We placed a lot of faith in the cable 3 years ago and we speculated imaginary number. Our quota remained the same(basically uploads and downloads were merged and a bit was added) and we were given speed only to finish our quota faster.

Our internet copper based network is too outdated to handle a lot of simultaneous traffic...
The full details of the improvement will be announced on Friday the 23th at 10am at a press conference by the telecom minister(as he replied to a tweet asking about that)

but this is what we know so far, as shown in this table:


As for your latency, it could be from various reasons, someone tampered with your wire perhaps?(I had a similar encounter once when Ogero installed a new telephone line in the building and accidentally set mine to an old obsolete wire), could be that they are testing something? or it could be something local(your modem usually)

As you can see the numbers in the table are presumably download + upload combined(since this is how it was the last upgrade without any distinction mentioned)

and while yes, I do agree our copper-based network is outdated, let's not forget we had the same worry when Ogero introduced unlimited usage nights and we thought we the QoS was gonna sink bottom at that time, but surprisingly the network was completely unaffected and this makes sense considering Ogero controls most of the bandwidth of the country, so they are(out of all ISPs) the most capable of handling a large simultaneous traffic load.

The question that bugs me is how are they gonna deliver the minimum 2mbit/s speed if alot of people that use Ogero now(including myself) have heard that their line cannot support more than 1mbit/s
ramy58 wroteLet's just hope that 2M unlimited package doesn't have BS FUP. Because if it doesn't, then this will be the perfect package (for me). I don't need 1080p to enjoy something. I just don't like it when stuff is limited.
I plan to get that offer as well, and yes the same question wanders in my head, will it be FUP enforced?
but considering Ogero didn't implement FUP on unlimited night usage I feel this offer will follow the same trend. I suppose at the conference if the minister doesn't mention an FUP for the unlimited plan then it's safe to assume there won't be one.

Another question is whether the unlimited night(12am-7am) will stay for the limited options when the new plans are activated.

This half-month will bring about alot of information and hopefully good news :)
geekevo wroteI just realized if they cancel the unlimited nightly traffic it would be a step backwards for us. We can do more than 40 or 50GB per month on nightly traffic with decent speeds.
Asked the minister's counselor today. That's what he said. Fingers crossed.
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they are not going to cancel the unlimited nightly traffic, walid karam on twitter said that (he is the advisor of boutros harb) go to his twitter account:@walidkaram
Fernand wrote Asked the minister's counselor today. That's what he said. Fingers crossed.
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Ahmad Toutounji wrotethey are not going to cancel the unlimited nightly traffic, walid karam on twitter said that (he is the advisor of boutros harb) go to his twitter account:@walidkaram
Superb news! thanks for posting this. Guess we can put that rumor to rest.
geekevo wroteAvoid their phone support team it is useless. The real technical people who know what is going on are available by email, last time the phone support guys refused to put me in the gamer's pool and told me to contact them by email.
"gamerrs pool"??
Well, with all due respect to Walid Karam, he doesn't seem to be knowledgeable about the subject (or at least he is applying foreign assumptions to Lebanon's network).
I am referring to his reply saying "ADSL supports up to 8Mbps ~5km)". You see, I live at around 4.3km from the CO and the max I was able to get was 256Kpbs ! Not even 512Kbps ! So his target download speed is far far from realistic in Lebanon. I am sure many people have the same problem anyway.
I think my latency problem has more to do with the google server than myself. We had a what I assumed a local server and its latency was 30 ms to us. Now I ping it and get 100 and thought something was wrong with my connection. It looks like maybe they moved it out.

Anyway. I would definitely be happy if any upgrade comes and is stable (I'd like to underline is stable) And I am afraid of getting my hopes up for anything in this country, so I'll just wait and see, don't break out the champagne just yet.

The unlimited night traffic is a law passed by Sehnaoui, not a courtesy from ogero or anything like that. To stop the unlimited night traffic I think they should amend the law... It is not simple