Google is not good reference, it is anycast node :)

Not on DSL (DSL without interleaving adds 3-5ms):
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=52.2 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=52.0 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=3 ttl=50 time=52.4 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=4 ttl=50 time=52.2 ms

But i will work to make gaming pool (it exist too) same as Ogero latency.
nuclearcat wroteGoogle is not good reference, it is anycast node :)

Not on DSL (DSL without interleaving adds 3-5ms):
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=52.2 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=52.0 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=3 ttl=50 time=52.4 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=4 ttl=50 time=52.2 ms

But i will work to make gaming pool (it exist too) same as Ogero latency.

So its way than better than IDM, but still Ogero values are the best,
can we turn off interleaving with THGV, or is it an Ogero exclusive ability ?
I'm investigating that.
One of my colleagues who are head of "fine-tuning department" - in the hospital. Therefore, all such work has slowed down for a week or two. But probably i will manage to do it.
TigerFox wroteOkay so I am a bit confused. I have a phone line with ADSL active from Ogero. Now if I want to subscribe with them , I'll have to install a new phone line ? I don't understand. They mentioned fiber internet plans , but my area doesn't have fiber yet at all. How are the lines deployed ? Do they even reach all Lebanon ?
It depends on what is planned for your area. If you are going to get FTTC, the applied technology will be VDSL. As such, you need to change your ADSL router to a VDSL one. Nevertheless, you could still benefit from FTTC on an ADSL router as the speed would reach ~18Mbps.

If the plan is to deploy FTTH in your area, you would have to pay almost 200,000LBP to get the new connection. It would be a first connection fee if I am not mistaken.
2 months later
so I switched to this ISP at the beginning of the month when I canceled from wise, it took them 6 days to have it ready.
However as some of you mentioned, they are not very professional.
for starters when you call their number, there is no computer or queue. Its just 1 line and you gotta hope its not busy. had to call over 7-8 times to finally talk to an operator.
I applied via their website and put my info, they requested I send them photo id and last phone line bill via whatsapp. I rementioned in whatsapp what I was applying for (both places I requested VDSL 300gigs)
On September 7 they installed adsl, the guy installing somehow believed that max speed for VDSL is 25mb/s, I had to send picture proofs to convince him that I was getting 45mb/s from wise's vdsl.
and ever since september 7 I have been texting, calling, trying to get them to change it to VDSL, apparently the guy in charge who installed my router and was taking care of my account no longer worked their so they didnt know about it.
They don't have internet cards, so the method of payment is going to be via OMT/money transfer (not very convenient plus extra charges).
now about the quality, the speed is the max of what I would get from a adsl (20 mb/s), the latency is a bit worse than wise, but still better than my friends IDM.
Sometimes I get lag spikes, but I dont know if its the connection or because my family is using while I game, even tho I think 20mb/s should be more than enough for this connection.

As a final conclusion, I will switch to fiber once it becomes available in my area, but probably with either ogero or wise, since wise is doing a really great offer right now. (setup+modem+installation+3 months for $10) don't know how legit it is or if there's a catch, haven't called them yet, but sounds too good to be true.
a year later
Hello, while I was scrolling through my feed on instagram I stumbled upon an ad for an ISP called thglobalvision. Their offers are too good to be true: 4MB unlimited for only 66 000, open speed 500gbs for 75 000 etc. Has anyone ever tried this ISP, if so would you recommend it?
Though I feel like they are too good to be true, super fast and super cheap for Lebanon.
ZER0 wroteHello, while I was scrolling through my feed on instagram I stumbled upon an ad for an ISP called thglobalvision. Their offers are too good to be true: 4MB unlimited for only 66 000, open speed 500gbs for 75 000 etc. Has anyone ever tried this ISP, if so would you recommend it?
Though I feel like they are too good to be true, super fast and super cheap for Lebanon.
I've heard good things about them.
ZER0 wroteHello, while I was scrolling through my feed on instagram I stumbled upon an ad for an ISP called thglobalvision. Their offers are too good to be true: 4MB unlimited for only 66 000, open speed 500gbs for 75 000 etc. Has anyone ever tried this ISP, if so would you recommend it?
Though I feel like they are too good to be true, super fast and super cheap for Lebanon.
I've had daily FUP with them. VDSL has additional charge unlike most ISPs.
tmash2 wrote
ZER0 wroteHello, while I was scrolling through my feed on instagram I stumbled upon an ad for an ISP called thglobalvision. Their offers are too good to be true: 4MB unlimited for only 66 000, open speed 500gbs for 75 000 etc. Has anyone ever tried this ISP, if so would you recommend it?
Though I feel like they are too good to be true, super fast and super cheap for Lebanon.
I've had daily FUP with them. VDSL has additional charge unlike most ISPs.
The ideal package for me is open speed 300 gbs unlimited night traffic with gaming package for only 60 000. I mainly download torrents and play online and stream series. Like I said it's too good to be true, so is there any catch to it and would you recommend it?
ZER0 wrote
tmash2 wrote
ZER0 wroteHello, while I was scrolling through my feed on instagram I stumbled upon an ad for an ISP called thglobalvision. Their offers are too good to be true: 4MB unlimited for only 66 000, open speed 500gbs for 75 000 etc. Has anyone ever tried this ISP, if so would you recommend it?
Though I feel like they are too good to be true, super fast and super cheap for Lebanon.
I've had daily FUP with them. VDSL has additional charge unlike most ISPs.
The ideal package for me is open speed 300 gbs unlimited night traffic with gaming package for only 60 000. I mainly download torrents and play online and stream series. Like I said it's too good to be true, so is there any catch to it and would you recommend it?
Good support, fake unlimited, the speed goes down daily when you exceed certain limit, stick to Ogero if you want unlimited, plus most of the DSL line issues are directed at Ogero.so you're gonna have to deal with them anyways.
tmash2 wrote
ZER0 wrote
tmash2 wrote I've had daily FUP with them. VDSL has additional charge unlike most ISPs.
The ideal package for me is open speed 300 gbs unlimited night traffic with gaming package for only 60 000. I mainly download torrents and play online and stream series. Like I said it's too good to be true, so is there any catch to it and would you recommend it?
Good support, fake unlimited, the speed goes down daily when you exceed certain limit, stick to Ogero if you want unlimited, plus most of the DSL line issues are directed at Ogero.so you're gonna have to deal with them anyways.
So are the limited plans any good? And is there any catch to it because I feel like it's too cheap compared to other isps.
ZER0 wrote
tmash2 wrote
ZER0 wrote The ideal package for me is open speed 300 gbs unlimited night traffic with gaming package for only 60 000. I mainly download torrents and play online and stream series. Like I said it's too good to be true, so is there any catch to it and would you recommend it?
Good support, fake unlimited, the speed goes down daily when you exceed certain limit, stick to Ogero if you want unlimited, plus most of the DSL line issues are directed at Ogero.so you're gonna have to deal with them anyways.
So are the limited plans any good? And is there any catch to it because I feel like it's too cheap compared to other isps.
I wouldn't mind the FUP if the budget is very low, can't have free lunch. Donno about other plans.
Also hint, at THGV fup applied dynamically and fairly, if bandwidth are "full", unlike other ISPs where they have everything static, even they have lot of capacity free.
At lockdown, unfortunately, it plays a bit negative role as FUP is calculated from early morning, but still better than others, as its not 24h. It releases after school for a while and at night, on lower load.
nuclearcat wroteAlso hint, at THGV fup applied dynamically and fairly, if bandwidth are "full", unlike other ISPs where they have everything static, even they have lot of capacity free.
At lockdown, unfortunately, it plays a bit negative role as FUP is calculated from early morning, but still better than others, as its not 24h. It releases after school for a while and at night, on lower load.
What about the limited plans? Ever tried them and are they any good? I know I keep saying this but it's too good to be true. I'm currently subscribed to sodetel with 150 gbs open speed and unlimited night traffic for 67 000. How is THGV selling a plan 300 gbs unlimited night traffic for 60 000? It sounds absurd! Why would we ever ever subscribe to other isps if they are this cheap? Hope it doesn't have a catch to it because I want to change isps and this deal is just perfect
ZER0 wrote
nuclearcat wroteAlso hint, at THGV fup applied dynamically and fairly, if bandwidth are "full", unlike other ISPs where they have everything static, even they have lot of capacity free.
At lockdown, unfortunately, it plays a bit negative role as FUP is calculated from early morning, but still better than others, as its not 24h. It releases after school for a while and at night, on lower load.
What about the limited plans? Ever tried them and are they any good? I know I keep saying this but it's too good to be true. I'm currently subscribed to sodetel with 150 gbs open speed and unlimited night traffic for 67 000. How is THGV selling a plan 300 gbs unlimited night traffic for 60 000? It sounds absurd! Why would we ever ever subscribe to other isps if they are this cheap? Hope it doesn't have a catch to it because I want to change isps and this deal is just perfect
Please note that nuclearcat works/worked for THGV AFAIK unless I'm mistaken, no offense, it's good to know how FUP works, thanks.
ZER0 wrote
nuclearcat wroteAlso hint, at THGV fup applied dynamically and fairly, if bandwidth are "full", unlike other ISPs where they have everything static, even they have lot of capacity free.
At lockdown, unfortunately, it plays a bit negative role as FUP is calculated from early morning, but still better than others, as its not 24h. It releases after school for a while and at night, on lower load.
What about the limited plans? Ever tried them and are they any good? I know I keep saying this but it's too good to be true. I'm currently subscribed to sodetel with 150 gbs open speed and unlimited night traffic for 67 000. How is THGV selling a plan 300 gbs unlimited night traffic for 60 000? It sounds absurd! Why would we ever ever subscribe to other isps if they are this cheap? Hope it doesn't have a catch to it because I want to change isps and this deal is just perfect
I have no idea. Yes, I do some of the tasks in THGV (as well as in some other operators), as freelancer, but i don't even have a clue about the final picture of settings or plans available, and i don't know exactly the current policies on restrictions, traffic, etc.
My guess is early sale discounts, owner want to have more DSL users.
And i didn’t mind, because people are funny, they think with clichés "ogero is better, because they are at source of internet in Lebanon", so i dont expect them will come en masse.
But THGV has enough some resources that it will give away for free or at a discount, such as many local offloading CDN servers, while others (including Ogero) will charge you money for each byte.
nuclearcat wrote
ZER0 wrote
nuclearcat wroteAlso hint, at THGV fup applied dynamically and fairly, if bandwidth are "full", unlike other ISPs where they have everything static, even they have lot of capacity free.
At lockdown, unfortunately, it plays a bit negative role as FUP is calculated from early morning, but still better than others, as its not 24h. It releases after school for a while and at night, on lower load.
What about the limited plans? Ever tried them and are they any good? I know I keep saying this but it's too good to be true. I'm currently subscribed to sodetel with 150 gbs open speed and unlimited night traffic for 67 000. How is THGV selling a plan 300 gbs unlimited night traffic for 60 000? It sounds absurd! Why would we ever ever subscribe to other isps if they are this cheap? Hope it doesn't have a catch to it because I want to change isps and this deal is just perfect
I have no idea. Yes, I do some of the tasks in THGV (as well as in some other operators), as freelancer, but i don't even have a clue about the final picture of settings or plans available, and i don't know exactly the current policies on restrictions, traffic, etc.
My guess is early sale discounts, owner want to have more DSL users.
And i didn’t mind, because people are funny, they think with clichés "ogero is better, because they are at source of internet in Lebanon", so i dont expect them will come en masse.
But THGV has enough some resources that it will give away for free or at a discount, such as many local offloading CDN servers, while others (including Ogero) will charge you money for each byte.
Lower latency, real unlimited (over 1TB at 4Mbit unlm. plan) are not cliché. These are commonly shared findings from people and on this forum, not ISPs defamation attempts... 1mbit is not a real internet speed these days after exceeding 8GB per day from your dear company... YouTube and Netflix weren't offloaded either, only certain titles from Steam and few non encrypted sources (HTTP/FTP), not really a CDN, more like caching.
The unlimited plan seems to be useful for kids or when you can't control the traffic and the budget is very low, while still having a somewhat usable accessible internet.
Wish I didn't read this before I applied: https://lebgeeks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=18817
tmash2 wrote Lower latency, real unlimited (over 1TB at 4Mbit unlm. plan) are not cliché. These are commonly shared findings from people and on this forum, not ISPs defamation attempts... 1mbit is not a real internet speed these days after exceeding 8GB per day from your dear company... YouTube and Netflix weren't offloaded either, only certain titles from Steam and few non encrypted sources (HTTP/FTP), not really a CDN, more like caching.
The unlimited plan seems to be useful for kids or when you can't control the traffic and the budget is very low, while still having a somewhat usable accessible internet.
Wish I didn't read this before I applied: https://lebgeeks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=18817
Latency might be lower, 5-15ms, this is factually correct, but for whom does it matter, besides nerds who spend half their lives playing dota and other shooters?

P.S. with Ogero you rely on the choice of their administrators, and if you are not satisfied with the latency/loss of specific backbone serving your NAT pool, you have not much choice. And sometimes it is downright crap, for example when they had problems with opentransit. YMMV.
THGV has gaming pool option, or tunneled traffic option, for more optimal routing and we provide customers with the opportunity to enable these tariff options. But i admit, on average Ogero latency is less, as i said in few ms, and less hassle to get this lower latency.
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4Mbit real unlimited. It's cool. But with a bunch of BUT.
1) Your upload is asymmetrical. Hello video conferencing, unless you do it alone.
2)1 Terabyte? Haha. With one caveat, while you are downloading this terabyte - you are suffering from a crappy Internet, since you have your funny 4Mbit congested. Ogero has no QoS, just a fifo on the DSLAM.
In addition, THGV has users who download hundreds of terabytes. Of course, they will not be able to download them at peak hours, since the cost of traffic for private operators is much higher, but we provide this opportunity at night (unlimited).

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Highlighted in bold is factually incorrect or blunt lie.
I am aware specifically about offloading on THGV, and I can say that THGV has one of the largest number(in Lebanon) of CDN nodes installed.
In order to talk about traffic offloaded or not, you need to have necessary experience on topic, otherwise you dishonor yourself with illiterate statements.
I am ready to provide evidence in a private chat, with an independent arbiter who understands this specific field after signing the NDA, but on the word that after providing conclusive evidence - you admit in forum publicly, that you draw conclusions without the necessary qualification to do so.
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Unlimited plan for kids?
Oh well. Tell that to all non-tech-savvy people(majority of users) and especially large families with a dozen devices, that on top of all the problems in Lebanon, they need to watch and count the traffic on every device and every family member, to not have crazy bills at next month or internet cut off early.
I remember a conference on investment in Lebanon several years ago, when an investor from England spoke and said - what the hell is the internet in Lebanon, in which you need to throw coins like an ancient telephone booth for the amount of Internet so that it continues to work. Service plans with traffic counting are an atavism. It might do in some cases with mobile internet, but its dead wrong for fixed plans.
My own experience
Caution, take with a grain of salt.

I wasn't able to exceed 200GB per month incl. night downloads and that was usual Netflix and Youtube combo by 2 members in the house, throttled like shit every day, like you said never really reached 1TB on Ogero that was a hint what unlimited truly means, while I average 400-600GB now on Ogero 4MBit w/o slowdowns. (peaked 800GB)
Also, last time I had a problem with the line (due to rain) they directed me to Ogero anyways, Ogero's phone support is at least responsive from my experience, although useless but not neglectful, and not having to call all day is a plus. Another incident was due to an Ogero network issue when I called THGV support, they replied: "problem is with Ogero not us, wait 2 hours".

And no, there is a huge bufferbloat on downloads if that is what you mean by QoS? 2 thread download halted the internet as well not just latency. And yeah the additional latency is around 15ms, way more (25-40ish) during peak hours no-load, unlike Ogero which never changes in comparison (Ogero has bufferbloat issue too), although the packet loss is good on THGV compared to my old Terranet. "Nerds spend half their lives on shooters"? What? It affects many things, including VoIP and video chats, especially if it varies, plus I was answering ZER0 regarding gaming, this also affects casual games, even browser games! I play RL around 2 hours a week and that was unplayable due to variation and spikes.

"THGV has users who download hundreds of terabytes" ooookay, I wouldn't be able to do that on 300M Fiber back in UAE. You mean yearly? But you were talking monthly (Ogero) in a relative context. Or you phrased that wrong, sum of all users? Ogero is leaps ahead for sure as you mentioned in another post.

"1) Your upload is asymmetrical. Hello video conferencing, unless you do it alone." How's that related? How's THGV better in this regard? I got the same 1MBit upload, we're talking ADSL here. Plus your page says that 50/10mbit VDSL service is that symmetrical? Do you mean ADSL Annex M? I wasn't offered that either, but that's still (barely) asymmetric for 4mbit download 2-3 up no?
This was just my personal experience (and) as reported by multiple users on this forum, no offense intended, maybe it's just bad luck?


The last two paragraphs are pretty shocking and unexpected to be honest... I'm sorry that you took it the wrong way. I just didn't see any speed increase as you mentioned in the THGV feedback post, you mean deduct from plan usage? Either way I was on an unlimited 4MBit plan and that was just my experience and I didn't get any of that CDN boost as an end-user, not the only one to report that either though take it with a grain of salt. The boost acted like any local wireless ISP in the past, only unencrypted connections. THGV never mentioned CDN as a feature anywhere unless I'm mistaken.

Edit:"YouTube and Netflix weren't offloaded either, only certain titles from Steam and few non-encrypted sources (HTTP/FTP), not really a CDN, more like caching." My feedback as a user, I could be wrong about CDNs, but I'm not speaking on behalf of the company or saying "THGV does not use CDNs" Your feedback post explained what a CDN service offers with THGV and my conclusion came from not meeting the criteria you noted, and didn't get any of it's benefits, so I didn't get "CDN" as a feature, I got simple caching. Please enlighten us. YouTube or Netflix as well as other not very popular sites weren't offloaded speed-wise, and you mentioned that Content Delivery Networks offloads these...

"factually correct" based on what? I didn't mention any facts, and this is up to the end-user to report their experiences, they aren't facts either, they're feedback, usually, you analyze reports like any other user when applying for a service, especially in this country, I actually subscribed to the service due to your positive and well-versed input on the feedback page and thought I'd give it a try... Didn't work for me maybe it works for others! I'm not dishonoring myself by providing my feedback, never went against facts...

Mods should sticky that THGV Feedback post or move these, I hate to derail and clutter more.

Good talk!