LebGeeks

NuclearVision

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

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Approx Lebanon lagging at 2003-2004

Perhaps i misunderstood, but 1 Mbps is around 10$ nowadays, this brings up to 2008!)) Did you consider the quota?
edit: i think i get it now, is it not costumer price?

what he means it the dedicated speed which is sold as E1 in lebanon ( E1=2Mbps and cost 250$)
so 1Mbps is 125$ ( although you can't buy it alone )

Ah well thanks.
But as i understand, isps buy those from ogero.
Abroad, they buy it from the state? isn't there some kind of private infrastructure? How does it, in such case, compare?

nuclearcat

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Giving all details of Lebanese licensing and stuff probably will take several pages, i'm not ready for that. But i think Lebanon has one of most inefficient and outdated laws regarding telecom.

Silentcontrol

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Most countries have private isps that anyone can buy from but they rarely sell E1 since it is really outdated they sell something can't recall the name but i know its a 150 Mbps and it costs on average 40$. Lebanon on the the other side is based on monopoly so only the government is allowed to provide Internet to the country that is why we have those high prices and bad connection : 1 there is no competition
2 do you know anything that the gouvernament runs that is not broken or corrupted ( electricity, trash,...)

nuclearcat

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

155Mbps is STM1, noone use this terms this days, as E1, unless it is some old setup. It is synchronous channels suitable for "old style" telephony.
Everywhere in decent countries bandwidth sold by Mbps.

dav

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

most of the world is on symmetrical fiber optics broadband connections and we still use the adsl standards....enough to explain our situation....we are veryyy far away from other countries

edit: i see that minister boutros harb didnt had enough to stop going forward... he ruined what nicolas sehnaoui started...

Last edited by dav (June 3 2016)

MrClass

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

most of the world is on symmetrical fiber optics broadband connections and we still use the adsl standards....enough to explain our situation....we are veryyy far away from other countries

edit: i see that minister boutros harb didnt had enough to stop going forward... he ruined what nicolas sehnaoui started...

Very sad really. Yesterday Etisalat upgraded my Internet speed at home for free. 10Mbps to 20Mbps. Never had to complain about performance issues ever. Such a relief really.

Corruption in Lebanon, will it ever end?

Last edited by MrClass (June 3 2016)

dav

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

most of the world is on symmetrical fiber optics broadband connections and we still use the adsl standards....enough to explain our situation....we are veryyy far away from other countries

edit: i see that minister boutros harb didnt had enough to stop going forward... he ruined what nicolas sehnaoui started...

Very sad really. Yesterday Etisalat upgraded my Internet speed at home for free. 10Mbps to 20Mbps. Never had to complain about performance issues ever. Such a relief really.

Corruption in Lebanon, will it ever end?

i really don't know what to say...

Adnan

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Today I noticed that my modem started syncing on ADSL2+ after being on ADSL1 for more than a year.
I was expecting the max rate to increase but it only got worse (was 8Mbps now is 6 to 8), and the SNR is dropping between 11 and 6.

I tried re-syncing on ADSL1 (G.DMT) but apparently it got much worse, I could only get 3.5Mbps out of my 4.

Last edited by Adnan (June 15 2016)

LifeEngineer

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Today I noticed that my modem started syncing on ADSL2+ after being on ADSL1 for more than a year.
I was expecting the max rate to increase but it only got worse (was 8Mbps now is 6 to 8), and the SNR is dropping between 11 and 6.

I tried re-syncing on ADSL1 (G.DMT) but apparently it got much worse, I could only get 3.5Mbps out of my 4.

Allow me to tell you sir that you're living in heaven.

random-username

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Today I noticed that my modem started syncing on ADSL2+ after being on ADSL1 for more than a year.
I was expecting the max rate to increase but it only got worse (was 8Mbps now is 6 to 8), and the SNR is dropping between 11 and 6.

I tried re-syncing on ADSL1 (G.DMT) but apparently it got much worse, I could only get 3.5Mbps out of my 4.

Allow me to tell you sir that you're living in heaven.

Lemme post this real quick

Max Rate (Kbps)    Up 1056    Down 14764

Adnan

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Today I noticed that my modem started syncing on ADSL2+ after being on ADSL1 for more than a year.
I was expecting the max rate to increase but it only got worse (was 8Mbps now is 6 to 8), and the SNR is dropping between 11 and 6.

I tried re-syncing on ADSL1 (G.DMT) but apparently it got much worse, I could only get 3.5Mbps out of my 4.

Allow me to tell you sir that you're living in heaven.

Lemme post this real quick

Max Rate (Kbps)    Up 1056    Down 14764

Wow, ADSL paradise!

AVOlio

Member

Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Today I noticed that my modem started syncing on ADSL2+ after being on ADSL1 for more than a year.
I was expecting the max rate to increase but it only got worse (was 8Mbps now is 6 to 8), and the SNR is dropping between 11 and 6.

I tried re-syncing on ADSL1 (G.DMT) but apparently it got much worse, I could only get 3.5Mbps out of my 4.

Allow me to tell you sir that you're living in heaven.

Lemme post this real quick

Max Rate (Kbps)    Up 1056    Down 14764

I concur

Maximum Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]:    1.185 / 23.388   

But ya ret it will be applied. lol

Kazouza

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Maximum Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]:    1.185 / 23.388   

But ya ret it will be applied. lol

What modem do you use? What firmware? And did you update it?
I'm asking cause I don't have the max rate thingy.

Last edited by Kazouza (June 15 2016)

LifeEngineer

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Lemme post this real quick

Max Rate (Kbps)    Up 1056    Down 14764

Lemme post this real quick

Max Rate (Kbps)    Up <512    Down 1056 max

LifeEngineer

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

How do you get those speed guys?!

BTW i don't have a phone line, and can't have. The building doesn't have any landline box and i applied like 3 years ago and no one contacted me yet.
My neighbor in facing building advised me to not get DSL anyways coz it's so slow!

I'm on cable now! Paying 25$ for unlimited 1mpbs (FUP like hell in the day; no FUP from 12am to 12pm).

Last edited by LifeEngineer (June 16 2016)

dav

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

i am the opposite...lol... i got removed after 1 year subscription from adsl2+ and put back to g.dmt even though i can get the 4 mbps on both ways... my stats on adsl2+ were 1.3mbps up and 16mbps down... now on g.dmt i'm at 1.2mbps up and 7.4-8.4 mbps down.... however i haven't noticed any change in ping or quality of service... does anyone know who to contact to put me back on adsl2+?

Last edited by dav (June 17 2016)

Adnan

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

What I noticed about ping is that it increased by 10 to 20ms after the switch to ADSL2+. I thought it had to do with the interleaving mode, so I switched to ADSL1 again (which only has fast mode as far as I know), but nothing changed. Not too bad, still acceptable for gaming.

Kazouza

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

I would really like to know how you guys manage to see what your max rate is. If it's just a firmware upgrade, then which and how would be amazing to know as well. I'd be grateful if I could get some help.

This is what mine looks like: http://prntscr.com/bhj9e7 System Information: http://prntscr.com/bhj9vg

Adnan

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

I would really like to know how you guys manage to see what your max rate is. If it's just a firmware upgrade, then which and how would be amazing to know as well. I'd be grateful if I could get some help.

This is what mine looks like: http://prntscr.com/bhj9e7 System Information: http://prntscr.com/bhj9vg

I don't know if it's possible on your modem. But you can still get an estimate using online calculators. I tested your stats (downstream attenuation) on these three tools and the estimates were around 2.5Mbps (for ADSL2 and ADSL2+).

http://www.coolwebhome.co.uk/calc/index … 4gMg==#res
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/626639
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/max_speed_calc.php

Note however that the max speed doesn't mean that it's attainable. Even though my modem shows up to 8Mbps max rate, Sodetel turned down my request to upgrade.

Last edited by Adnan (June 17 2016)

dav

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

I would really like to know how you guys manage to see what your max rate is. If it's just a firmware upgrade, then which and how would be amazing to know as well. I'd be grateful if I could get some help.

This is what mine looks like: http://prntscr.com/bhj9e7 System Information: http://prntscr.com/bhj9vg

I don't know if it's possible on your modem. But you can still get an estimate using online calculators. I tested your stats (downstream attenuation) on these three tools and the estimates were around 2.5Mbps (for ADSL2 and ADSL2+).

http://www.coolwebhome.co.uk/calc/index … 4gMg==#res
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/626639
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/max_speed_calc.php

Note however that the max speed doesn't mean that it's attainable. Even though my modem shows up to 8Mbps max rate, Sodetel turned down my request to upgrade.

it’s because your snr will drop like hell when you upgrade the speed... around 5db for each mb...and you should maintain an snr margin > 15db after the upgrade so you don’t get disconnected frequently...

Adnan

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

I would really like to know how you guys manage to see what your max rate is. If it's just a firmware upgrade, then which and how would be amazing to know as well. I'd be grateful if I could get some help.

This is what mine looks like: http://prntscr.com/bhj9e7 System Information: http://prntscr.com/bhj9vg

I don't know if it's possible on your modem. But you can still get an estimate using online calculators. I tested your stats (downstream attenuation) on these three tools and the estimates were around 2.5Mbps (for ADSL2 and ADSL2+).

http://www.coolwebhome.co.uk/calc/index … 4gMg==#res
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/626639
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/max_speed_calc.php

Note however that the max speed doesn't mean that it's attainable. Even though my modem shows up to 8Mbps max rate, Sodetel turned down my request to upgrade.

it’s because your snr will drop like hell when you upgrade the speed... around 5db for each mb...and you should maintain an snr margin > 15db after the upgrade so you don’t get disconnected frequently...

Yep, that's right. That's why I wondered why these calculators don't ask for the SNR margin, because my max rate varies slightly depending on the current SNR margin.

My SNR margin is usually around 10 - 11dB. Sometimes it drops to 6 but the CRC errors counter skyrockets.

dav

Member

Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

I don't know if it's possible on your modem. But you can still get an estimate using online calculators. I tested your stats (downstream attenuation) on these three tools and the estimates were around 2.5Mbps (for ADSL2 and ADSL2+).

http://www.coolwebhome.co.uk/calc/index … 4gMg==#res
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/626639
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/max_speed_calc.php

Note however that the max speed doesn't mean that it's attainable. Even though my modem shows up to 8Mbps max rate, Sodetel turned down my request to upgrade.

it’s because your snr will drop like hell when you upgrade the speed... around 5db for each mb...and you should maintain an snr margin > 15db after the upgrade so you don’t get disconnected frequently...

Yep, that's right. That's why I wondered why these calculators don't ask for the SNR margin, because my max rate varies slightly depending on the current SNR margin.

My SNR margin is usually around 10 - 11dB. Sometimes it drops to 6 but the CRC errors counter skyrockets.

yepp 6db is low... 10-11 db is acceptable... will lag in bad weather or some other circumstances... i prefer to stay above 15db to be on the very safe side... i'm at 25db and i have the 4mbps plan... this means i can get the 6mbps at max..

Last edited by dav (June 17 2016)

Truepeace

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Are you facing unusual high ping and lag while playing? I noticed it this weekend with my Terranet DSL but with an Ogero dsl it was fine. I called Terranet they said many are calling complaining about that and it is because of high traffic at the centrales.. And today also on the Ogero dsl I had 300-400-500 ping.. (playing Smite)

Doom

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

The ministry is planning on lowering internet prices!!
Source:boutros harb's facebook page.

elchebib

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Thats a very good thing if they are serious about it.

But where are the new speeds? Internet content has been getting bigger and bigger in size. With more HD content and streaming services gaining traction around the world, staying at the current speeds would lag Lebanon even far behind (although I can't see where can we go even more behind than what we are at right now)

And with decreasing prices, more people would want to use the ADSL service which will put more strain on the network. Its already barely keeping up, if at all, to the demand of the current users.