Raficoo wrote
julesb91 wrotehey guys, can you give me some of your opinions about which isp is the most stable and provides good latencies.
From my experience I can say Ogero provides one of the most(if not the top) stable connections.. In terms of latency, Ogero's latency is good(90-120ms) in games but I've heard other ISPs provide a ping just as good or even better but stability wise Ogero is one of the top.
oh im sorry i forgot to mention that i want wireless broadband internet not dsl.. its between Sodetel/IDM/Terranet
julesb91 wrote
Raficoo wrote
julesb91 wrotehey guys, can you give me some of your opinions about which isp is the most stable and provides good latencies.
From my experience I can say Ogero provides one of the most(if not the top) stable connections.. In terms of latency, Ogero's latency is good(90-120ms) in games but I've heard other ISPs provide a ping just as good or even better but stability wise Ogero is one of the top.
oh im sorry i forgot to mention that i want wireless broadband internet not dsl.. its between Sodetel/IDM/Terranet
Theres no good latency in wireless broadband
so there is no solution other than dsl? i don't have a land line and can't get one
2 months later
I have been noticing very good improvements in latency lately. The most surprising part is that the ping to my ISP is 4 times lower than it used to be.
I would like to know if anyone is experiencing this ? And could it mean anything in the near future ?
adnan@Debian:~$ ping www.sodetel.net.lb -c 10
PING www.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=13.6 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=2 ttl=59 time=9.42 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=3 ttl=59 time=9.12 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=4 ttl=59 time=10.2 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=5 ttl=59 time=10.6 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=6 ttl=59 time=12.7 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=7 ttl=59 time=9.31 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=8 ttl=59 time=10.3 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=9 ttl=59 time=9.50 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=10 ttl=59 time=11.7 ms

--- www.sodetel.net.lb ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9014ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 9.125/10.670/13.651/1.471 ms
Latencies to common websites vary from 40ms to 80ms.
Adnan wroteI have been noticing very good improvements in latency lately. The most surprising part is that the ping to my ISP is 4 times lower than it used to be.
I would like to know if anyone is experiencing this ? And could it mean anything in the near future ?
adnan@Debian:~$ ping www.sodetel.net.lb -c 10
PING www.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=13.6 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=2 ttl=59 time=9.42 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=3 ttl=59 time=9.12 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=4 ttl=59 time=10.2 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=5 ttl=59 time=10.6 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=6 ttl=59 time=12.7 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=7 ttl=59 time=9.31 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=8 ttl=59 time=10.3 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=9 ttl=59 time=9.50 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=10 ttl=59 time=11.7 ms

--- www.sodetel.net.lb ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9014ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 9.125/10.670/13.651/1.471 ms
Latencies to common websites vary from 40ms to 80ms.

seems good, can you plz ping 8.8.8.8 and bbc.co.uk ?
Here you go:
--- www.bbc.net.uk ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9012ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 66.603/67.357/69.254/0.794 ms

--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4003ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 62.100/63.977/66.863/1.611 ms
Adnan wroteHere you go:
--- www.bbc.net.uk ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9012ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 66.603/67.357/69.254/0.794 ms

--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4003ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 62.100/63.977/66.863/1.611 ms

And you are in Tripoli? that's awesome dude. My ping results are ~120 !!
Mine used to be like this too. My CO is in Tripoli Tell and I'm synced on G.DMT (ADSL). Are you synced on ADSL2+ ? What's your CO ?
Adnan wroteMine used to be like this too. My CO is in Tripoli Tell and I'm synced on G.DMT (ADSL). Are you synced on ADSL2+ ? What's your CO ?
Pretty much the same.
CO: Tall
ISP: Wise
Location: Zahriye
Mode: forgot what is it, I will dig in modem today and try different ADSL modes and also ADSL2

Also I'm little concerned about my phone line, so I will change it.
Here I have 3 options for it:
1- run a regular phone cable (CAT 3) externally from box to appartment
2- run a CAT6/CAT5e cable the same way, but here getting advantage of the cable quality and twists
3- install the dsl modem right next to the phone box, it willl be enclosed with a protective box. The phone line will run to the box, plugged in to the splitter that I will put there, the dsl port will be directly connected to the modem, and the other phone port will be connected back to the current in-wall cables back to the appartment. Finally I will run a CAT6/CAT5e from the modem downstairs right up to my apartment and connected to the router in home.

What do you think? Should I open a separate thread for this to discuss it?
m_zeid wrote
Adnan wroteMine used to be like this too. My CO is in Tripoli Tell and I'm synced on G.DMT (ADSL). Are you synced on ADSL2+ ? What's your CO ?
Pretty much the same.
CO: Tall
ISP: Wise
Location: Zahriye
Mode: forgot what is it, I will dig in modem today and try different ADSL modes and also ADSL2

Also I'm little concerned about my phone line, so I will change it.
Here I have 3 options for it:
1- run a regular phone cable (CAT 3) externally from box to appartment
2- run a CAT6/CAT5e cable the same way, but here getting advantage of the cable quality and twists
3- install the dsl modem right next to the phone box, it willl be enclosed with a protective box. The phone line will run to the box, plugged in to the splitter that I will put there, the dsl port will be directly connected to the modem, and the other phone port will be connected back to the current in-wall cables back to the appartment. Finally I will run a CAT6/CAT5e from the modem downstairs right up to my apartment and connected to the router in home.

What do you think? Should I open a separate thread for this to discuss it?
Post the stats of your modem, the SNR and those stuff. Then we can see if there is a problem with your line
makhoder wrote
m_zeid wrote
Adnan wroteMine used to be like this too. My CO is in Tripoli Tell and I'm synced on G.DMT (ADSL). Are you synced on ADSL2+ ? What's your CO ?
Pretty much the same.
CO: Tall
ISP: Wise
Location: Zahriye
Mode: forgot what is it, I will dig in modem today and try different ADSL modes and also ADSL2

Also I'm little concerned about my phone line, so I will change it.
Here I have 3 options for it:
1- run a regular phone cable (CAT 3) externally from box to appartment
2- run a CAT6/CAT5e cable the same way, but here getting advantage of the cable quality and twists
3- install the dsl modem right next to the phone box, it willl be enclosed with a protective box. The phone line will run to the box, plugged in to the splitter that I will put there, the dsl port will be directly connected to the modem, and the other phone port will be connected back to the current in-wall cables back to the appartment. Finally I will run a CAT6/CAT5e from the modem downstairs right up to my apartment and connected to the router in home.

What do you think? Should I open a separate thread for this to discuss it?
Post the stats of your modem, the SNR and those stuff. Then we can see if there is a problem with your line
I don't think SNR and attenuation is the only parameters to affect latency. Anyway I will post them later today.

Yet another thing I forgot to mention, that a friend also subscribed with Wise dsl and also from Tripoli with CO is Tall, and the same plan
So we are basically the same in every thing. But his ping results to 8.8.8.8 and bbc.co.uk gives ~80s like 87 and 88. That freaked/pissed me !

On the other side, my neighbor subscribed with ogero dsl and has latency slightly better than mine but still above 110 ms

can it be our DSLAM and neighborhood connections causing this?
The stats can show us if you are in FAST (lower latency) or interleaved (higher latency). Here I have OGERO 6-8MB, also CO Tripoli Tall
I have ping 70ms to 8.8.8.8 and 65ms to www.google.com
guys whats the cost to setup a fixed phone line?
ballad wroteguys whats the cost to setup a fixed phone line?
no cost at all, used to be like 50,000 i think, but MoT changed that to free
m_zeid wrote
ballad wroteguys whats the cost to setup a fixed phone line?
no cost at all, used to be like 50,000 i think, but MoT changed that to free
that's nice to hear
and whats the approx time to setup a phone line and an ogero dsl connection?
ballad wrote
m_zeid wrote
ballad wroteguys whats the cost to setup a fixed phone line?
no cost at all, used to be like 50,000 i think, but MoT changed that to free
that's nice to hear
and whats the approx time to setup a phone line and an ogero dsl connection?
A line took me 1 week , even less but ADSL can vary from 2 weeks until 1month and a half,
Mine here took less than 2 weeks when I first got the old 2M/20GB last year
15 days later
Does anyone know of any wireless solution that I can use to play online games with respectable latency?
I can't use DSL Coz my phone line cannot support more than a128k speed connection (ogero's reasoning for that is that I live far from the central.. I live in awkar and central is in antelias smh), and the local cable here has a ping of 500+ ms using speedtest, even though I'm using his best type of accounts.
I'd appreciate the help guys. Thanks.
I would say try mobi or any of the relatives .. they maybe expensive but when i had the ping was about 130-150ms .. free download at night .. please make sure you have a good signal where you live before you buy because it is expensive
5 months later
guys can you please post your pings in games like CS:GO and ISP/Plan and location.

Example:
Game: League of Legends
Ping: 105
ISP: Cyberia
Plan: 6MB
Location: Hazmiyeh
Game: Any game with Europe Servers
Ping: 60-75 (depends on location)
ISP: Ogero
Plan: 6MB-8MB/60gb
Location: Tripoli tall