Dear LebGeeks Gamers, it had come to my attention that a lot of you have problems getting legal games, for current consoles & PC, due to high prices & unavailability of certain games, either boxed or digitally. & with the availability of many shipping services, a lot of problems may occur with shipments, such as delays, delivery of some items & others at different times which cause paying clearance twice or trice for the same order , jamarek & VAT defers per order & aren't stable, & many other problems that might happen ,etc..

So I'm trying to develop a way to help you in get items from outside Lebanon, with deliveries right at your door step, & for that I need test subjects who are willing to help me with this, so far a couple of guys have stepped up & are willing to help but I need more.

By test subjects I mean those that are open minded & understandable & willing & would bare with me if delays and problems happen, as I need you to order games or console accessories from amazon.

I am willing to help you guys as much as you need, no matter what the requests are, we can find a solution.

You can contact me via email or pm.

Edit: Flakk got my attention to the idea that I should inform you, that by test subjects it doesn't mean that you are risking in never receiving the items, since all shipments are insured to be received.

Edit #2: Hambozah got to my attention that I should inform you that 1st you have to email your requests so that I can calculate how much shipping will costs, & also shipping costs defer per order size & price, but it can be calculated.

Edit #3: enthralled got to my attention, that i should inform you that if an item was damaged or have a problem with it, it wont be shipped & rather it will be sent back to the sender & a replacement will be sent instead before shipping to Lebanon.

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Edit #4: Test Reults


TEST RESULTS

Hello, everyone, I'd like to inform you that I finished testing, & the results were good, the Prices that I estimated were correct (-/+) some $s, and I was able to come out with a couple of good ideas as well.

These were the tests done:
enthralled - 1 LG BluRay RW for 110$ ==> I estimated a price of ~160$ he had to finally pay 165$

Hamboza - lot of cell phone accessories & an Audio Amplifier for Earphones, 3 x 3D 4Discs Bluray moves, I estimated a price of 214$ he had to pay 216$
as well as a CD Key for Crysis 2 to be activated on EA Download Manager for 35$

swifty (he isn't a lebgeek member) he ordered cell phone accessories & MoH 2010. I gave him a price of 110$
& he had to finally pay 100$, i returned to him the rest $s, also with his amazon purchase of MoH 2010, he received a free invite to BF3 beta available later this year.

*both hamboza & swifty cell phone items, were not available in Lebanon, so getting them was a good deal for them. & swifty was very happy that he also received the free BF3 Beta !!! & the 3D Movies for hamboza aren't available at any retailers in Lebanon, not even in there normal versions.

Austin316 (he isn't a lebgeek member), he ordered CD Key for Crysis 2 to be activated on EA Download Manager for 35$

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I'd like to thank enthralled & hamboza for testing this service with me. as well to Soldier for giving me some help with the website that I made. & for enthralled as well for his gifs/images & support.
& for hamboza for everything that he did, which I cant even count.

you can check the website for further information.

And as for you doubters, I hope you change your mind, & try me when you want to.
is the plan limited to console games, or purchasing computer hardware is also included?
If the Internet speed increased in the upcoming months as the government promised us, then I think the problem will be solved. Lebanese will buy and download all the legal softwares they want... shipping DVDs will be something from the past...
Samer99 wroteIf the Internet speed increased in the upcoming months as the government promised us, then I think the problem will be solved. Lebanese will buy and download all the legal softwares they want... shipping DVDs will be something from the past...
We all know how do the government promises end, anyway there is no harm in trying.
MrClass wroteis the plan limited to console games, or purchasing computer hardware is also included?
I think we can do that ...
So the test subject buys games from you and waits for them to come to him?
@Shatilov Can You give me your e-mail please?
dan961 wrote@Shatilov Can You give me your e-mail please?
Shatilian_people@hotmail.com, you can also talk to me on Xfire & Steam
omarmasri wroteSo the test subject buys games from you and waits for them to come to him ?????????????????
Pretty much yes,

he tells me the games he wants from Amazon

I tell him the final price including shipping & Jamarek etc... ,

he pays, wait,

I deliver,

he play ...

Edit : Flakk got my attention to the idea that I should inform you, that by test subjects it doesn't mean that you are risking in never receiving the items, since all shipments are insured to be received.
I already have a list of PC games that i want from Amazon, i'll send it to you.
I am more then willing to do this , But i have to ask , and i'm asking cause i have had TERRIBLE experiences with the lebanese customs , How are you gonna work that out ? cause sometimes Customs just go for the "loot" .
Like can you give us an estimate of the total price before you order it ?
And is the payment done After i recieve the "item" in question or After ?

Sorry for the Paranoia but Customs Sometimes charge you for a total that is superior then what you have already paid for the order+ shipping .........
That sounds a great idea but i agree with ranibalaa how will you estimate the duty since the shipping companies also don't know about it.
I have never tried it I usually ship my stuff to my cousins and wait for someone to come but it would be helpful if you give us an idea about the pricing.
This would be great but what about other stuff like phones, pc hardware... if you can ship these as well it would be great
haidcar wroteThis would be great but what about other stuff like phones, pc hardware... if you can ship these as well it would be great
as I've said in an earlier post, everything can be discussed...
ranibalaa wrotehow can you calculate the jamarek?
tufi2 wroteThat sounds a great idea but i agree with ranibalaa how will you estimate the duty since the shipping companies also don't know about it.
I have never tried it I usually ship my stuff to my cousins and wait for someone to come but it would be helpful if you give us an idea about the pricing.
Devaz wroteLike can you give us an estimate of the total price before you order it ?
And is the payment done After i recieve the "item" in question or After ?
According to my experience the jamarek can be calculated after the shipment arrives, but according to the weight of the items & their price & their shipping price in the US, I am able to give you an estimate of the jamarek. so in the end it could be a -/+ 10$ from my calculation.

The full payment is done before I order the item.
Devaz wroteI am more then willing to do this , But i have to ask , and i'm asking cause i have had TERRIBLE experiences with the lebanese customs , How are you gonna work that out ? cause sometimes Customs just go for the "loot" .
Sorry for the Paranoia but Customs Sometimes charge you for a total that is superior then what you have already paid for the order+ shipping .........
You have every right to have Paranoia, if you search in the Forum's Topic, you could see my Rant/Issue with Aramex & UPS shipping service as well as to custom clearance.
These are some of the issues that we could get into, thats why i need you to be open-minded, & as I've stated in my Post, That I am willing to help with everything, I wont say tough luck, no I will help as best as I can.
Hamboza wroteI already have a list of PC games that i want from Amazon, i'll send it to you.
Ok, then hamboza, whenever you are ready to test, I'll help you.


In the end, I'm trying to do this for us.

Edit #2: Hambozah got to my attention that I should inform you that 1st you have to email your requests so that I can calculate how much shipping will costs, & also shipping costs defer per order size & price, but it can be calculated.
THIS IS GREAT REALLY but can you help me how to think. For example does saying getting more games and stuff make them cheaper and closer to their original price at amazon.com?? Help
So if you had bad experience with UPS/Aramex, how do you really intend to have it shipped from amazon? As far as I know, they still ship it via one of these methods unless packages can swim nowadays.

Besides, it really does sound like you are asking for lab rats. If you want to test whatever you want to test, then buy from your own money and then offer it to the others once you get your 'business' running.

Anyway I wish you best of luck with all this but don't blame others for being skeptical. They have every right to be.
I am more interested in notebooks. Prices in Mideast are too high.
Do you suppose it's a good investment ordering laptops from amazon? (considering shipment and other charges) I doubt there will be any jamarek if the order is small in quantity.
What about warranty?
Please advise.

Thanks
omarmasri wroteTHIS IS GREAT REALLY but can you help me how to think. For example does saying getting more games and stuff make them cheaper and closer to their original price at amazon.com?? Help
that is a good way to think, since getting more games for cheap from amazon, can get you to save on shipping prices to Lebanon, thus you pay less for shipping, & the final price for games bought from amazon is lower from the price of the games if bought from Virgin or other places (taking into mind the price of a game here old/new is the same 60$~70$)

ex: If you bought 5 games from amazon at a final price with everything included @ ~ 160$ < 5 games x 70$ = 350$
Flyingwizard wroteSo if you had bad experience with UPS/Aramex, how do you really intend to have it shipped from amazon? As far as I know, they still ship it via one of these methods unless packages can swim nowadays.

Besides, it really does sound like you are asking for lab rats. If you want to test whatever you want to test, then buy from your own money and then offer it to the others once you get your 'business' running.

Anyway I wish you best of luck with all this but don't blame others for being skeptical. They have every right to be.
You've raised very good points, thank you for talking about them, I was waiting for someone to raise such questions.
Flyingwizard wroteSo if you had bad experience with UPS/Aramex, how do you really intend to have it shipped from amazon? As far as I know, they still ship it via one of these methods unless packages can swim nowadays.
So bad experience happened with UPS/Aramex, its true I didn't deny it & I'm the one that talked about it, but these problems could happen with anyone other than me. But what I am depending on, is that I've managed to find a way to avoid such problems, and now I need to try it for real with "real people" as I've tried it a lot of self testing.
Flyingwizard wroteBesides, it really does sound like you are asking for lab rats. If you want to test whatever you want to test, then buy from your own money and then offer it to the others once you get your 'business' running.
I'm not asking for lab rats, as I've said I need test subjects, & I explained what I mean by that, also I've noted that if a problem happened I wont say tough luck or better luck next time, I've said that I will do anything to help.

and as I've said earlier "I am willing to help you guys as much as you need, no matter what the requests are, we can find a solution."

This isn't about 'business' as you thought it to be, & quoting

Hamboza's words :"& how much profit do you intend to get from this"

My reply:'' I'm not doing this profit, I'm doing it as a test & to get experience, & to help others, as i've seen a lot with problems similar to mine, so why not help them or provide a better service, by gamer for gamers."

These are my exact words for him.

I've no intention to make a 'business' out of each order, maybe in the future if things turned out well, but that's something else, and for now its just about helping.

& about the part testing with my own money, well I've tested alot, and now I need to street test, & I'm going to put the results here as the current buyers have no problem with that.
Flyingwizard wroteAnyway I wish you best of luck with all this but don't blame others for being skeptical. They have every right to be.
thank you, & no I don't blame anyone for being skeptical as they do have every right to be, on the contrary I want them to ask questions so that I can answer, & explain. rather than to take look & ignore, I want to know what you guys are thinking so I can (koon 3ala nafas el mawja ma3kon) :P

So anymore questions are welcomed.
enthralled wroteI am more interested in notebooks. Prices in Mideast are too high.
Do you suppose it's a good investment ordering laptops from amazon? (considering shipment and other charges) I doubt there will be any jamarek if the order is small in quantity.
What about warranty?
Please advise.

Thanks
Dear enthralled, as I've said these can be discussed, but you should know that notebooks are weight heavy when compared to games & accessories.

& as to warranty, just as we shipped them here, we can ship them back. but this costs money. It also depends on the warranty limit.

Edit #3: enthralled got to my attention, that i should inform you that if an item was damaged or have a problem with it, it wont be shipped & rather it will be sent back to the sender & a replacement will be sent instead before shipping to Lebanon.
Ok, i always get stuff from amazon using Aramex Shop n Ship. No problems so far. And the items will reach you within a 3-4 days they reach your box.
As a rule of thumb, expect to pay 60% of the amount ur shipping to not less than 40'000.
It's not complicated.
Newegg wont work, you need to have a valid US Credit card / Address