Broadband in Lebanon - Latest Updates

belal · 2010-04-13T10:06:44+00:00

السعة ستزيد 100 ضعف بعد تمديد الألياف البصريّة الجديدة تخيّل سعة الإنترنت في متناولك أكبر بـ100 ضعف السعة الموجودة حالياً، وبسرعة لا تقارن مع الواقع القائم....

samer

Back to the topic guys. Do not bump unless it's a real update about broadband in Lebanon.

Chup

okay so i was browsing through my phone yesterday, and wanted to check my WAP consumption, went into news, AFP news , LEBANON , and came through this :
LONDON dec 6, 2010
Lebanon warned "Iran Telecom" was taking over the country after uncovering a secret communications network used by hezbollah two years ago, a US diplomatic source released by wikileaks.
The beirut government was shocked by the discovery on April 2008 of the extensive communications system used by the powerful shiite party, which receives military and financial support from iran, according to the source.
Lebanon passed on information about the fibre optics network-allegedly financed by tehran- to the US and Saudi arabia, and french president Nicolas sarkozy was "stunned" by the discovery according to the correspondence revealed in britain's guardian
just found the source
http://en.news.maktoob.com/20090000533288/Lebanon_warned_Iran_telecom_taking_over/Article.htm

jajoja

weird why are they stunned :S, how do they think all the weapons, communications are coming to hizbollah army lol if they used the regular telephone that means they are surely going to be busted
they dont trust their country and no one do... haha thats funny ...

Aly

and french president Nicolas sarkozy was "stunned" by the discovery

Sarcastic president.

Kassem

Chup wroteokay so i was browsing through my phone yesterday, and wanted to check my WAP consumption, went into news, AFP news , LEBANON , and came through this :
LONDON dec 6, 2010
Lebanon warned "Iran Telecom" was taking over the country after uncovering a secret communications network used by hezbollah two years ago, a US diplomatic source released by wikileaks.
The beirut government was shocked by the discovery on April 2008 of the extensive communications system used by the powerful shiite party, which receives military and financial support from iran, according to the source.
Lebanon passed on information about the fibre optics network-allegedly financed by tehran- to the US and Saudi arabia, and french president Nicolas sarkozy was "stunned" by the discovery according to the correspondence revealed in britain's guardian
just found the source
http://en.news.maktoob.com/20090000533288/Lebanon_warned_Iran_telecom_taking_over/Article.htm

This is nothing new. This is actually what lead to the famous government decisions on 5th of May which resulted in the mutual gun fire between Hezbullah and Future Movement on the 7th of May. It is true that Hezbullah have a telecommunications network but it's definitely not a fiber optics one, that's an exaggeration of the situation. And just like jajoja said, they had to build their own infrastructure so that they would be safe from Israel's invasion of our national telecommunication network.

I wish the government would ask for Hezbullah's assistance in laying out the fiber optics networks. I know they've got some impressive engineers and professionals who could be of much help to the ministry of telecommunications. Maybe that would speed up our access to broadband internet, don't you think? :)

shant

guys i don't want to ruin your fun but this is lebanon, THEY ARE NOT GOING GIVE US BETTER INTERNET!! KEEP DREAMING!
thats what they said for many things and we didn't see any of them, such as tva which was effectively going to pay off lebanons debt, the debt increased instead of going down with the TVA, this is just plain stupid
even if it gets better its probably going to be 2-3mbps if not less, there will and always be a limit to download quota, its probably going to be 8GB or the same (256kbps dl quota)
there are soooo many things i want to download but can't!
one more thing, have you seen how much money they want if you want something to be shipped here? its Craaaazzyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
thats is the freaking reason the country is not that technology advanced

belal

2 hours ago

IMEWE submarine cable launched for commercial use
Tariq Khattak

Islamabad—A consortium of nine partners comprising of leading global telecom operators, announced today the completion and commercial launch of a high-capacity, state of the art fibre-optic submarine cable that stretches from India to Europe. The 13000 kilometers long three pair fiber optic cable named IMEWE (India- Middle East- Western Europe),has a design capacity of 3.84 terabits per second, and is also the most advanced cable connecting India in South Asia to Italy and France in Western Europe via the Middle East with landings enroute in Pakistan, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Lebanon.

The IMEWE consortium comprises of nine major telecom companies: Bharti Airtel (India), Etisalat (UAE), France Telecom-Orange (France), OGERO (Lebanon), Pakistan Telecommunication Company Limited (Pakistan), Saudi Telecom Company STC,(Saudi Arabia), Telecom Egypt (Egypt), Telecom Italia Sparkle (Italy), and Tata Communications (India). IMEWE is the third major submarine cable operational between India and Europe after SMW3 and SMW4 and is expected to play a major role in meeting ever growing bandwidth requirement of Indian sub continent and Middle East to Europe and beyond. IMEWE system would also play a key role in expansion of broadband services among masses in concerned countries.

With the activation and the beginning of operations of IMEWE, all member countries shall witness a new era in communications that will undoubtedly lay the foundations for faster international connectivity for generations to come. IMEWE system shall also play a major role of providing continuity of service in case of technical problems in other existing major cables on the route.
...
http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=66127

d3ad

belal wrote
2 hours ago

IMEWE submarine cable launched for commercial use
Tariq Khattak

http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=66127

DSL is already very cheap in Pakistan, compared to rates here I can even say its like free of cost :)

you can get a 10mbps/2mbps - unlimited traffic connection for around 100$

I do certainly hope that the rates get better here as well.

belal

So IMEWE was launched today; now what?

GN90

i think we should start noticing something in the upcoming month

Bassem

Shouldn't that be big news here? I didn't hear anything about it launching.

Moellica

Fastest ping ever, but i don't think it's due to the IMEWE :P

rtp

we need better quota period

i think the internet that ogero provides is good... u have around 150ms ping which is stable...

even with 128k am happy.

the only problem is quota.

rolf

bluewolf wrotewe need better quota period

i think the internet that ogero provides is good... u have around 150ms ping which is stable...

even with 128k am happy.

the only problem is quota.

Quota and price!
Also, this is the time where media is moving to the internet. TV, radio, etc.
so 1mpbs is the minimum for that. Next year it will be 2mbps. And 2mbps is way too expensive in Lebanon.

rtp

@rofl

yeah def price as well.. prices way to high...

first they need to fix the pricing and quota then later make it 100 times faster or something... which is less priority but i dont think they know the priority system :P...

Hybrid

Since yesterday, IMEWE is running in all those mentioned countries except Lebanon, and it won't run in Lebanon anytime soon, because Ogero are supposed to operate it but the Minister won't let them!

So, unless Nahhass and Ogero decide to kiss each other and be friends again, we will have better internet, but i think this will never happen :)

jajoja

Paladin wroteSince yesterday, IMEWE is running in all those mentioned countries except Lebanon, and it won't run in Lebanon anytime soon, because Ogero are supposed to operate it but the Minister won't let them!

So, unless Nahhass and Ogero decide to kiss each other and be friends again, we will have better internet, but i think this will never happen :)

thanks for clearing up on whats going on , im really into reading kassem's point of view about nahaas after this :)

Kassem

jajoja wrote
Paladin wroteSince yesterday, IMEWE is running in all those mentioned countries except Lebanon, and it won't run in Lebanon anytime soon, because Ogero are supposed to operate it but the Minister won't let them!

So, unless Nahhass and Ogero decide to kiss each other and be friends again, we will have better internet, but i think this will never happen :)
thanks for clearing up on whats going on , im really into reading kassem's point of view about nahaas after this :)

It's simple. Ogero broke the law* to further enhance their monopoly. Nahhas intervened to stop them from doing that and did what he had to do. That resulted in a delay in the launching date, that's still fine. We've waited for years, we can wait a few more days/weeks as long as we ensure long term and steady improvements in the internet.

*By creating the so called "The Ogero Company for Telecommunications". This "company" is different from Ogero as we know it, they shall not be confused. Ogero Telecom is a "body" (hay2a), the ministry gave it certain privileges over other ISP's. But, the Ogero "company" is non-existent and separate from the ministry itself. That means: Abdel Menaem Yussef tried to steal the Lebanese government's share in the IMEWE.

jajoja

Kassem wroteBut, the Ogero "company" is non-existent and separate from the ministry itself.

Thats true

Kassem wroteThat means: Abdel Menaem Yussef tried to steal the Lebanese government's share in the IMEWE.

Where did you get this info from or is it just because you hate ogero ? , nahas blocked the contract to go further more because he didnt agree that ogero has the right to be included into the deal thats nahaas intention , i dont see any problem with that its their right too , but nahas doesnt want Abdel menaem to get any more privileges why ? because hes not from the same side of which nahas is .

Always remember in our country the conflict is made from the whom take an action , i mean decision + an act thats the one we have to blame , ogero didnt go to the streets and made a crisis in our country because of that , they think about their people not like nahas/***** he doesnt want any positive update to this country !

Kassem

jajoja wroteWhere did you get this info from or is it just because you hate ogero ? , nahas blocked the contract to go further more because he didnt agree that ogero has the right to be included into the deal

You are missing the point here. If Abdel Menaem Yussef signed the contract in the name of "The Ogero Company for Telecommunications" what would that mean? It means that a private company (although non-existent) have signed the contract, and therefore the ministry won't have anything to do with the IMEWE anymore! Nahhas wasn't against "Ogero Telecom" signing the deal in the name of the ministry, otherwise he wouldn't have gave Ogero the privilege to take care of the preparations and the signing in the first place. But, again I repeat, Abdel Menaem Yussem was inviting the consortium and planned to sign in the name of "The Ogero Company for Telecommunications" and not "Ogero Telecom"! Please try to be objective and analyze the situation as is.

I'm actually okey with Ogero and I believe they're the most reliable ISP in Lebanon. But that doesn't mean I would be okey with what Abdel Menaem Yussef is doing. So really, it's not Nahhas that doesn't want to upgrade the telecommunication sector's infrastructure, it's Yussef's bypassing of the law that lead to the delay. And for your information, Gebran Bassil was the first minister to invest in the infrastructure and actually do something about the internet outside Solidere. Nahhas is and will carry on what Bassil has started, and eventually we'll enjoy the luxury of broadband internet! I trust Nahhas because I know him as a person, he's a very serious man with a lot of integrity(something that is missing in most of the politicians these days).

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