Broadband in Lebanon - Latest Updates

belal · 2010-04-13T10:06:44+00:00

السعة ستزيد 100 ضعف بعد تمديد الألياف البصريّة الجديدة تخيّل سعة الإنترنت في متناولك أكبر بـ100 ضعف السعة الموجودة حالياً، وبسرعة لا تقارن مع الواقع القائم....

J4D

al_jamal wrotewho will be the lucky 25%

Tripoli

OK class check this out , few of you know that the cellular communication networks in Lebanon and world wide rely on the internet to function . the cells forming the cellular network each is connected to the landline (dsl) connection . so if I with a cell phone want to call bin-laden on his land-line what will happen is that first a connection will be established between me and the cell post wirelessly , then from the cell post via "Intranet" wired or wirelessly to Ogero . from Ogero it goes to Pakistan "internet" then to bin-laden.voice calls are nearly functioning now, but with the coming fiber networks each cell post will be capable of an internet connection in excess of the 15Mb/s connection , so expect video calls and the package to come soon after fiber has been established ;) 3G connectivity is soon to be active in Lebanon .

gamer4life

I don't know but all what I read is bullsh!t, because many things can happen in 16 months. I'm not optimistic at all.

babum

jadberro wrote
al_jamal wrotewho will be the lucky 25%
Tripoli

OK class check this out , few of you know that the cellular communication networks in Lebanon and world wide rely on the internet to function . the cells forming the cellular network each is connected to the landline (dsl) connection . so if I with a cell phone want to call bin-laden on his land-line what will happen is that first a connection will be established between me and the cell post wirelessly , then from the cell post via "Intranet" wired or wirelessly to Ogero . from Ogero it goes to Pakistan "internet" then to bin-laden.voice calls are nearly functioning now, but with the coming fiber networks each cell post will be capable of an internet connection in excess of the 15Mb/s connection , so expect video calls and the package to come soon after fiber has been established ;) 3G connectivity is soon to be active in Lebanon .

That won't be happening anytime soon, for videocalls to work properly you would need a minimum of 1 mbps constant or more for each cellphone involved in the call. Maybe 3G will be made available but don't expect to have gigantic speed improvements as the quantity of bandwidth the lebanese government has bought won't be enough for having such high speeds. Also, videocalls won't be cheap either.
What you can expect is to have more quota made available to your regular connection and less restrictive FUP.

J4D

babum wrote
jadberro wrote
al_jamal wrotewho will be the lucky 25%
Tripoli

OK class check this out , few of you know that the cellular communication networks in Lebanon and world wide rely on the internet to function . the cells forming the cellular network each is connected to the landline (dsl) connection . so if I with a cell phone want to call bin-laden on his land-line what will happen is that first a connection will be established between me and the cell post wirelessly , then from the cell post via "Intranet" wired or wirelessly to Ogero . from Ogero it goes to Pakistan "internet" then to bin-laden.voice calls are nearly functioning now, but with the coming fiber networks each cell post will be capable of an internet connection in excess of the 15Mb/s connection , so expect video calls and the package to come soon after fiber has been established ;) 3G connectivity is soon to be active in Lebanon .
That won't be happening anytime soon, for videocalls to work properly you would need a minimum of 1 mbps constant or more for each cellphone involved in the call. Maybe 3G will be made available but don't expect to have gigantic speed improvements as the quantity of bandwidth the lebanese government has bought won't be enough for having such high speeds. Also, videocalls won't be cheap either.
What you can expect is to have more quota made available to your regular connection and less restrictive FUP.

Im not expecting , im telling you what will happen . Video calls require no external bandwidth :) only mobile internet and external calls require that ;)

babum

jadberro wrote
babum wrote
jadberro wrote Tripoli

OK class check this out , few of you know that the cellular communication networks in Lebanon and world wide rely on the internet to function . the cells forming the cellular network each is connected to the landline (dsl) connection . so if I with a cell phone want to call bin-laden on his land-line what will happen is that first a connection will be established between me and the cell post wirelessly , then from the cell post via "Intranet" wired or wirelessly to Ogero . from Ogero it goes to Pakistan "internet" then to bin-laden.voice calls are nearly functioning now, but with the coming fiber networks each cell post will be capable of an internet connection in excess of the 15Mb/s connection , so expect video calls and the package to come soon after fiber has been established ;) 3G connectivity is soon to be active in Lebanon .
That won't be happening anytime soon, for videocalls to work properly you would need a minimum of 1 mbps constant or more for each cellphone involved in the call. Maybe 3G will be made available but don't expect to have gigantic speed improvements as the quantity of bandwidth the lebanese government has bought won't be enough for having such high speeds. Also, videocalls won't be cheap either.
What you can expect is to have more quota made available to your regular connection and less restrictive FUP.
Im not expecting , im telling you what will happen . Video calls require no external bandwidth :) only mobile internet and external calls require that ;)

You are right on that point which I totally forgot, lets hope it happens then.

Flakk

jadberro wrote
al_jamal wrotewho will be the lucky 25%
Tripoli

OK class check this out , few of you know that the cellular communication networks in Lebanon and world wide rely on the internet to function . the cells forming the cellular network each is connected to the landline (dsl) connection . so if I with a cell phone want to call bin-laden on his land-line what will happen is that first a connection will be established between me and the cell post wirelessly , then from the cell post via "Intranet" wired or wirelessly to Ogero . from Ogero it goes to Pakistan "internet" then to bin-laden.voice calls are nearly functioning now, but with the coming fiber networks each cell post will be capable of an internet connection in excess of the 15Mb/s connection , so expect video calls and the package to come soon after fiber has been established ;) 3G connectivity is soon to be active in Lebanon .

Cells are also called Base transceiver stations (BTS) and are wirelessly connected to base station controllers (BSC) which themselves are wirelessly connected to a mobile switching center (MSC). Now that MSC is connected to to the Telephone Centrals and to Ogero and its DSL lines.

Note: The BTS and BSC belong to the BSS (Base station subsystem) and the MSC belongs to the NSS (network station subsystem).

gamer4life

You are right on that point which I totally forgot, lets hope it happens then.

No it won't happen in less then 2-5 years trust me, don't be optimistic because you'll get disappointed at the end like me.

belal

واشار الى ان في الوضع الراهن اي قبل تنفيذ المشروع يتيح امكانية تأمين سرعات تتراوح بين 5 و10 و15
MB الى قسم لا يستهان به من المناطق المدينية حيث المشتركون قريبون من السنترالات. اما لماذا لم يتم وضع هذا الامر في الخدمة فهذا سيكون قيد البحث.

What?When?

All talk. maybe in the next decade since another sectarian war is going to break out in this jungle.

EDIT: wait a minute, weren't we supposed to have this by July31?!??

J4D

Flakk wrote
jadberro wrote
al_jamal wrotewho will be the lucky 25%
Tripoli

OK class check this out , few of you know that the cellular communication networks in Lebanon and world wide rely on the internet to function . the cells forming the cellular network each is connected to the landline (dsl) connection . so if I with a cell phone want to call bin-laden on his land-line what will happen is that first a connection will be established between me and the cell post wirelessly , then from the cell post via "Intranet" wired or wirelessly to Ogero . from Ogero it goes to Pakistan "internet" then to bin-laden.voice calls are nearly functioning now, but with the coming fiber networks each cell post will be capable of an internet connection in excess of the 15Mb/s connection , so expect video calls and the package to come soon after fiber has been established ;) 3G connectivity is soon to be active in Lebanon .
Cells are also called Base transceiver stations (BTS) and are wirelessly connected to base station controllers (BSC) which themselves are wirelessly connected to a mobile switching center (MSC). Now that MSC is connected to to the Telephone Centrals and to Ogero and its DSL lines.

Note: The BTS and BSC belong to the BSS (Base station subsystem) and the MSC belongs to the NSS (network station subsystem).

Flak, Not in Lebanon . our system relies on landlines to function , minimalistic and cheap design .I have been to many countries and as i have seen only Lebanon uses this method . All other countries use the method you are talking about mostly , and rarely the Lebanese method . they use wireless to be self sufficient from the governmental landlines .

Samer99

gamer4life wrote
You are right on that point which I totally forgot, lets hope it happens then.
No it won't happen in less then 2-5 years trust me, don't be optimistic because you'll get disappointed at the end like me.

Charbel Nahhas said that a maximum of 16 months and the 15 mbps connection will be available for most people (at least for me, because my house is less than 50 meters away from OGERO's central).

I think that (but I hope not) it will take at least 2 years if no civil or Israeli wars occurred...

Flakk

jadberro wrote
Flakk wrote
jadberro wroteTripoli

OK class check this out , few of you know that the cellular communication networks in Lebanon and world wide rely on the internet to function . the cells forming the cellular network each is connected to the landline (dsl) connection . so if I with a cell phone want to call bin-laden on his land-line what will happen is that first a connection will be established between me and the cell post wirelessly , then from the cell post via "Intranet" wired or wirelessly to Ogero . from Ogero it goes to Pakistan "internet" then to bin-laden.voice calls are nearly functioning now, but with the coming fiber networks each cell post will be capable of an internet connection in excess of the 15Mb/s connection , so expect video calls and the package to come soon after fiber has been established ;) 3G connectivity is soon to be active in Lebanon .
Cells are also called Base transceiver stations (BTS) and are wirelessly connected to base station controllers (BSC) which themselves are wirelessly connected to a mobile switching center (MSC). Now that MSC is connected to to the Telephone Centrals and to Ogero and its DSL lines.

Note: The BTS and BSC belong to the BSS (Base station subsystem) and the MSC belongs to the NSS (network station subsystem).
Flak, Not in Lebanon . our system relies on landlines to function , minimalistic and cheap design .I have been to many countries and as i have seen only Lebanon uses this method . All other countries use the method you are talking about mostly , and rarely the Lebanese method . they use wireless to be self sufficient from the governmental landlines .

Oh never knew that it is that way. But for internal calls who acts as a Mobile switching center here ?

J4D

Flakk wrote
jadberro wrote
Flakk wrote Cells are also called Base transceiver stations (BTS) and are wirelessly connected to base station controllers (BSC) which themselves are wirelessly connected to a mobile switching center (MSC). Now that MSC is connected to to the Telephone Centrals and to Ogero and its DSL lines.

Note: The BTS and BSC belong to the BSS (Base station subsystem) and the MSC belongs to the NSS (network station subsystem).
Flak, Not in Lebanon . our system relies on landlines to function , minimalistic and cheap design .I have been to many countries and as i have seen only Lebanon uses this method . All other countries use the method you are talking about mostly , and rarely the Lebanese method . they use wireless to be self sufficient from the governmental landlines .
Oh never knew that it is that way. But for internal calls who acts as a Mobile switching center here ?

The carries, as in MTC or ALFA do all the switching, its just that the medium of transfer of the actual calls is done by terrestrial connections provided by Ogero .In the end all the nodes must be connected to a central server that does all the switching .

Flakk

Good to know that everything in Lebanon is FUBAR. :P

anyways, a new cable coming from Jordan will be connected to beirut and was called JADI and with the addition of Beirut its now Called JADBI. :D We just added the B to JADBI very nice! :P

Raficoo

Samer99 wroteCharbel Nahhas said that a maximum of 16 months and the 15 mbps connection will be available for most people (at least for me, because my house is less than 50 meters away from OGERO's central).

Hmm this is some good news(well atleast indicating there's something being done) and i'll try to be optimistic Since it's been almost 3 years since i've been with this "DSL" 3GB/month nonsense... hmm i wonder how much speed lost with me since the Central i'm connected to is 1.6KM away(straight line).. actually.. i thought that with Fiber-optics the speed lost is much less than with Copper(am i right?)

o well... let's just hope for the best and maybe one day this NightMare will end..

J4D

Raficoo wrote
Samer99 wroteCharbel Nahhas said that a maximum of 16 months and the 15 mbps connection will be available for most people (at least for me, because my house is less than 50 meters away from OGERO's central).
Hmm this is some good news(well atleast indicating there's something being done) and i'll try to be optimistic Since it's been almost 3 years since i've been with this "DSL" 3GB/month nonsense... hmm i wonder how much speed lost with me since the Central i'm connected to is 1.6KM away(straight line).. actually.. i thought that with Fiber-optics the speed lost is much less than with Copper(am i right?)

o well... let's just hope for the best and maybe one day this NightMare will end..

for regular users the difference between copper and fiber cannot be detected. Especially on a short run of 1.6 Km.

The-MMMs

Kassem wrote
chosen2k wrotefor when ?
If I'm not mistaken he said that within the next 16 months, 75% of the Lebanese residents will have access to a 15Mb/s broadband connection. He also mentioned that this is not "internet speed" because after 1 or 2 Mb/s it doesn't make any difference. But this will open the door to a lot of other services that are not yet available in Lebanon such as online TV, e-Learning, podcasts and many other services that Lebanon doesn't have access to because of the limited connectivity.

if i am part of the 25 other % i will cry.

none the less, great news

can anyone give a sitrep to that whole post, as in what should we be seeing in these 16 months, any kind of preparations etc ?

mmk92

what about brandwidth limits? im guessing with a 15mb/s connection a monthly qouta limit would be pointless..right?

The-MMMs

mmk92 wrotewhat about brandwidth limits? im guessing with a 15mb/s connection a monthly qouta limit would be pointless..right?

having a quota is what keeps the internet working well, yes indeed it will be pointless with a 15mb/s but of course it will/should be much higher

every connection out there has a quota limit, so im just going to speculate that there WILL be one, but it will be in a reasonable range IF these speeds where to ever be true.

J4D

Flakk wroteGood to know that everything in Lebanon is FUBAR. :P

anyways, a new cable coming from Jordan will be connected to beirut and was called JADI and with the addition of Beirut its now Called JADBI. :D We just added the B to JADBI very nice! :P

Technicaly incorrect, as Beirut is not added, we are already in Beirut ! The other countries add the B and exclude their own .

bigjudge

Frankly i don't expect anything to happen. If i am incorrect and hope that i am, and since i reside in Tripoli, i guess i am not in the unlucky 25%.

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