Broadband in Lebanon - Latest Updates

- Beta of IMEWE cable.
- Latest stable version of CADMOS cable. :)

anyone has infos about the upgrade of CADMOS cable ??

Although I have this low ping, but I'm not able of getting 3green in mw2, I'm getting 2yellow and sometimes red, while last week the ping was higher by 15-25ms more and i was getting 3green all the time, does anyone have an explanation for it?

gamer4life wroteAh ok then here it is:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\riad>tracert bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.138]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 20 ms 99 ms 99 ms dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]
2 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms 10.152.16.1
3 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms 10.0.1.14
4 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms 213.175.184.194
5 * 20 ms 15 ms 212.36.211.33
6 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms 172.16.41.5 ----> 16ms Channel: Fastpath
7 97 ms 102 ms 99 ms 195.50.120.69
8 98 ms 98 ms 98 ms ae-11-51.car1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.139.66]
9 98 ms 97 ms 96 ms 195.50.118.242
10 97 ms 99 ms 98 ms 212.58.238.129
11 98 ms 97 ms 97 ms virtual-vip.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.138]

Trace complete.

I'm on Ogero and tweaked my modem to get the minimum latency, usually, no ISP can get a latency lower than Ogero's one as AFAIK... So interpreting your result, and comparing it to mine :


Tracing route to www.l.google.com [209.85.227.103]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 42 ms 41 ms 39 ms 77.42.129.25
3 42 ms 41 ms 62 ms 77.42.129.2 ----> 43ms average Channel : Interleave
4 84 ms 41 ms 41 ms 192.168.101.2
5 108 ms 107 ms 109 ms 195.50.120.29
6 106 ms 108 ms 107 ms 4.69.139.66
....
12 110 ms 113 ms 113 ms 209.85.227.103
Trace complete.


My conclusion, you are set on a fastpath channel not interleave which is the default one either based on your request as you are a gamer and need lower latency or because you nagged to much about high latency :-)

Going to Fastpath from interleave will improve (lower) latency. It also lowers your noise margin db, which can lower your line stability.If your line is pretty clean, there's no need for interleave, DTM can also avoid certain frequencies as well to lower the error rate.

Better explanation from the Internet :

Interleaving is an error correction protocol that is implemented for your line at the DSLAM. With Interleaving enabled, the DSLAM can correct errors in the data stream it receives before passing that data to your gateway router. It is usually implemented on noisy or marginal lines and can greatly increase sync stability and effectively eliminate "first hop" packet loss. The largest drawback to Interleaving is that it will increase your ping time, specifically to your first hop gateway router.

If Interleaving is not enabled on your line, it is configured as FastPath. FastPath allows the DSLAM to pass the data received from you to the first hop router without performing any error correction. As a result, marginal lines could experience an increase in packet loss and decrease in sync stability (i.e. frequent sync loss). However, FastPath has lower ping times, especially to the first hop router. [ The reason why you got 1% packet loss in some pingtest.net tests ]


So in other words, you are saving 30-40 ms just by using Fast path channel.


Just my 2 cents...

Fernand wrote

Kareem wrote

gamer4life wroteAh ok then here it is:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\riad>tracert bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.138]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 20 ms 99 ms 99 ms dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]
2 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms 10.152.16.1
3 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms 10.0.1.14
4 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms 213.175.184.194
5 * 20 ms 15 ms 212.36.211.33
6 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms 172.16.41.5 ----> 16ms Channel: Fastpath
7 97 ms 102 ms 99 ms 195.50.120.69
8 98 ms 98 ms 98 ms ae-11-51.car1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.139.66]
9 98 ms 97 ms 96 ms 195.50.118.242
10 97 ms 99 ms 98 ms 212.58.238.129
11 98 ms 97 ms 97 ms virtual-vip.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.138]

Trace complete.

I'm on Ogero and tweaked my modem to get the minimum latency, usually, no ISP can get a latency lower than Ogero's one as AFAIK... So interpreting your result, and comparing it to mine :


Tracing route to www.l.google.com [209.85.227.103]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 42 ms 41 ms 39 ms 77.42.129.25
3 42 ms 41 ms 62 ms 77.42.129.2 ----> 43ms average Channel : Interleave
4 84 ms 41 ms 41 ms 192.168.101.2
5 108 ms 107 ms 109 ms 195.50.120.29
6 106 ms 108 ms 107 ms 4.69.139.66
....
12 110 ms 113 ms 113 ms 209.85.227.103
Trace complete.


My conclusion, you are set on a fastpath channel not interleave which is the default one either based on your request as you are a gamer and need lower latency or because you nagged to much about high latency :-)

Going to Fastpath from interleave will improve (lower) latency. It also lowers your noise margin db, which can lower your line stability.If your line is pretty clean, there's no need for interleave, DTM can also avoid certain frequencies as well to lower the error rate.

Better explanation from the Internet :

Interleaving is an error correction protocol that is implemented for your line at the DSLAM. With Interleaving enabled, the DSLAM can correct errors in the data stream it receives before passing that data to your gateway router. It is usually implemented on noisy or marginal lines and can greatly increase sync stability and effectively eliminate "first hop" packet loss. The largest drawback to Interleaving is that it will increase your ping time, specifically to your first hop gateway router.

If Interleaving is not enabled on your line, it is configured as FastPath. FastPath allows the DSLAM to pass the data received from you to the first hop router without performing any error correction. As a result, marginal lines could experience an increase in packet loss and decrease in sync stability (i.e. frequent sync loss). However, FastPath has lower ping times, especially to the first hop router. [ The reason why you got 1% packet loss in some pingtest.net tests ]


So in other words, you are saving 30-40 ms just by using Fast path channel.


Just my 2 cents...

Karim do you think they are turning everyone progressively to fiber since IDM AND Terranet subscribers in Tripoli got latency improvements?

Well dude you never know, but since his traceroute showed that he and I are passing through the same route, 195.50.120.* , I can say they are still using the same backbone. As for the internal network, maybe they are connected through fibers to Ogero ?? I can't say because I must have valid arguments and with only a traceroute you can't say, but if that latency is all the same for IDM and Terranet customers not only specific users, connection from ISPs to Ogero must have definitely improved; still too late to judge.

Hmm IDM is like a Joint stock company so many important ppl invest in it so basically it has better chances than other ISPs.
Lol celebrate for the internet in here nah this wont every happen or maybe will in the afterlife.

Kareem wrote..............

Hey kareem I would like to see the difference between ur isp and mine in the ping I'll start but choose the same servers as mine.