Hello all
have any one noticed that this forum is visited daily by google bots
i dont know how? but when i visit google.com not google.com.lb and write any title in this forms even new ones the result of lebgeeks appear between the first ten globaly
i think that the moderator of this site(Samer) is using a sort of web master html code for google robots
am i right??
Abbabbj wrotea sort of web master html code for google robots
No, I'm not using some dark SEO voodoo to get high search rankings :)
im trying to get a site listed, and it just wont, any ideas?
rolf wroteim trying to get a site listed, and it just wont, any ideas?
Sitemap your site, upload it to google webmaster (if your using a php script with login) do create a dummy account and input the user name and password inside the webmaster area at google so the bot can crawl and index all pages on your site

if you have a regular html website sitmap it and do the same excpt there are few tricks to get listed faster ex:hidden links, correct meta-tags and keywords not to mention getting links from diffrent websites no matter what they are will increase your SEO optimazation use blogs and forums not to advertise your site but to get more links to it that will help out getting your web discovered.

One more thing you can always use IBP internet business promoter it submit your website on more or less every search engine

site map generator: http://www.xml-sitemaps.com/
google webmaster: www.google.com/webmasters
IBP : www.ibusinesspromoter.com/

I got lot more ideas but its already 4.30 AM and i cant get my head together maybe wil continue this later on
asfor page ranking check out alexa.com
and checkhttp://www.seocompany.ca/tool/seo-tools.html
hidden links, correct meta-tags and keywords
Those aren't as effective as they used to be in the 90s

Using a website to submit to x search engines and y directories is kind of useless. Nowadays, you only need to get indexed by yahoo, google and bing.

Rolf, if the site is new, it needs some time to reach google. Also, you need a bunch of quality inbound links from highly page-ranked websites.
samer wrote
Abbabbj wrotea sort of web master html code for google robots
No, I'm not using some dark SEO voodoo to get high search rankings :)
maybe your just luky but it is real (i dont know but i think you can access the forum log
how many times a day the robot login?)
samer wrote
hidden links, correct meta-tags and keywords
Those aren't as effective as they used to be in the 90s

Using a website to submit to x search engines and y directories is kind of useless. Nowadays, you only need to get indexed by yahoo, google and bing.
90's? no mate i got one of my websites down to 20k rank in alexa with over 20k daily visitors by those things i mentioned before it worked for me ...
I've noticed a delay between a week or two for google to crawl a fresh website.
invo wrote
samer wrote
hidden links, correct meta-tags and keywords
Those aren't as effective as they used to be in the 90s

Using a website to submit to x search engines and y directories is kind of useless. Nowadays, you only need to get indexed by yahoo, google and bing.
90's? no mate i got one of my websites down to 20k rank in alexa with over 20k daily visitors by those things i mentioned before it worked for me ...
If it just works without any effort (i.e., set the keywords, submit to the engines and you're done) how come not all the websites do it? I doubt it's any secret. Also, do you mind posting the URL of that website you're talking about?
samer wrote
invo wrote
samer wroteThose aren't as effective as they used to be in the 90s

Using a website to submit to x search engines and y directories is kind of useless. Nowadays, you only need to get indexed by yahoo, google and bing.
90's? no mate i got one of my websites down to 20k rank in alexa with over 20k daily visitors by those things i mentioned before it worked for me ...
If it just works without any effort (i.e., set the keywords, submit to the engines and you're done) how come not all the websites do it? I doubt it's any secret. Also, do you mind posting the URL of that website you're talking about?
mate am not saying thats the only thing you should do to get listed in search engines but its a combination of all of the above, reread the original post and check the links.

website http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/arabx.us?p=tgraph&r=home_home dont mind the content it started as a university prank but after a while we needed a private dedicated server to run the site

invo and Samer keep in mind that it depends on the contents of the website.
If it contains keywords that are abundant and google is already saturated with similar websites, then these "90ies" tricks might make a difference. If not (eg, searching for "lebgeeks"), there is no use in doing.
metatag keywords are literally useless as google and bing COMPLETELY ignore them.
invo wrote
samer wrote
invo wrote90's? no mate i got one of my websites down to 20k rank in alexa with over 20k daily visitors by those things i mentioned before it worked for me ...
If it just works without any effort (i.e., set the keywords, submit to the engines and you're done) how come not all the websites do it? I doubt it's any secret. Also, do you mind posting the URL of that website you're talking about?
mate am not saying thats the only thing you should do to get listed in search engines but its a combination of all of the above, reread the original post and check the links.

website http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/arabx.us?p=tgraph&r=home_home dont mind the content it started as a university prank but after a while we needed a private dedicated server to run the site

http://web.archive.org/web/20071025010742/http://xsltcache.alexa.com/site_stats/gif/t/b/d3d3LmFyYWJ4LnVz/s.gif
Looks like your technique didn't help for long..



EDIT: not to mention how irrelevant the data from Alexa is (it can easily be faked using the toolbar and a mass-refresher).
Haha !
The Golden Rule... : Don't mess with the Administrator, especially in what he knows the most.
samer wrote
invo wrote
samer wroteIf it just works without any effort (i.e., set the keywords, submit to the engines and you're done) how come not all the websites do it? I doubt it's any secret. Also, do you mind posting the URL of that website you're talking about?
mate am not saying thats the only thing you should do to get listed in search engines but its a combination of all of the above, reread the original post and check the links.

website http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/arabx.us?p=tgraph&r=home_home dont mind the content it started as a university prank but after a while we needed a private dedicated server to run the site

http://web.archive.org/web/20071025010742/http://xsltcache.alexa.com/site_stats/gif/t/b/d3d3LmFyYWJ4LnVz/s.gif
Looks like your technique didn't help for long..


http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=400&h=220&o=f&c=1&y=t&b=ffffff&r=2y&u=arabx.us&

EDIT: not to mention how irrelevant the data from Alexa is (it can easily be faked using the toolbar and a mass-refresher).
it did help trust me 35k users ;) in only 1 year... but unfortunately the ads weren't paying the dedicated server
hosting ;) so we had to shut down
not to mention how irrelevant the data from Alexa is (it can easily be faked using the toolbar and a mass-refresher
Wow so in other words either i cheated or am lying right ?
well check your inbox
not to mention how irrelevant the data from Alexa is (it can easily be faked using the toolbar and a mass-refresher)
Wow so in other words either i cheated or am lying right ?
well check your inbox
No. If you read my sentence correctly, I said Alexa data is not a trusted source of information regarding the actual traffic, since it can easily be forged. I did not receive anything to my inbox.

I went into this argument because you said that meta tags and submitting to search engine are the reasons (among others, of course) you got so much traffic for this website. As I said, meta tags are barely taken into account when it comes to how google classifies its SERPs. Clearly, all the traffic you got was either from quality content (which made your website buzz on the blogosphere and social networks) and/or because you were linked from high-pageranked websites. Inbound links are mainly what makes your site an authority and they have a large impact on SERPs, which subsequently increases your traffic.
samer wrote
not to mention how irrelevant the data from Alexa is (it can easily be faked using the toolbar and a mass-refresher)
Wow so in other words either i cheated or am lying right ?
well check your inbox
No. If you read my sentence correctly, I said Alexa data is not a trusted source of information regarding the actual traffic, since it can easily be forged. I did not receive anything to my inbox.

I went into this argument because you said that meta tags and submitting to search engine are the reasons (among others, of course) you got so much traffic for this website. As I said, meta tags are barely taken into account when it comes to how google classifies its SERPs. Clearly, all the traffic you got was either from quality content (which made your website buzz on the blogosphere and social networks) and/or because you were linked from high-pageranked websites. Inbound links are mainly what makes your site an authority and they have a large impact on SERPs, which subsequently increases your traffic.
I sent a PM but apparently it didn't go through will send it to your email

What i have tried to explain.. is that if your starting new without any marketing plans the best way is to use all the free webmaster resources available for free recommended on v7n.com (webmasters forum) ... and all you had to say about that is that the old fashioned bot that index your pages and catalogue your keywords and meta tags are no longer very important when submitting a search query well you might be right but still i havnt seen any evidence to support your claim. while i'v given you a website that we started that reached the top on basic SEO Technics .. regarding the quality links to high ranked websites well your absolutely right they do get you good traffic and i have tried both ways and they worked for me if it did for me why not advise it to someone who needs help... if you can proove me wrong i will gladly stand corrected
Clearly, the traffic you got is from the content you had. Thousands of people search for x-rated arabic pictures and videos every day (which seems to be what you hosted on your website) whereas only a few search for a Lebanese technology community.

Regarding meta tags, here's a quote from a V7N.vom article:
It is no longer about meta tags, title tags, re-directs or cloaking scripts. It is about human review. Links. source
Regarding meta tags, here's a quote from a V7N.vom article:
It is no longer about meta tags, title tags, re-directs or cloaking scripts. It is about human review. Links. source
from v7n.com you can find the v7n.comEffective SEO - The V7N Way tutorial - and their main concern was the keywords and its written by their board admin ! .. i dont know but when you started you mentioned keywords ... meta tags ... why emphasizing on meta tags .. it might not be as important as keywords but every thing count, read the tutorial and you will see what i mean .. you can get me a hundred reviews by poeple ... saying keywords doesnt count .. but check their website .. there is no avoiding it ;)
how are the keywords meta tag relevant if they are not taken into consideration by google?
so no, they don't count at ALL. unless if you care much about ask.con or other search engines.

anyways, here's google saying it themselves:
"Google doesn't use the "keywords" meta tag in our web search ranking."

and

"Q: Does Google ever use the "keywords" meta tag in its web search ranking?
A: In a word, no."

source: http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2009/09/google-does-not-use-keywords-meta-tag.html


can it be any more clear than that?

so unless if you care much about the 1% max traffic that might come from ask.com for who the keyword metatags might be taken into consideration, but probably have very very low effect on the ranking, then fine, go for it.