J4D
battikh wrotejadberro wrotethats what i meant :D i know setting gprs is easy but how to connect to BBm for example etc.....
there's nothing to configure to make it work. once you're connected to a network (wifi, gprs, blackberry, ...) your phone will try to contact RIM's servers. If they are accessible, your phone will register on the blackberry network and everything will work (BBM, email, ...). If the RIM servers are not accessible, then only apps that don't require to be registered on the blackberry network will work.
great , thanks :)
EddieEC
battikh wrotejadberro wrotethats what i meant :D i know setting gprs is easy but how to connect to BBm for example etc.....
there's nothing to configure to make it work. once you're connected to a network (wifi, gprs, blackberry, ...) your phone will try to contact RIM's servers. If they are accessible, your phone will register on the blackberry network and everything will work (BBM, email, ...). If the RIM servers are not accessible, then only apps that don't require to be registered on the blackberry network will work.
So if I use my method, I can't use BBM?
samer
EddieEC wrotebattikh wrotejadberro wrotethats what i meant :D i know setting gprs is easy but how to connect to BBm for example etc.....
there's nothing to configure to make it work. once you're connected to a network (wifi, gprs, blackberry, ...) your phone will try to contact RIM's servers. If they are accessible, your phone will register on the blackberry network and everything will work (BBM, email, ...). If the RIM servers are not accessible, then only apps that don't require to be registered on the blackberry network will work.
So if I use my method, I can't use BBM?
No, since RIM servers are only accessible to those with a BIS plan.
EddieEC
But my friend is assuring me that his friend used this method, and it works fine.
Nonetheless, I'll try it once I get my blackberry in a couple of days.
Kareem
I still wonder why people are so eager to get the BB service. Don't tell me because of the messaging feature, if you have GPRS you can use MSN. Oh sorry, I forgot, because it's something new...
EddieEC
I need it for push e-mail for my business, that's why
battikh
@karim
why NOT to use BB services if you have a BB phone? it's not much more expensive. and, even though BBM is just ONE feature in BB, even this one is MUCH different than msn. you can't send offline messages from msn on mobile phones, can't send voice messages, can't send files, can't do any of this in an easy 1 click way, ...
just again 1 stupid example. if you want to send a picture that you have just taken on BB:
1- take the pic
2- click on menu --> click on send/share --> you get a list to chose from (email, BBM, MMS, Facebook, Flickr, Twitter, ...)
3- if you chose email/mms/BBM, chose the contact, and chose the size of pic (original, large, medium, small)
4- click on send
it CAN'T get any easier than that, and it's not as easy as that on no other brand. other brands let you do it ONLY for email and mms. no other brand has that much flexibility while keeping ease of use. on other phones, just resizing the pic will take you much more time than doing the whole thing on a BB.
and if you're on gprs and not edge, wait for the pic to get uploaded... if you're on BB, you get edge, not gprs.
if i can get edge speed when on BB, why should i settle for gprs? the price difference between the 2 makes it definitely worth it to go for bb, just for the speed difference, without even considering all the other advantages.
why do you use adsl if you can use dial up?
battikh
and another example for BBM (coz you seem to have some kind of hatred towards it and to explain to you that it is very different than msn)
it's christmass and i have 2 sisters, 1 of them in france. we want to buy gifts, chose cards, ...
all i have to do is create a conversation between the 3 of us in BBM and we can discuss everything in this discussion, the 3 of us receiving everything. we can share files, pictures of potential gifts and cards, ... and all the members of the group will receive them.
can you do anything even close to that on any other IM on a mobile phone?
J4D
i cant wait for the BIS in Lebanon to become respectable so i can unleash the power of my BB *sigh*
EddieEC
GPRS on my phone = edge.
Kareem
battikh wrote@karim
why NOT to use BB services if you have a BB phone? it's not much more expensive. and, even though BBM is just ONE feature in BB, even this one is MUCH different than msn. you can't send offline messages from msn on mobile phones, can't send voice messages, can't send files, can't do any of this in an easy 1 click way, ...
just again 1 stupid example. if you want to send a picture that you have just taken on BB:
1- take the pic
2- click on menu --> click on send/share --> you get a list to chose from (email, BBM, MMS, Facebook, Flickr, Twitter, ...)
3- if you chose email/mms/BBM, chose the contact, and chose the size of pic (original, large, medium, small)
4- click on send
it CAN'T get any easier than that, and it's not as easy as that on no other brand. other brands let you do it ONLY for email and mms. no other brand has that much flexibility while keeping ease of use. on other phones, just resizing the pic will take you much more time than doing the whole thing on a BB.
and if you're on gprs and not edge, wait for the pic to get uploaded... if you're on BB, you get edge, not gprs.
if i can get edge speed when on BB, why should i settle for gprs? the price difference between the 2 makes it definitely worth it to go for bb, just for the speed difference, without even considering all the other advantages.
why do you use adsl if you can use dial up?
I meant by GPRS, EDGE, because when you subscribe, you get EDGE unless no coverage. EDGE is for 10$/month.BB is great for e-mails I admit, but the number of users subscribing to use the mail feature is very limited. Check your msn contacts status, kello my PIN= bla bla ;-)
EddieEC
Correct, and there is like 3 different EDGE packages, $5, $10, $15 (not sure). They use the same technology, we have the same limit as the $15, yet we pay $40. I am not saying a blackberry isn't useful, but we're getting bankrupt.
battikh
^^ on alfa, gprs is 25$ for 250Mb. (it's Mb on their site, not MB, is it really megabit and not megabye? i guess it's just a typo...)
blackberry is 40$ for 500MB (mega BYTE). Blackberry is actually cheaper per megabyte (even if gprs is 250 megabytes and not megabits).
so it's cheaper and you have more features, and the phones are quiet robust and you wont find other phones as good as them and that can get as cheap as them with a hardware keyboard. so i don't see why people find it weird that people go BB... it makes much more sense than people who go iphone...
just a question, if someone is a lot into social media and chatting and all this crap. why would you go for a phone that doesn't have a hardware keyboard? if you want to type a lot and quickly without typos, it's stupid not to get a hardware keyboard... and lebanese type in arabic with latin font, so autocorrection and dictionaries on touchscreen phones don't help much...
EddieEC
Yet on MTC blackberry is more expensive. $10 for 50 MB, and every MB extra is $0.1, so for $40 using the $10 gprs pack, you'd get 300 MB, triple the limit on of the blackberry plan, for the same price.
For the $15 gprs pack, you'd get 350 MB.
BB plan, $40 100 MB limit.
MTC is weird. In fact, everything in Lebanon is weird.
bbguy
Hi guys,
I have an Alfa postpaid line. I knew after calling 111 that their APN is mic1.alfa.com.lb and the username/password is mic1/mic1.
How can i use them on my BB to benefit from the service without subscribing to bb and paying 40$.
Appreciate your feedback asap with full info cuz am kind of new to this.. Thanks a lot for replying :)
samer
bbguy wroteHi guys,
I have an Alfa postpaid line. I knew after calling 111 that their APN is mic1.alfa.com.lb and the username/password is mic1/mic1.
How can i use them on my BB to benefit from the service without subscribing to bb and paying 40$.
Appreciate your feedback asap with full info cuz am kind of new to this.. Thanks a lot for replying :)
Subscribe to their 10$/month GPRS service. You won't have access to BBM, email or the BIS-dependent apps (which include all google apps and facebook).
bbguy
Samer thank u so much for your reply. 1st i will call 111 to subscribe to 10$ gprs and then whats the next step? more over, how many MB can i use?
Thank you again!
samer
bbguy wroteSamer thank u so much for your reply. 1st i will call 111 to subscribe to 10$ gprs and then whats the next step? more over, how many MB can i use?
Thank you again!
Then you configure your phone.
50 MB 10$/month
120 MB 15$/month
250 MB 25$/month
bbguy
thanks for the info!
Do i have extra benefits in case i used Alfa-GPRS on BB?
In other words, i have AN Alfa postpaid line and i have 2 cellphones: Nokia e66 & BB 8900 curve. should i use my bb or e66 ? is there anyone better in terms of Price, Speed, MB consumption?
Thank you once again for helping me!
samer
The BB requires the BIS to do mostly everything except browsing. Use the nokia.
