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Looks like they found water on the moon finally after years of hard work and billions of dollars spent. Basically what they found is about 25 gallons of water :P They spent 79$ million dollars to get 25 gallons of water(expensive water :P) anyways what do you think about this discovery? Basically I think it is a good step but still Nasa dreams a lot and those 79$ million could have been spent in a better way in feeding hungry people I guess. http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/11/13/water.moon.nasa/index.html :)
Moon Water :-D
why do i sense that there is something common between Microsoft and NASA :P

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@ayman: empathy is not working im downloading pidgin . wait for me
why do i sense that there is something common between Microsoft and NASA :P
What is common?
one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind :P "Neil Armstrong"
and i think 79$ million is nothing
one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind :P "Neil Armstrong"
and i think 79$ million is nothing
I know but the thing is that we have trouble keeping this planet under control, why expand?
very interesting !
It gives hope for finding water on MARS
i don't think this is useless at all, this an awesome discovery. The future of mankind depends on either we could harvest the space or not.
AymanFarhat wrote79$ million could have been spent in a better way in feeding hungry people I guess
i say stop producing arms and stop war research and use their money to feel people, do scientific research, and stop world's pollution this is better.
every scientific discovery is worth paying for. without people wasting their time on this stuff you won't be living in the world you live today, without the money and time you waste today you won't be living in the world tomorrow

@jadberro: it is not a useless research at all ! what is useless is the whole economic system letting us pay for stuff we own and we benefit from
you can't put a price tag on knowledge.

plus it's not useless, it will open the door to new things. and it's just a very small part of the whole nasa project to build a base on the moon.
79$ million could have been spent in a better way in feeding hungry people I guess
Sorry to say, but majority of this hungry people not willing to work. My friend was working at UN mission at Africa, and told me very negative story about it. India is example of nation who found way to evolve and work, and thats why they are solving their issue with poor people.

Science is required. Water on moon significant step. If we can establish base on moon, it can be used as launchpad and assembly place for sophisticated space missions. Some of the steps can be just dangerous for people on earth, and there they can use poisonous chemicals(but more powerful) and nuclear materials, that is banned on earth, and most important it is much easier to launch large vehicles from moon (less gravity).
nuclearcat wroteSorry to say, but majority of this hungry people not willing to work. My friend was working at UN mission at Africa, and told me very negative story about it.
are you serious? the MAJORITY? probably some, yes, but the MAJORITY? are you serious?
you know that most of the people who are poor are people who actually work. they just get the worst jobs and get paid 1$/month.
and for africa, if there are no jobs available, how can you work? or maybe this guy is just too lazy to work: http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42378000/jpg/_42378097_kidap203.jpg
or he's not part of the "majority" of poor people as you call them? if not, then who's that majority? where are they? if they are the MAJORITY, they should be easy to identify.


i'm sorry, but i find it outrageous not to feel compassion with these people and putting all the blame on them for being "lazy" and not wanting to work. when you're sick, can't find food, water, ... where do you want to work? people who usually don't WANT to work are people in europe/usa/... who are just ok for living at the expense of the government. that's NOT the case in africa, india, ...
nuclearcat wrote:

Sorry to say, but majority of this hungry people not willing to work. My friend was working at UN mission at Africa, and told me very negative story about it.

are you serious? the MAJORITY? probably some, yes, but the MAJORITY? are you serious?
you know that most of the people who are poor are people who actually work. they just get the worst jobs and get paid 1$/month.
and for africa, if there are no jobs available, how can you work? or maybe this guy is just too lazy to work: http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/4 … dap203.jpg
or he's not part of the "majority" of poor people as you call them? if not, then who's that majority? where are they? if they are the MAJORITY, they should be easy to identify.


i'm sorry, but i find it outrageous not to feel compassion with these people and putting all the blame on them for being "lazy" and not wanting to work. when you're sick, can't find food, water, ... where do you want to work? people who usually don't WANT to work are people in europe/usa/... who are just ok for living at the expense of the government. that's NOT the case in africa, india, ...
Agree, in addition even if all what nuclearcat was saying true still there are the innocent children who are either exploited and made to work for less than 1$/day or fight in wars. Please note that every 5 seconds a child dies from poverty,

I am not saying that science and outer space exploration is not important nor that we don't need to start exploring other planets and moons for the survival of human kind + we need science all kinds of sciences, but it is just that there are priorities in human life, global society and morality. If you want to talk about people who don't work well there are more of those people in the "1st world countries" than in underdeveloped countries.

I think there is enough money to be spent on both, science and development, and bringing equality among people, but some world leaders just want to satisfy their own people race and nation. Btw everyone knows for whom Nasa belongs to. so in case human beings are to migrate to the moon some day before life ends on earth the people from developed countries are to go first. people from third world countries like us will be the last or even may not be able to make it up there ;)

In addition, in my opinion money is being spent on making dead planets alive and able to shelter human beings. have you guys ever thought how much pollution does each space launch produce? Instead of spending money on finding frozen water on them moon we could invest in our planet wont that be easier? for example supporting organic planting, planting new trees, funding alternative fuel projects such as the air car, teaching third world countries to use energy efficiently, creating schools and shelters for the homeless, ending wars in Africa etc... Dont you call that science? Of course this needs science and exploration too :)

But the source of the problem is nothing but economy, marketing, business, power and greed. After we solve our problems on earth, we can then enjoy spending our extra millions of dollars on making the moon alive ;)
79$ million...the debt of Lebanon is more :P
79$ million...the debt of Lebanon is more :P
That's true, I am not talking about just the 79$ million alone, I am talking about the billions that were spent and will be spent each year. :)
I think Lebanese dept will get more each year :P
battikh wroteare you serious? the MAJORITY? probably some, yes, but the MAJORITY? are you serious?
you know that most of the people who are poor are people who actually work. they just get the worst jobs and get paid 1$/month.
and for africa, if there are no jobs available, how can you work? or maybe this guy is just too lazy to work: http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42378000/jpg/_42378097_kidap203.jpg
or he's not part of the "majority" of poor people as you call them? if not, then who's that majority? where are they? if they are the MAJORITY, they should be easy to identify.


i'm sorry, but i find it outrageous not to feel compassion with these people and putting all the blame on them for being "lazy" and not wanting to work. when you're sick, can't find food, water, ... where do you want to work? people who usually don't WANT to work are people in europe/usa/... who are just ok for living at the expense of the government. that's NOT the case in africa, india, ...
Sorry, suffering kids pictures won't make me sob and cry. Yes, i agree they deserve better life, but even you give them some help, their adult neighbours will steal all of that.
I can post also some pics where "black" people doing evil things, but it is not a solution.

Yes, i am sure, i will say again: MAJORITY. _Not all_, but majority.

Look at Nigeria, "oil" country, rich people having fun in expensive boats and vine in one side, and extreme poverty (people don't know what is electricity even) on another side.

Look at Republic of South Africa. When "whites" was running it, it was most successful country in Africa. After apartheid was finished(20 years ago) economics jumped up, but mostly because of removed sanctions. Now it is country with highest crime level. Some info from wiki:
It is estimated that a woman born in South Africa has a greater chance of being raped than learning how to read. One in three of the 4,000 women questioned by the Community of Information, Empowerment and Transparency said they had been raped in the past year. South Africa has some of the highest incidences of child and baby rape in the world. In a related survey conducted among 1,500 schoolchildren in the Soweto township, a quarter of all the boys interviewed said that 'jackrolling', a term for gang rape, was fun.

Can you believe HUMANS can do that? Can you believe such schoolchildren in other countries? They got now all rights, what the heck they need more?

Along with many African nations, South Africa has been experiencing a "brain drain" in the past 20 years. This is believed to be potentially damaging for the regional economy, and is almost certainly detrimental for the well-being of the majority of people reliant on the healthcare infrastructure, given the HIV/AIDS epidemic. The skills drain in South Africa tends to demonstrate racial contours (naturally given the skills distribution legacy of South Africa) and has thus resulted in large white South African communities abroad.

And last question, why in USA it is well know dangerous for "white" to appear at evening in "black" area?
Why doesn't happen such in chinese, russian or any other "national ghetto" in same USA?
Why you can see tons of "homeless" black people asking for few dollars and it is very difficult to find such chinese?

The most strange thing i will say, issue is not that "black" people is worse than others, but problem that "white" people corrupted them. "Whites" feel sorry for crime that happen hundreds of years ago, and smallest issue happen, if criminal with black skin will start to cry about tolerance and racism, whites will feel sorry and try to "sort out issue". This simply corrupts and leaves the criminals go unpunished. Another case, many my friends faced, when you search a job and you have competition, it is enough for "other race" person to say that potential employer going to exclude him from racism reasons, that will make employer scared, and will force to accept "other race" person even with worse skills. Everybody should get equal punishment, fair job distribution by skills, and not skin color.

Another issue is religion. It is well known by my friends, that african muslims much better in everything (education, manners). And most important, it is much less HIV/AIDS infection rate between african muslims, than africans with other religions. Guess why. But this question is unclear for me, because for example Somalia is mostly muslim area, but still drowning in violence.

I know many other countries, where kids are suffering, and they need help.
Good example is India and China. They was very poor, but they are changing their life and their life becoming better. Another example Vietnam and Cambodia. They had a war, very bloody war, they was almost destroyed. Now they are much better. Look to many other nations, who have big challenges, most of them solved their issues.
And only few, associated with "permanent need for help". You should not send them just food, it is corrupting them and degrading them, better offer is to help them to improve their agriculture, so they can feed themselves.

Sure this money can be spent all to save thousands of lifes just by giving them food, but if they are spent for science, they will save millions and billions lifes in future. Science requires victims. And more important, don't live just for today needs, think about future.
@battikh you may be right, but nobody asked you to defend the people.
rolf wrote@battikh you may be right, but nobody asked you to defend the people.
and you're supposed to wait for someone to ASK you before acting as per your standards and based on what you find is right?
or should you see wrong theories being spread and just shut up?
Paris. Today news. Sorry, i decide to post this.
http://pics.livejournal.com/drugoi/pic/00wqbrrd.jpg

Some ISP made advertising, and part of advertising was free gifts (money). Police told them to not do that.
Youngsters from Paris suburbs start to fight...

Probably we must fund moon exploration ASAP. So we can send such people there.