Introducing a "Hero of the day"

teodorgeorgiev · 2009-08-09T18:23:04+00:00

L. and G. I am glad to introduce you here one of the gravediggers of the Lebanese hope for decent broadband Internet:...

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The majority of managerial positions in the lebanese government are evil.

teodorgeorgiev

Each person has his own dignity and rights (being free, possess property, expresss freedom of speech), whose rights have to be kept and obeyed. As stated by the constitution :)

But in certain (backed on law only!) cases these rights could be broken - freedom rights can be suspended and the person put under arrest, property could be
expropriated and confiscated, freedom of speech could be suspended if it is extremely dangerous and might cause severe harms.

This person, Raif, by his irresponsible, neglected and abusive attitude is insulting all the Lebanese Internet users and causing them mental pain (any of you being nervous due to the frequent Internet outages, slow speed and such?).

Therefore, every insult that he might take from a Lebanese Internet user is not unlawful (sleep calm, Samer) as it has been provoked by Mr. Raif behavior unconcern about their fate.

Remember the reciprocal rule - if someone insults you and you insult back, both of you can't be held responsible for your words.

WizaRd

Well mir, I hope your post was sarcastic concerning the guy's job position... No one really gives a damn about goals and job milestones.

Furthermore, someone hired straight away from college into that kind of job levels is really something interesting by itself.

Having done zero papers beside describing a unit's workflow - as stated on his CV - you're kidding me right ?!?!

He doesn't even have at least some kind of certificates that for convenience sake, should justify his current job position and the impact such a job has on our whole country.

For once, (and that's rare) i can identify with what teodor is trying to say. Put aside the proofs, papers or whatever concrete facts you want. This is really a no-brainer: the guy is protected somehow, political crap ofc.

What can we do?

Now that's a good question.

samer

Here's the bottom line. That guy has obviously done a very bad job and has failed us all.
Today, the biggest hope for a decent internet in Lebanon is the Lebanese Broadband Stakeholders Group and I think any action related to uncover what this guy has really done can be done through them. They seem to have enough lobby to actually achieve something.

Teodor, what do you suggest? What do you think should be done for the whole internet situation to be solved?
If we get the people on the streets, do you have a cost-effective plan that would get this country some decent internet within 5 years? If yes, I really suggest we discuss this in a new topic.

teodorgeorgiev

Flyingwizard wroteWell mir, I hope your post was sarcastic concerning the guy's job position... No one really gives a damn about goals and job milestones.

Furthermore, someone hired straight away from college into that kind of job levels is really something interesting by itself.

Having done zero papers beside describing a unit's workflow - as stated on his CV - you're kidding me right ?!?!

He doesn't even have at least some kind of certificates that for convenience sake, should justify his current job position and the impact such a job has on our whole country.

For once, (and that's rare) i can identify with what teodor is trying to say. Put aside the proofs, papers or whatever concrete facts you want. This is really a no-brainer: the guy is protected somehow, political crap ofc.

What can we do?

Now that's a good question.

Indeed - yes, even if he has no PhD, he should gain some solid technical experience + some certificates (at least some damn MCSE for God sake!!!) and then
hired at such a position. And since his job is in the public sector, he should be hired after a competition process has been performed and him being short-listed as the best candidate based on some kind of criterias (and NO - "my daddy is... my uncle is..." is not a criteria).

And - we should do give a damn about goals and milestones. The government and its employees should stop behaving like the country belongs to them and their fathers. They are just employees of the state and those who pay their salaries, so they should report regularly on the achieved goals and milestones and in case of unsastified performance - BEING FIRED. This is how business works.

Indeed I do not care that much about how much he has taken in bribes. But, believe me, his work is directed into keeping Lebanon in shit and like this giving Ogero and MPT (and the people who sit on the top) the opportunity to control the country and fill their pockets (and these pockets HAVE NO FUCKING BOTTOM AS WE SEE).

Face it, this person IS A CRIMINAL and in a normal country he would be brought to court and sued for the damage he has caused to the state and its citizens!
You may laught at me, but this can be described easily as GENOCIDE! By putting brakes to Internet propagation they doom the youth of Lebanon to lack of
proper intellectual development!

People like him should be executed, buried, then exhumated, brought back to life with eletricity and then killed again!!! And of course - pierced with a stake right into his heart, like it is said to do with vampires!

BashLogic

the issue that has risen here at this point is more oriented on your tone and approach of the subject instead of your subject.
you are being very subjective about your anger and your dissatisfaction with this guy. you began this thread by pointing fingers and expressing your dissatisfaction and did not make it clear as what you were trying to say. so far we all have concluded that this guys CV does not suffice to fill the job requirement and is a typical lebanese cv where one becomes and uber fuhrer manager at a give position etc.

well, my dissapointment at this point is with you! I cant be bothered by such characters to whom you pointed, there are one too many of those in lebanon, if you havent figured that out it, maybe its time to move on its the plain fact and reality of how things work against all our wishes and hopes in that country.

you stated that you have worked as a manager, well if you were a manager and working under me with such a manner of expression and loosing your objective along the way, I would throw a bucket of cold water on you and put you on a forced leave to cool down! why so? simply because anger and rage seldom is constructive! you opened a thread with a subject that has an objective of being debated etc. instead this so far has turned into the case of people being confused of what exactly you are trying to state and your anger. at this point i would even start questioning whether your account on this forum has been hacked and some one posting with your account! so when you want to discuss and review something, Keep yourself in line and dont whirl off with your anger and verbal lashing!

at this point i would say, clean up your act! and act more professional at least to the level of profesioncy you have presented yourself as worked and working as a manager.

yet i thank you for your effort on trying to pointing things out, and i thank you even more for stirring things a bit waking up the forum members to post :) ! i guess this has turned out to be a win-win case after all, you have got to release your anger and frustration and the forum got a bit of activity!

anyhow This thread has gone of rails and could very well just be removed. another thread could be launched with snips of the actual subject better presented and in a more clear manner to which people can reply to.

teodorgeorgiev

samer wroteHere's the bottom line. That guy has obviously done a very bad job and has failed us all.
Today, the biggest hope for a decent internet in Lebanon is the Lebanese Broadband Stakeholders Group and I think any action related to uncover what this guy has really done can be done through them. They seem to have enough lobby to actually achieve something.

Teodor, what do you suggest? What do you think should be done for the whole internet situation to be solved?
If we get the people on the streets, do you have a cost-effective plan that would get this country some decent internet within 5 years? If yes, I really suggest we discuss this in a new topic.

I have an effective plan how this country can get decent Internet within 2 months of hard work, really hard, but lets say - 4 months, as when we speak about Lebanon this is not only Beirut, but also towns like Tripoli and Saida.

There are only two steps to be done:

1. Increasing the international bandwidth capacity of the state

2. building high-speed internal links between the ISPs and towns in order to distribute this international bandwidth.

About 1 --> MPT, Ogero and TRA are to be asked (investigated?) for an update with the I-ME-WE project. They should report weekly. Also, every licensed ISP must be allowed to buy directly from this pipe. Now MPT plans to sell a separate license for one company (mommy n daddy) that will solely have access to the
pipe (for a price of 30M USD, rumours) and then resell it to the ISPs at a price (the company will decide the price).

About 2 --> http://tg.spnet.net/Lebanon-Internet-project.doc

As you may see due to the public pressure the Lebanese TRA is playing now another game - they are not playing "eleet, cool madafakas" and ignore everyone, now they are playing polite and nice and try to show that they are also "on our side". On their website they declare their support for the broadband manifest.

http://www.tra.gov.lb/Broadband-Manifesto

As you see, public pressure gives results. By putting more pressure to them (TRA, MPT, Ogero) they will start stepping back. As a beginning they have to
be forced to report monthly in public what they have done for the state! A report for the past month + a plan for the next one!

P.S. For your information I will put some more light on Raif Oueidat. Ahmad-Bassam Oueidat is a minister Consultant at Ministry of Energy. More papers, Samer
or we need to replace the conductors in your head with semiconductors? :)

rolf

teodorgeorgiev wrotePeople like him should be executed, buried, then exhumated, brought back to life with eletricity and then killed again!!! And of course - pierced with a stake right into his heart, like it is said to do with vampires!

It is peoples right not to be under the power of idiots. Freedom is a right.
But it is also everyone's right to have a fair trial...

Anyway regarding that guy, I think that if he calls himself a "Senior Interconnexion Expert" then he has to take responsibilities for this title. But teo you are not telling us how his position is related to the sorry state of the internet in this country. He was technical vice president... ie responsible for technical vice aspects, and now he is interconnexion expert, responsible for interconnexion. He does not have any responsibility over the prices of license, backbone monopoly...

On the other hand, he is indirectly responsible for supporting this system. It is like the dilemma... do we imprison Adolf Hitler's janitor?
On one hand, he was just cleaning Hitler's office, on the other hand, he did indirectly support the nazi regime, and even if in an inderect and negligible manner, maybe he should be held responsible for it. If he is, then maybe next tame a crazy dictator comes to power, then nobody will dare to clean his floor, and he will have to do it himself...

We all do bad things because they think they can get away with it by making up excuses (i didnt know! I was afraid! I was just trying to do my job!) or by lying (They forced me to do that, I tried to defend myself but I couldnt! It was horrible I suffered all the time!) or any other escape strategy...

teodorgeorgiev

More information about the IMEWE cable system:

http://imewecable.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-ME-WE

P.S. Rolf, The generals around Adolf Hilter, the ministers and other masterminds like Rudolf Hess were sued in the Nurenberg trial.

hj88

you can see ogero's logo on http://imewecable.com/ but it is sooooooo small I wonder why :-)

teodorgeorgiev

hj88, don't turn anything into fun. It could be much worse if the name/logo of Ogero is completely absent ob he website.

Who is with me to make a petition where we request/demand information about the IMEWE process from MPT/Ogero/TRA ?

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