tmash2 wroteMy own experience
I wasn't able to exceed 200GB per month incl. night downloads and that was usual Netflix and Youtube combo by 2 members in the house, throttled like shit every day, like you said never really reached 1TB on Ogero that was a hint what unlimited truly means, while I average 400-600GB now on Ogero 4MBit w/o slowdowns. (peaked 800GB)
Most likely you tried to download at evening hours, then yes, no miracle can happen. At lockdown situation worse and sometimes FUP is enabled from morning, because of load from e-schooling.
If person is not capable to reschedule downloads at night by various reasons, then no doubt Ogero end-user service better in this matters.
tmash2 wrote
Also, last time I had a problem with the line (due to rain) they directed me to Ogero anyways, Ogero's phone support is at least responsive from my experience, although useless but not neglectful, and not having to call all day is a plus. Another incident was due to an Ogero network issue when I called THGV support, they replied: "problem is with Ogero not us, wait 2 hours".
It depends where is bottleneck.
If you are congested by your own DSL line (bottleneck on DSLAM port), then yes. If you have decent DSL connection and your bottleneck is shaper from THGV side - then you can have QoS with fair queuing.
If your DSL line bad, i doubt you can have luck with any ISP over it. And as you had problems in rain, it seems wiring to your location is in very bad shape.
tmash2 wrote
And no, there is a huge bufferbloat on downloads if that is what you mean by QoS? 2 thread download halted the internet as well not just latency. And yeah the additional latency is around 15ms, way more (25-40ish) during peak hours no-load, unlike Ogero which never changes in comparison (Ogero has bufferbloat issue too), although the packet loss is good on THGV compared to my old Terranet.
Bufferbloat cause in your case is very likely from DSL equipment. As Ogero is monopoly in this matters - its not fixable.
tmash2 wrote
"Nerds spend half their lives on shooters"? What? It affects many things, including VoIP and video chats, especially if it varies, plus I was answering ZER0 regarding gaming, this also affects casual games, even browser games! I play RL around 2 hours a week and that was unplayable due to variation and spikes.
VoIP and conferencing works just fine up to (approx) 200ms latency.
tmash2 wrote
"THGV has users who download hundreds of terabytes" ooookay, I wouldn't be able to do that on 300M Fiber back in UAE. You mean yearly? But you were talking monthly (Ogero) in a relative context. Or you phrased that wrong, sum of all users? Ogero is leaps ahead for sure as you mentioned in another post.
I'll tell you the alarming news - if you could not download hundreds of terabytes to UAE on 300Mbps, then the reason is not in the Internet connection / provider.
This is just random snip from 3 BRAS top user sessions, as i dont want to query billing data.
And yes, unfortunately lockdown numbers are way worse than i usually see. Even top users are in 5-10TB range, it was way more before lockdown.
Username, current session data, uptime
mahdiXXXX | 49.2 GiB | 11:38:05 | active
skynetXXXX | 47.8 GiB | 21:36:37 | active
nassXXXXX | 44.9 GiB | 16:37:45 | active
medlijXXX | 151.8 GiB | 1.14:12:25
thXXX | 2268.8 GiB | 24.01:15:38
mmXX | 96.0 GiB | 17:52:52
MAHX | 156.7 GiB | 2.15:31:52
netXXX | 155.8 GiB | 15:57:10
User reached 100TB was very unusual and it was while ago, he was clever dude with exceptionally good setup and didn't ever disconnected for whole month, and he found what content are cached locally and used night bypass 100Mbps every night (approx 8 hours of such bypass), doing about 300-330Gb every night, and tens of GB per day.
So on 300Mbit in UAE - 100TB+ should be piece of cake.
tmash2 wrote
"1) Your upload is asymmetrical. Hello video conferencing, unless you do it alone." How's that related? How's THGV better in this regard? I got the same 1MBit upload, we're talking ADSL here. Plus your page says that 50/10mbit VDSL service is that symmetrical? Do you mean ADSL Annex M? I wasn't offered that either, but that's still (barely) asymmetric for 4mbit download 2-3 up no?
This was just my personal experience (and) as reported by multiple users on this forum, no offense intended, maybe it's just bad luck?
People disconnect from DSL and go to cable (THGV too), because they have 2+ children at home doing eschooling.
They dont need to worry also about draining their quota, because FUP still better than quota, especially in current economical situation.
As i recall THGV can offer VDSL and Fiber services too, where Ogero have them, at least i see such users online.
tmash2 wrote
The last two paragraphs are pretty shocking and unexpected to be honest... I'm sorry that you took it the wrong way. I just didn't see any speed increase as you mentioned in the THGV feedback post, you mean deduct from plan usage? Either way I was on an unlimited 4MBit plan and that was just my experience and I didn't get any of that CDN boost as an end-user, not the only one to report that either though take it with a grain of salt. The boost acted like any local wireless ISP in the past, only unencrypted connections. THGV never mentioned CDN as a feature anywhere unless I'm mistaken.
I did personally system that bypass IPTV and Netflix(locally cached) traffic from quota (it wont count in unlimited FUP too). There is some other classes added, that i cannot disclose, mostly to protect economically disadvantaged groups of people using this type of content for non-entertainment purposes, so they wont be hurt by FUP or quota.
THGV have several racks of CDN servers from various providers, all of them is encrypted and it is not typical proxy caching, they are also offered on higher speed than usual, international traffic. Unfortunately if your DSL speed is very low, most likely you wont notice that, because your bottleneck is Ogero DSL link.
Unencrypted proxy present too, but traffic through them is negligible, comparing with CDN.
tmash2 wrote
Edit:"YouTube and Netflix weren't offloaded either, only certain titles from Steam and few non-encrypted sources (HTTP/FTP), not really a CDN, more like caching." My feedback as a user, I could be wrong about CDNs, but I'm not speaking on behalf of the company or saying "THGV does not use CDNs" Your feedback post explained what a CDN service offers with THGV and my conclusion came from not meeting the criteria you noted, and didn't get any of it's benefits, so I didn't get "CDN" as a feature, I got simple caching. Please enlighten us. YouTube or Netflix as well as other not very popular sites weren't offloaded speed-wise, and you mentioned that Content Delivery Networks offloads these...
Google content, Facebook, Netflix, several CDN providers, mostly used for heavy content (for example Steam, Sony playstation use them) - are locally hosted in Lebanon. THGV is not exclusive in that, Ogero, IDM, Terranet have some of them too, but most of ISP deliver within your account speed and wont make any discount. On THGV i have for example at this moment set bypass Netflix 50Mbps+ for titles that are cached locally in Lebanon, on local node. And as i said before Netflix is not counted in quota, but it is not announced officially, because it is hard to predict what is cached and what is not.
tmash2 wrote
"factually correct" based on what? I didn't mention any facts, and this is up to the end-user to report their experiences, they aren't facts either, they're feedback, usually, you analyze reports like any other user when applying for a service, especially in this country, I actually subscribed to the service due to your positive and well-versed input on the feedback page and thought I'd give it a try... Didn't work for me maybe it works for others! I'm not dishonoring myself by providing my feedback, never went against facts...
When you say that this is just "caching unencrypted traffic", you are putting your geek reputation on the line.
What your claims you based on? Tactile sensations, or did you do some more or less technical research on traffic sources and speeds?
Moreover, judging by the above, your problem with speed is mainly not in the provider, but in the speed of the DSL line, making such research just impossible.