anayman_k7 wrote
yes you are right , it wont fit the case but what if I break the HDD tray ? you know , that aluminum / plastic tray that stands right in the way of the vga , and also I really like the looks for that case and I dont want another one , I dont mind doing extra work as long as it is possible
I do not recommend, these small low cost cases rely heavily on the smallest structure basics, you will just make it paper like weak and it might collapse because of the PSU/HDD weight, the premium version card is heavy and long, it is even sagging on ATX motherboards with steel reinforced PCIE slots, go with the mini, very acceptable.
you are right again . but I wanna take the risks , I checked out all the cases at pcandparts ( haha only the ones under 70$ ) and I only liked the mx200 .. not bcz of the price tho ( I would pay extra 20$ for it ) , so I wanna take the risk if you can confirm that the vga will fit between the 4 case sides
Check Cougar MX310 Mid Tower Case Link $36.00
It is a good case for the price also, I built a system with it before, has all the features for low price, it fits up to 310mm length cards without removing the cage.

Edit: I do recommend adding 8GB RAM instead of paying extra for another VGA model or for a better case, 8GB is bare minimum these days
Heyyyyy i wasnt bashing or anything, its just that these forums doesnt allow Smilies, that why my reply sounded so serious hahaha
I got banned multiple times for talking with abreviations. Anyway yeah true , i have the i7 4790k got it for 400$ and bought a cpu cooler for 100$
But just to tell you something, i used to play on laptops and never cared about high end gaming or anything . Not even gaming laptops haha
I spent one year playing on Intel Hd graphics 4000,no graphics card at all, playing WOW and Ghost recon online haha.
I remember i took permission to laugh here on the forums lol
Anyways as i said, wait for the 1050. It is rumored to be released this month. You dont HAVE to buy the 1070, u can be satisfied with just a 960 lol
EDIT: I might have been under the effect of a hangover when i wrote that comment, i read it now and am surprised how it sounded haha
Alpha wrote
anayman_k7 wrotei5 (6500) and GTX1070 for 900$ is a very hard fit, I managed to do it for 920.7$

Here is my build (prices here with no TVA), if there is a more echo option ill mention it under the item:

1- Skylake 3.20 GHz - i5-6500 6M/LGA1151 $193.00
* Choosing i5-6400 ($178.00) will save you 15$ but 2.7Ghz is low!!!

2- Asus H110M-K D3 micro-ATX (DDR3) (LGA1151) Link $61.00
* Choosing Asrock H110M-HDS (56$) will save you 4$ because you will have to pay extra 1$ for RAM (DDR4 cheapest 8GB), I chose this DDR3 board because it is the cheapest 1151 board with a known manufacturer (Asus)

3- HyperX Fury Black Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model HX316C10FB/8 for $39.00
* This is the cheapest 8GB stick at pcandparts

4- Cougar CG-MX200 Mid Tower Case Link $24.00
* Cheapest mid tower case with pre-included fans (2), 120mm intake front with red led and 90mm exhaust, has 1 usb3.

5- 1TB WD10EZEX 7200RPM SATAIII 64MB $49.00
* Choosing 500GB WD ($45) saves you 4$ but not worth it, loosing a lot of capacity in storage and cache

6- Zotac ZT-P10700G-10M GeForce GTX 1070 Mini 8GB GDDR5 Super Compact Now in stock $425.00
* Cheapest GTX1070 and fits in the case

7- Cooler Master RS500-ACABB1 B500W Ver.2 500W PSU (85% efficiency) Link $46.00
* Cheapest PSU with an acceptable power output and quality

Total Price = 837$ + 10% = 920.7$ ~ 921$

Shipping cost depends on your area, I expect that the weight will be in 10 - 15 KG

Notes: No DVD included, you need to install windows using a USB drive

This is the best I can do with this budget
btw what do you mean by "because it is the cheapest 1151 board" ? what is a 1151 ?
Thank You Ayman for your Effort,

Objectively and from my experience as a gaming enthusiast , a person can build a gaming Desktop at strict budgets (900-1000USD) however it will be on the sacrifice of the components quality: The PSU unit is a tier 5 or 6 one (very bad) , 16 GB Ram is standard now a days as some demanding games with some few applications running in the background will tip above 10GB of Ram consumption easily. Case is very mediocre with bad cable management , no DVD no Genuine Windows , No Monitor , No SSD , no peripherals and you already hitting the 921 USD line . Overall a gaming PC has at least a budget of 1500 USD for current generation of titles with some reliable components.
Satfoun wroteHeyyyyy i wasnt bashing or anything, its just that these forums doesnt allow Smilies, that why my reply sounded so serious hahaha
I got banned multiple times for talking with abreviations. Anyway yeah true , i have the i7 4790k got it for 400$ and bought a cpu cooler for 100$
But just to tell you something, i used to play on laptops and never cared about high end gaming or anything . Not even gaming laptops haha
I spent one year playing on Intel Hd graphics 4000,no graphics card at all, playing WOW and Ghost recon online haha.
I remember i took permission to laugh here on the forums lol
Anyways as i said, wait for the 1050. It is rumored to be released this month. You dont HAVE to buy the 1070, u can be satisfied with just a 960 lol
EDIT: I might have been under the effect of a hangover when i wrote that comment, i read it now and am surprised how it sounded haha
Guy asks about parts for his pc you start boasting about how you are studying architecture NOBODY CARES you have a $3000 pc NOBODY CARES.
I'd recommend paying more for a case, specifically an H440 great cable management and will probably last you a long time.
btw what do you mean by "because it is the cheapest 1151 board" ? what is a 1151 ?
I missed that part, LGA1151 is the socket of the Skylake desktop cpu, so i6-6500 cpu is a cpu with 1151 pins that requires a motherboard with LGA1151 port to be able to use on.
So the sentence means that this is the cheapest compatible board with the i5-6500 manufactured by a known brand, Asus (my selection)
With that budget, go for a 1060 and get a decent PSU and case with good cable management. Invest a little more in your cooling to maximize your parts life.
I still have a 780 that runs (almost) everything on max graphics.
I think a 1060 is enough.
Satfoun wroteHeyyyyy i wasnt bashing or anything, its just that these forums doesnt allow Smilies, that why my reply sounded so serious hahaha
I got banned multiple times for talking with abreviations. Anyway yeah true , i have the i7 4790k got it for 400$ and bought a cpu cooler for 100$
But just to tell you something, i used to play on laptops and never cared about high end gaming or anything . Not even gaming laptops haha
I spent one year playing on Intel Hd graphics 4000,no graphics card at all, playing WOW and Ghost recon online haha.
I remember i took permission to laugh here on the forums lol
Anyways as i said, wait for the 1050. It is rumored to be released this month. You dont HAVE to buy the 1070, u can be satisfied with just a 960 lol
EDIT: I might have been under the effect of a hangover when i wrote that comment, i read it now and am surprised how it sounded haha
haha now you sound like a gentleman ,, but why a gtx1050 , I can afford a 1060 with no problem and still have extra money
nas93 wrote
Satfoun wroteHeyyyyy i wasnt bashing or anything, its just that these forums doesnt allow Smilies, that why my reply sounded so serious hahaha
I got banned multiple times for talking with abreviations. Anyway yeah true , i have the i7 4790k got it for 400$ and bought a cpu cooler for 100$
But just to tell you something, i used to play on laptops and never cared about high end gaming or anything . Not even gaming laptops haha
I spent one year playing on Intel Hd graphics 4000,no graphics card at all, playing WOW and Ghost recon online haha.
I remember i took permission to laugh here on the forums lol
Anyways as i said, wait for the 1050. It is rumored to be released this month. You dont HAVE to buy the 1070, u can be satisfied with just a 960 lol
EDIT: I might have been under the effect of a hangover when i wrote that comment, i read it now and am surprised how it sounded haha
You sound like a real douchebag. Guy asks about parts for his pc you start boasting about how you are studying architecture NOBODY CARES you have a $3000 pc NOBODY CARES.
I'd recommend paying more for a case, specifically an H440 great cable management and will probably last you a long time.
haha its okay bro , maybe he was having a bad day idk ,
for the case , I wont change my mind , it looks too good to be left by me hehe
anayman_k7 wrote
btw what do you mean by "because it is the cheapest 1151 board" ? what is a 1151 ?
I missed that part, LGA1151 is the socket of the Skylake desktop cpu, so i6-6500 cpu is a cpu with 1151 pins that requires a motherboard with LGA1151 port to be able to use on.
So the sentence means that this is the cheapest compatible board with the i5-6500 manufactured by a known brand, Asus (my selection)
oh I get it now , but I am open to try the ASrock , ive heard so much good things about this brand ,
but you can state why wanna avoid Asrock , maybe you have a point ( as always lol )
but its like 5$ more so ill go with your choice
anayman_k7 wroteCheck Cougar MX310 Mid Tower Case Link $36.00
It is a good case for the price also, I built a system with it before, has all the features for low price, it fits up to 310mm length cards without removing the cage.

Edit: I do recommend adding 8GB RAM instead of paying extra for another VGA model or for a better case, 8GB is bare minimum these days
I was impressed by the features but the case looks is defentely a turn off , can you confirm that the gtx1070 with 3 fans can fit in the case if I break the trays ?
and do you mean 16 gb ? I thought the latest games require 6gb max
Alpha wrote
anayman_k7 wroteCheck Cougar MX310 Mid Tower Case Link $36.00
It is a good case for the price also, I built a system with it before, has all the features for low price, it fits up to 310mm length cards without removing the cage.

Edit: I do recommend adding 8GB RAM instead of paying extra for another VGA model or for a better case, 8GB is bare minimum these days
I was impressed by the features but the case looks is defentely a turn off , can you confirm that the gtx1070 with 3 fans can fit in the case if I break the trays ?
and do you mean 16 gb ? I thought the latest games require 6gb max
Talking just numbers, after doing a deeper search I found out that the vga length is 303mm and the case GPU clearance is 310mm, so it fits but it will be probably heavy.

http://www.materiel.net/carte-graphique/zotac-geforce-gtx-1070-8-go-134298.html

Thats the card
anayman_k7 wrote
Alpha wrote
anayman_k7 wroteCheck Cougar MX310 Mid Tower Case Link $36.00
It is a good case for the price also, I built a system with it before, has all the features for low price, it fits up to 310mm length cards without removing the cage.

Edit: I do recommend adding 8GB RAM instead of paying extra for another VGA model or for a better case, 8GB is bare minimum these days
I was impressed by the features but the case looks is defentely a turn off , can you confirm that the gtx1070 with 3 fans can fit in the case if I break the trays ?
and do you mean 16 gb ? I thought the latest games require 6gb max
Talking just numbers, after doing a deeper search I found out that the vga length is 303mm and the case GPU clearance is 310mm, so it fits but it will be probably heavy.

http://www.materiel.net/carte-graphique/zotac-geforce-gtx-1070-8-go-134298.html

Thats the card
if both of the supercompact and the 3 fans gtx1070 would fit the case , but the 3 fans model was 16$ more , which one would you pick ?
and would I get an advantage in gaming with a ddr4 8gb over a ddr3 8gb one ?
just for extra knowledge but Im getting ddr4 anyway since it is literally 1$ more
Alpha wrote
anayman_k7 wrote
Alpha wrote I was impressed by the features but the case looks is defentely a turn off , can you confirm that the gtx1070 with 3 fans can fit in the case if I break the trays ?
and do you mean 16 gb ? I thought the latest games require 6gb max
Talking just numbers, after doing a deeper search I found out that the vga length is 303mm and the case GPU clearance is 310mm, so it fits but it will be probably heavy.

http://www.materiel.net/carte-graphique/zotac-geforce-gtx-1070-8-go-134298.html

Thats the card
if both of the supercompact and the 3 fans gtx1070 would fit the case , but the 3 fans model was 16$ more , which one would you pick ?
and would I get an advantage in gaming with a ddr4 8gb over a ddr3 8gb one ?
just for extra knowledge but Im getting ddr4 anyway since it is literally 1$ more
Well if you can pay little more over budget, yes it will help having the MX310 case with 3 fans card, it will cool much better and both together will make the CPU runs cooler for few degrees, but be aware that you need 1 more 120mm fan because this case comes with only 1 fan with it, as for the board, I suggest you don't choose the cheapest board, the board is essential and I expect that the cheap board will not live more than 1 to 1.5 years on gaming usage, so check if you can fit this board in your budget

Asus H110M-C micro-ATX (DDR4) (LGA1151) Link $72.00

Also for a fan, after long experience with CoolerMaster, Thermaltake, NZXT and Corsair, don't hesitate to pull the trigger on this fan
NZXT RF-FN122-RB FN V2 Case Fan 12CM Link $8.00
Cheapest in category and has rubber screw mounting points, very silent even at 100% RPM, the cable is braided and black and pushes a lot of air into your case
anayman_k7 wrote
Alpha wrote
anayman_k7 wrote
Talking just numbers, after doing a deeper search I found out that the vga length is 303mm and the case GPU clearance is 310mm, so it fits but it will be probably heavy.

http://www.materiel.net/carte-graphique/zotac-geforce-gtx-1070-8-go-134298.html

Thats the card
if both of the supercompact and the 3 fans gtx1070 would fit the case , but the 3 fans model was 16$ more , which one would you pick ?
and would I get an advantage in gaming with a ddr4 8gb over a ddr3 8gb one ?
just for extra knowledge but Im getting ddr4 anyway since it is literally 1$ more
Well if you can pay little more over budget, yes it will help having the MX310 case with 3 fans card, it will cool much better and both together will make the CPU runs cooler for few degrees, but be aware that you need 1 more 120mm fan because this case comes with only 1 fan with it, as for the board, I suggest you don't choose the cheapest board, the board is essential and I expect that the cheap board will not live more than 1 to 1.5 years on gaming usage, so check if you can fit this board in your budget

Asus H110M-C micro-ATX (DDR4) (LGA1151) Link $72.00

Also for a fan, after long experience with CoolerMaster, Thermaltake, NZXT and Corsair, don't hesitate to pull the trigger on this fan
NZXT RF-FN122-RB FN V2 Case Fan 12CM Link $8.00
Cheapest in category and has rubber screw mounting points, very silent even at 100% RPM, the cable is braided and black and pushes a lot of air into your case
cool tips , but what about my questions ? I asked few
if both of the supercompact and the 3 fans gtx1070 would fit the case , but the 3 fans model was 16$ more , which one would you pick ?
and would I get an advantage in gaming with a ddr4 8gb over a ddr3 8gb one ?
just for extra knowledge but Im getting ddr4 anyway since it is literally 1$ more
If you can pay the extra for 3 fan vga and the mx310 case and extra 120mm fan, yes pick it up.
As for the RAM, in gaming, no, there is no measurable advantage between DDR3 or DDR4 in your case, currently you will use 1 DIMM which means you are not using dual channel RAM (reading/writing on 2 ram in same time doubles the speed)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8959/ddr4-haswell-e-scaling-review-2133-to-3200-with-gskill-corsair-adata-and-crucial/8
in the bottom of this article you will see that DDR3 and DDR4 trade blows in gaming performance and these result could be in the margin of error zone