Moving to Canada Process

@Ziad87

Hi,
I was going through the thread and saw that you previously mentioned that birth certificates must be translated. To my best knowledge, I don't have any unless that is equivalent to the sijil 3adli. Again I haven't got the ITA yet so cannot know what specific documents will they ask for so I am not sure if birth certificates are even required. On CIC website, it says that they are only required for children. See below


Mandatory documents (if applicable)

The following documents are mandatory if applicable (i.e., based on the personal circumstances of the applicant and their dependents).

When applicable, applications that do not contain the following documents will be rejected as incomplete and fees will be refunded.


Copy of birth certificate or other equivalent document


Purpose


To prove the dependent children’s relationship to the parents


Document requirements

•This document is required only if the applicant identifies dependent children.
•The document must be one of the following: ◦birth certificate;
◦equivalent document from the birth country; or
◦letter of explanation (where no birth certificate is available in the country).



Individuals who must submit this documentation

•All the dependent children, including non-accompanying

Hey, I just checked, it seems that is correct. The birth certificate is only required for children. Anyways when you get your ITA and you submit your final application, you will get a document checklist. If your certificate is required (most probably it won't be), it will be listed.

For my case, my consultant/law firm asked for it as part of their regular procedures. They specifically said for all members including principal applicant. However, I think their document was written before the new Express Entry and they forgot to update that part.

Also for my specific case, I actually ended up needing the certificate since my passport back then didn't have the full date of birth because I'm a Palestinian refugee.

Thanks Ziad. Much appreciated. I will get back to you with updates and if there is any info I need as you seem to have had good experience with this :)

Have a good day/.

I entered the pool in January with a score of 392. Retook IELTS in Feb and improved my score (minimum CLB9 on each category). That gave me a score boost to 452. Missed March 14 draw by a few points but eventually got the ITA this Monday (minimum CRS 446).

Completed my online application. In the process of uploading the documents required.

@Ziad87 - no birth certificates were required not even for my child, but only maybe because he is Canadian.

thegodfatherdany wrote

ali_m3 wroteThanks for your reply. Very valuable.

I'm sitting at 452 and awaiting ITA anytime soon. Getting my docs ready in advance. Police certificates from leb are all what is left i beleive

Ali, when did you receive that score? Did you already have this score while the latest draws were done? Minimum score accepted was around 441 for the last couple of draws. Just wanted to know if you were part of them and did not get accepted.

Hybrid wroteI got my PR through Express Entry in 2016. Birth cert is not required.

I'm not sure why you are using a law firm, you can do it all online, it's easier than becoming a lebgeeks member

Indeed the express entry system had made it easier for many people. I found it to be fairly simple so far. I think some people are still under the impression that they need a law firm or certain assistance with documentation to have a strong file or maybe they just don't have time to fill out forms. I know a friend who has paid $2k to a law firm but we have almost identical cases and he regrets paying that amount as he had seen how simple the EE system is.

Congrats ali_m3! Hopefully you get your PPR soon.

Recent draws targeted applicants who entered the pool between a certain duration of time which is quite short. What if someone applied last October and is still in the pool? Will he ever get a chance to be picked?

thegodfatherdany wroteRecent draws targeted applicants who entered the pool between a certain duration of time which is quite short. What if someone applied last October and is still in the pool? Will he ever get a chance to be picked?

From what I understand (though I haven't read much about it), the only new change in the draw system is the addition of the date/time that is only applicable to the lowest selected score.

So for example, from before they would say anybody with a score of 441 points would get an ITA. Now they also added a date-time parameter to the score. So in the new draw they can say anybody with a score of 439 points on or before March 2, 2018 12:00pm will get an ITA. This means that any score above 439 is immediately eligible for an ITA. However, for candidates with exactly 439 points, then only the ones who applied on or before the specified date will get an ITA.

They did this change so they can have more control over the number of ITAs issued. For example, if they select a score of 442 and only 1,000 candidates meet that score but they want to invite 1,100 candidates then they must lower the score. In some cases, lowering the score meant inviting more candidates than their target since naturally there are more candidates with lower scores in the pool.

So to answer your question, a candidate that stays longer in the pool has in fact a better chance of getting an ITA over newer candidates with the same exact score.

Thanks Ziad87 for the info. My brother is in the pool with a 441 score since around October. Draws were almost 1 point or 2 more as average. A friend told him if he gets a 5/10 on the French exam which you can register for at ESA here can give you around 50 points if i remember right? Is that right?
Let's say he got a total score of 480. It is also possible to stay in the pool for long and not get picked saying the minimum for the draw was 445?

thegodfatherdany wroteThanks Ziad87 for the info. My brother is in the pool with a 441 score since around October. Draws were almost 1 point or 2 more as average. A friend told him if he gets a 5/10 on the French exam which you can register for at ESA here can give you around 50 points if i remember right? Is that right?
Let's say he got a total score of 480. It is also possible to stay in the pool for long and not get picked saying the minimum for the draw was 445?

Not sure about the exact point breakdown for the French exam. You can try this calculator to get more info. It's definitely helpful to do the French exam. Even a few points can be very helpful.

As for recreating the profile and having a newer application submission date, your brother shouldn't worry since even a single point will make the date/time factor irrelevant! Remember, the date the application was created only matters for the minimum score. It only serves as some kind of tie breaker. So in your example, if the minimum score for the draw is 445, then if your brother has 446 points he will be selected. In that case, the date of application creation doesn't matter. It would only matter if he had 445 points.

thegodfatherdany wroteThanks Ziad87 for the info. My brother is in the pool with a 441 score since around October. Draws were almost 1 point or 2 more as average. A friend told him if he gets a 5/10 on the French exam which you can register for at ESA here can give you around 50 points if i remember right? Is that right?
Let's say he got a total score of 480. It is also possible to stay in the pool for long and not get picked saying the minimum for the draw was 445?

I think yes there are some bonus points if you had a certain level of score on French combining it with certain level of English. This is what the site says"

Scored NCLC 7 or higher on all four French language skills and scored CLB 5 or higher on all four English skills (+30 points)

Yet I think 441 is a good score already and I believe your brother should have good chances in the next draw or the next few ones. The date of joining (October) only serves as a tie breaker in case the minimum CRS is 441. Ziad87 already gave an example. Last draw CRS was 446 and if a draw happens next Wednesday it should come down by some 5 points I believe. If within 2 months he doesn't get invited then I think he should go for French test.

Draws of this year were very close to 441 so he will proceed to do the French exam. In this way, he can guarantee he can get an invitation the soonest. From what i understand from earlier posts, nobody with a score of higher than the min score will stay in the pool right?

@hybrid @ziad87 or anyone who applied through express entry


Hi Guys,

Reactivating this thread - last time I posted was in April

So I got my ITA earlier this year and submitted my online application (AOR, May 28th). 6 months passed, still with no PPR.

I ordered GCMS notes and noted that I was selected for security screening - this has been ongoing for the past 4 months or so. Everything else is completed.

Though I am not surprised that someone with Lebanese passport will undergo extensive security screening, I was wondering if you guys faced the same delay with your application. Express entry promises 6 months standard processing time, yet I have seen some cases go way beyond that.

Thanks

ali_m3 wrote@hybrid @ziad87 or anyone who applied through express entry


Hi Guys,

Reactivating this thread - last time I posted was in April

So I got my ITA earlier this year and submitted my online application (AOR, May 28th). 6 months passed, still with no PPR.

I ordered GCMS notes and noted that I was selected for security screening - this has been ongoing for the past 4 months or so. Everything else is completed.

Though I am not surprised that someone with Lebanese passport will undergo extensive security screening, I was wondering if you guys faced the same delay with your application. Express entry promises 6 months standard processing time, yet I have seen some cases go way beyond that.

Thanks

Mine took around 4-5 months, I think it's close :)

ali_m3, it took me a bit less than one and a half years. Lots of Lebanese applicants are also delayed this much. Typically it's 7-18 months to get PPR.

Thanks guys.

Keeping hopes high, though the waiting game is tough!