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Check the data, and split the bill accordingly!
Seriously, Xazbrat gave you a good solution.
Throttle heavy users down. They will adapt eventually.
Thanks everyone for their suggestions really appreciated, here we are on the 24th and my quota is 47910.96 MB/ 51200 MB, not too bad considering last month was worse, but with work and everything I don't find the energy to track the quota anymore I just give up and buy more, I guess this is what the ISPs want afterall
You must see here, for summer house I have a Connect 10gb per month, we could barely finished the 1st month because one of my parent was traveling 2 weeks so it lightened the downloads, but now we are already at 46% while we are just at the 9th day!!!!!
When he was away we used about 50mb per day only, now it's like 500-700mb per day.
I added itunes and apple supposed address as well as youtube in the connect modem firewall but I think they can access anyway because nothing changed.
Anyway I told them I wont pay an extra month and they will be responsible if it finishes too soon, I have to pay the Beirut's ADSL on Monday
vegetaleb wroteYou must see here, for summer house I have a Connect 10gb per month, we could barely finished the 1st month because one of my parent was traveling 2 weeks so it lightened the downloads, but now we are already at 46% while we are just at the 9th day!!!!!
When he was away we used about 50mb per day only, now it's like 500-700mb per day.
I added itunes and apple supposed address as well as youtube in the connect modem firewall but I think they can access anyway because nothing changed.
Anyway I told them I wont pay an extra month and they will be responsible if it finishes too soon, I have to pay the Beirut's ADSL on Monday
Maybe traffic is HTTPs and you can't block it on a router level?
Georges00 wrote
vegetaleb wroteYou must see here, for summer house I have a Connect 10gb per month, we could barely finished the 1st month because one of my parent was traveling 2 weeks so it lightened the downloads, but now we are already at 46% while we are just at the 9th day!!!!!
When he was away we used about 50mb per day only, now it's like 500-700mb per day.
I added itunes and apple supposed address as well as youtube in the connect modem firewall but I think they can access anyway because nothing changed.
Anyway I told them I wont pay an extra month and they will be responsible if it finishes too soon, I have to pay the Beirut's ADSL on Monday
Maybe traffic is HTTPs and you can't block it on a router level?
As I stated earlier, find a router that allows you to see the usage of each device and throttle the speed of the biggest users/abusers. You may not be able to prevent people from accessing services, but you can slow down their access so hopefully you can stay close to your quota each month. Since it is a summer house, probably wouldn't worry about it too much this year, but something to keep in mind for next season.

The biggest users/abusers that I have seen have been iphones and ipads. Mac's may be on the list, but I haven't seen their access in person, so I can't give you a definite opinion on them, so maybe start there.
It's crazy to see our parents more addicted to internet than us!!
And yes apple users are the most abusive because it looks like apps have daily updates and they are put on Auto, I can't access my father's iphone because of the fingerprint scan or else I would certainly have put auto-updates on Off long time ago
can't stuff like that be cached? anyone have a step by step procedure in making a caching server? i have an intel nuc that i would like to setup as a caching device
Most of them can't be cached, imho, cache is almost useless at household. Majority of traffic also https (uncacheable).
vegetaleb wroteIt's crazy to see our parents more addicted to internet than us!!
And yes apple users are the most abusive because it looks like apps have daily updates and they are put on Auto, I can't access my father's iphone because of the fingerprint scan or else I would certainly have put auto-updates on Off long time ago
There aren't any autoupdate off button as far as i know, for firmware i mean.
It's very frustrating actually, The phone downloaded the update file countless times and countless times did i delete it, even worse it asks you hourly when you are using the phone to grant permission for update installation.
8 months later
Hey Geeks!
Can you set daily bamdwidth limits on the default Thompson router Ogero gives you?
If not, anyone can recommend a managed adsl modem-router so for example I can set total daily limit, or maybe particular user limits and speed priorities?
Am considering ASUS N300

Thanks
It might be hard to find a router that limits by used volume, but I bought a router recently (tp link archer d2 from pcandparts) to have some more control over internet distribution in my house(also for the 1gbps ethernet ports which I love and the high bandwidth wifi), it does allow me to restrict the minimum and maximum bandwidth usage per device in my house and per port. I am finding it useful particularly when we have guests over, and they take the opportunity of using our internet to start watching videos.(you can create a whole other wifi called guest network and limit bandwidth on it for all guests, and have another family wifi, and then you can limit people by their ip address and bind their mac addresses to ip addresses so they never change)

If I had bandwidth problems, I would for example limit my family members to a stop max speed of 1mbps instead of 2mbps and see if that forces their usage down... perhaps it is better than outright cutting them out, because then if they ask why don't we have internet it;s awkward to say well because you passed your limit.

The router also has a priority system, where if one user has a higher priority over another user, they would be allocated the bandwidth preference. But all users get the set minimum amount of bandwidth guarrentied (as you program it in the router) the maximum that is shared gets prioritized based on the priority...

It also has statistics that allow you to see how much total bytes each ip used, though it is not very detailed and very bare bones. Useful to determine who is siphoning the connection at the given moment...


My usage for this router on the unlimited connection I have now is as follows:
I have a mini desktop downloading 24/7 every second of everyday, the router gives it the least priority with 10 kbps guarrentied speed no more and a max speed of 2mbps. This machine downloads at 2mbps most of the time, but if anyone in the house opens anything and wants to use the internet, the router automatically drops this download machine to 10kbps and gives this person the rest of the router's bandwidth, allowing me to download 24/7 and still not bother anyone at home. And it works very very well.
Thanks
So what you described is kind of similar to having a mikrotik attached to the modem? Not sure if the mikrotik has any volume quota limits ..
user wroteIt might be hard to find a router that limits by used volume, but I bought a router recently (tp link archer d2 from pcandparts) to have some more control over internet distribution in my house(also for the 1gbps ethernet ports which I love and the high bandwidth wifi), it does allow me to restrict the minimum and maximum bandwidth usage per device in my house and per port. I am finding it useful particularly when we have guests over, and they take the opportunity of using our internet to start watching videos.(you can create a whole other wifi called guest network and limit bandwidth on it for all guests, and have another family wifi, and then you can limit people by their ip address and bind their mac addresses to ip addresses so they never change)

If I had bandwidth problems, I would for example limit my family members to a stop max speed of 1mbps instead of 2mbps and see if that forces their usage down... perhaps it is better than outright cutting them out, because then if they ask why don't we have internet it;s awkward to say well because you passed your limit.

The router also has a priority system, where if one user has a higher priority over another user, they would be allocated the bandwidth preference. But all users get the set minimum amount of bandwidth guarrentied (as you program it in the router) the maximum that is shared gets prioritized based on the priority...

It also has statistics that allow you to see how much total bytes each ip used, though it is not very detailed and very bare bones. Useful to determine who is siphoning the connection at the given moment...


My usage for this router on the unlimited connection I have now is as follows:
I have a mini desktop downloading 24/7 every second of everyday, the router gives it the least priority with 10 kbps guarrentied speed no more and a max speed of 2mbps. This machine downloads at 2mbps most of the time, but if anyone in the house opens anything and wants to use the internet, the router automatically drops this download machine to 10kbps and gives this person the rest of the router's bandwidth, allowing me to download 24/7 and still not bother anyone at home. And it works very very well.
I did a similar thing installing DD-WRT on a TP-Link router. I had a problem particularly with iCloud and some other Google services uploading data on our 700Kbps upload pipe, which would sometimes make it impossible to game online for hours on end.
I set the maximum upload and download bandwidth, allocated a high priority to the PS4's MAC address and it's been working like magic.

I also previously had Open-WRT in which I was able to measure the total volume used and SWAT the family member who was consuming lots of bandwidth for a day by pointing them out. Most of the time, it would be something uploading data that they are not aware of. Once we turned all these upload things off, we were able to reach the end of the month with enough quota.
I tried to find a custom firmware for my router but couldn't, I remember checking open-wrt but my device was not on their list.
11 days later
Is there any issue if I buy TP-Link Archer D7?
I did not find any Archer D5 at pcandparts or macrotronics, so I am shopping at ebay,
Locally I could find Archer D2 but the price will be comparable to a D7 online.
Any advice?
Basseetta wroteIs there any issue if I buy TP-Link Archer D7?
I did not find any Archer D5 at pcandparts or macrotronics, so I am shopping at ebay,
Locally I could find Archer D2 but the price will be comparable to a D7 online.
Any advice?
I'd get a VDSL Modem.
Archer D7 cost around 120$ and is an ADSL2+ Modem.
Georges00 wrote I'd get a VDSL Modem.
Archer D7 cost around 120$ and is an ADSL2+ Modem.
Are we going to have VDSL-capable lines anytime soon for residential customers? I called terranet and the customer support said no.
Basseetta wrote Are we going to have VDSL-capable lines anytime soon for residential customers? I called terranet and the customer support said no.
Some areas already got VDSL apparently.
That's what I remember Imad Kreidieh tweeting.
Basseetta wroteIs there any issue if I buy TP-Link Archer D7?
I did not find any Archer D5 at pcandparts or macrotronics, so I am shopping at ebay,
Locally I could find Archer D2 but the price will be comparable to a D7 online.
Any advice?
You can find it here Options MegaStore. The store is located in Tripoli but you can order online.
Actually it's not available right now but the store owner told me that it will be next week.