I stopped pirating games and it feels good

Ramnesia wrote

NuclearVision wroteif you let me psychologically analyze it for you.
Simplifying everything i concluded, i think you are ready to pay more for a couple of games, than pay the same amount for tens of games, not to necessarly support devs although its a noble thinking, but rather not to feel guilty about playing tons of games and wasting time.
In other words, you are spending more money to play less, on purpose.
I hope you're not offended or something.

regards :)

I was stealing before so I decided not to anymore ( still stealing movies and Tv shows ) working on not stealing that, please psycho analyse that.

Those don't count as stealing, you're clean...

But really, i'll do my best, an objective scientific analysis, i could be wrong though xD
okay, you say you quit pirates computer content, that could mean two things. You probably work in the IT field, and refuse such piracy, because it would indirectly affect you. But you still pirate movies which means you're far from media domain.
Or else, it could not be particularly related to your work, but you seem to have computer games as your major time spending mean, in a way bigger proportion than movies and tv shows, divided between those two you don't socialize much.
Back to piracy: You spend much time on computer games, you make good cash, thus you try to spend more money in this, thinking of it as the money you'd substituted if elsewhere spent, outside your house, in theaters, cinemas, or clubs.
Regards.

NuclearVision wrote

Ramnesia wrote

NuclearVision wroteif you let me psychologically analyze it for you.
Simplifying everything i concluded, i think you are ready to pay more for a couple of games, than pay the same amount for tens of games, not to necessarly support devs although its a noble thinking, but rather not to feel guilty about playing tons of games and wasting time.
In other words, you are spending more money to play less, on purpose.
I hope you're not offended or something.

regards :)

I was stealing before so I decided not to anymore ( still stealing movies and Tv shows ) working on not stealing that, please psycho analyse that.

Those don't count as stealing, you're clean...

But really, i'll do my best, an objective scientific analysis, i could be wrong though
okay, you say you quit pirates computer content, that could mean two things. You probably work in the IT field, and refuse such piracy, because it would indirectly affect you. But you still pirate movies which means you're far from media domain.
Or else, it could not be particularly related to your work, but you seem to have computer games as your major time spending mean, in a way bigger proportion than movies and tv shows, divided between those two you don't socialize much.
Back to piracy: You spend much time on computer games, you make good cash, thus you try to spend more money in this, thinking of it as the money you'd substituted if elsewhere spent, outside your house, in theaters, cinemas, or clubs.
Regards.

I think you are wasting your time...

Ramnesia wrote

NuclearVision wrote

Ramnesia wrote
I was stealing before so I decided not to anymore ( still stealing movies and Tv shows ) working on not stealing that, please psycho analyse that.

Those don't count as stealing, you're clean...

But really, i'll do my best, an objective scientific analysis, i could be wrong though
okay, you say you quit pirates computer content, that could mean two things. You probably work in the IT field, and refuse such piracy, because it would indirectly affect you. But you still pirate movies which means you're far from media domain.
Or else, it could not be particularly related to your work, but you seem to have computer games as your major time spending mean, in a way bigger proportion than movies and tv shows, divided between those two you don't socialize much.
Back to piracy: You spend much time on computer games, you make good cash, thus you try to spend more money in this, thinking of it as the money you'd substituted if elsewhere spent, outside your house, in theaters, cinemas, or clubs.
Regards.

I think you are wasting your time...

I quit gaming for good.

Maybe if there was a big market for second hand original games, then less people would be doing piracy in Lebanon.

rolf wroteMaybe if there was a big market for second hand original games, then less people would be doing piracy in Lebanon.

how do developpers benefit from people buying used discs?
It might be better than pirated discs which basically cost nothing.
But still, its almost equivalent, in terms of profits, for developpers.
correct me.

silo_m8 wrote

rolf wroteMaybe if there was a big market for second hand original games, then less people would be doing piracy in Lebanon.

The whole topic was about how buying the games is actually comfortable and hassle free.
It devolved into piracy vs anti piracy

Relax, Aren't we supposed to discuss it out?
You could hire bots that post your multiple points of view...

RandomMemory wroteI mean i wish steam would take into consideration our region and offer us special prices like Russia/India.
What's funnier is, the lebanese playstore is more expensive than the US one. I mean come on... Minimum wage is 500$ here.
Take netflix as another example, i paid 10$ for 1 month and 10$ for a vpn to access US content, that's 20$ which is totally fine because of my good internet speed and because you would spend that on DVDs with a bad quality in your local store. But then they banned VPNs and proxies, and i can't access US content anymore, So now i resort to other ways because they forced my hand... But anyways, you have to make a tempting offer to an average person with a low wage in order to make him spend money on video games/music/Movies and shows.

i think netflix is accessible from Lebanon.

NuclearVision wrote

RandomMemory wroteI mean i wish steam would take into consideration our region and offer us special prices like Russia/India.
What's funnier is, the lebanese playstore is more expensive than the US one. I mean come on... Minimum wage is 500$ here.
Take netflix as another example, i paid 10$ for 1 month and 10$ for a vpn to access US content, that's 20$ which is totally fine because of my good internet speed and because you would spend that on DVDs with a bad quality in your local store. But then they banned VPNs and proxies, and i can't access US content anymore, So now i resort to other ways because they forced my hand... But anyways, you have to make a tempting offer to an average person with a low wage in order to make him spend money on video games/music/Movies and shows.

i think netflix is accessible from Lebanon.

It is, but the content accessible here is terrible.

I see... I guess it is to comply with lebanese receptance of movies.
thanks i didn't know that.

NuclearVision wroteI see... I guess it is to comply with lebanese receptance of movies.
thanks i didn't know that.

It's not that, it's just about licenses. Netflix knew their subscribers use VPNs and proxies to bypass their region locks. But when they expanded to 120+ countries, content owners in the USA and Europe got greedy and pressured netflix to deal with VPNs so they could resell their licenses in this region. And everything on netflix is uncensored, I don't think it complies or passes by any Lebanese filtering.

silo_m8 wroteSo its been about 5 months since I started getting my games legit. My thought process was: I have a somewhat disposable income that is being spent on eating and drinking out regularly with my girlfriend on the weekends and sometimes during the week. If I skip one night out, that's one triple A title bought from g2a or kinguin at launch.
Since then, I'm being more critical on what I buy, and as a result I'm not having subpar gaming experiences. The con is that I don't play every single game that comes out, but frankly I don't have the time to play everything.
Patching support, cloud saves, achievements, online play, everything is great.

Also my girlfriend is a gamer, i shared my steam library with her through family share, as long as I'm not logged in, she can play all my games while having her own saves and achievements.

I'm happy to have switched, any of you have the same experience? Thoughts?

Well I fully understand and respect what you did. In fact, I did the same. I used to have a modded XBOX and tons of games which I never played, you see i get your point!! they had no value to me i just bought them because I could and only played 2 games when I had almost 50!! The things you get for being legit are worth the money. The online features, the peace of mind, the respect you learn for games after you start buying them legally...
I used all that points to convince my friends to stop playing pirated games.
Now if someone plays 10 games in a month and cant afford it maybe its an excuse and he's free to do whatever he wants anyway, but I don't get how you would be a "fils a papa" if you decide to go legit and buy one or two games and play them.(it doesn't make any sense anyway), or torturing yourself "on purpose" by spending more and playing less.(that's not how psychology work and not how it is practiced btw). The way I see it you are now enjoying the whole 60$ or whatever you spent for a game more than the 50 000 LBP or whatever you paid for 25 games or so and only played 2 or 3 of them... so money wise i think you did the right thing like I did (now you dont have to the same guys but that doesn't mean we have to offend you in any way or psycho analyze you...)
Respect man. what you did was great, and I am sure a lot more will follow...
And people who are trying to defend piracy by attacking the guy you don't have to... no one tried to judge you, so don't feel offended for no reason and judge the others... :)

The three main reasons I stopped pirating games:
1. It makes my PC more secure. I don't have to deal with various forms of hidden malware that are shipped with cracked copies.
2. It's easier to keep stuff up to date, whether it's patches or new DLCs. Similarly but with some exceptions, buying games from digital stores is simply far more convenient.
3. Nowadays, it doesn't even cost me physical money to buy most of my games, and through trading on the Steam market, I've made back all the money I've ever spent on games.

I don't actually experience regret or remorse for having pirated games specifically, for many reasons. With other software however, like VSTs, it's starting to become a real issue.

vegetaleb wroteHackers always faced new difficult protections, I am confident Denuvo will be cracked in 2016, there are lot of Chinese and Russian guys who are as good as 3DM and are working on it to get credit for

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if major publishers like EA and Ubisoft actively commission classified research teams dedicated to cracking the DRMs of one another in order to sabotage rival sales.

I did this once and stopped it, now I only buy games on the steam sale. I prefer the "try" before you buy thing, If I really like it and its worth it then ill support the developers and buy the game. Usually games with multiplayer capabilities are my primary choice to spend my money on.

I only buy games that doe not have a singleplayer campaign, only multiplayer
I bought Titanfall for 20$ , and lately PVZ Garden Warfare for 5$ on origin
Other games i am willing to buy are Star Wars Battlefront and The Division and Titanfall 2 and PVZ 2 :p