but it is cheap and looks goodsayedti wrotedont buy the cougar mx310 , i own it , it has good features but you will struggle with cables management .
Gaming Rig
If you have fans installed on the front i will look good , but go with it and with proper cable management it will do the job
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@Stygmata
1- i5 6500 (even an i7 6600 K) Performs Better than i7 4790 in Games = FALSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJYKYzUP0Yk
2- DDR3 vs DDR 4 from 1600 mhz and on the DDR3 , No performance advantage in Gaming and many applications. All You need to know :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utWnjA4NzSA
3- Stick with the 970 for now , sell it (Sells very well in Lebanon) and Upgrade to Pascal at later stages , the 970 is a great Overclock-er too I suggest the MSI Gaming Variant , easy OC to 1500 mhz Core and 4 GHz Memory. Compared to the 390x , it depends on the title , in some the 970 outperforms the 390x , plus with the 970 comes along with nice in game Nvidia Options like the HBAO+ , Better DSR Scaling , etc...)
1- i5 6500 (even an i7 6600 K) Performs Better than i7 4790 in Games = FALSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJYKYzUP0Yk
2- DDR3 vs DDR 4 from 1600 mhz and on the DDR3 , No performance advantage in Gaming and many applications. All You need to know :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utWnjA4NzSA
3- Stick with the 970 for now , sell it (Sells very well in Lebanon) and Upgrade to Pascal at later stages , the 970 is a great Overclock-er too I suggest the MSI Gaming Variant , easy OC to 1500 mhz Core and 4 GHz Memory. Compared to the 390x , it depends on the title , in some the 970 outperforms the 390x , plus with the 970 comes along with nice in game Nvidia Options like the HBAO+ , Better DSR Scaling , etc...)
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I don't know man it seems like a very decent budget case, cougar never dissapoints, i have built in the Spike myslef and cable management is just fine (and that case is a 30$ mATX case)Stygmata wrotebut it is cheap and looks goodsayedti wrotedont buy the cougar mx310 , i own it , it has good features but you will struggle with cables management .
I suck with cables , but if he can do a decent job then why not
in the movie you posted about the i7 vs i5 , in the end they chose the i5 as the best buy ..also dont you think getting the skylake will better future-proof your rig than the haswell ?Tech Guru wrote@Stygmata
1- i5 6500 (even an i7 6600 K) Performs Better than i7 4790 in Games = FALSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJYKYzUP0Yk
2- DDR3 vs DDR 4 from 1600 mhz and on the DDR3 , No performance advantage in Gaming and many applications. All You need to know :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utWnjA4NzSA
3- Stick with the 970 for now , sell it (Sells very well in Lebanon) and Upgrade to Pascal at later stages , the 970 is a great Overclock-er too I suggest the MSI Gaming Variant , easy OC to 1500 mhz Core and 4 GHz Memory. Compared to the 390x , it depends on the title , in some the 970 outperforms the 390x , plus with the 970 comes along with nice in game Nvidia Options like the HBAO+ , Better DSR Scaling , etc...)
the price difference between DDR4 and DDR3 is minimal ( Around 15 $ )
i agree with the 970 .. the difference is more than 130 $ .. too much
Just don't listen to him on the upgrade to Pascal part. Upgrade to the sweetspot card, be it AMD or Nvidia, and if you want to get a adaptive sync monitor, lean towards AMD as you'll save $200-$300 for a FreeSync monitor compared to a similar G-Sync one.Stygmata wrotein the movie you posted about the i7 vs i5 , in the end they chose the i5 as the best buy ..also dont you think getting the skylake will better future-proof your rig than the haswell ?Tech Guru wrote@Stygmata
1- i5 6500 (even an i7 6600 K) Performs Better than i7 4790 in Games = FALSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJYKYzUP0Yk
2- DDR3 vs DDR 4 from 1600 mhz and on the DDR3 , No performance advantage in Gaming and many applications. All You need to know :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utWnjA4NzSA
3- Stick with the 970 for now , sell it (Sells very well in Lebanon) and Upgrade to Pascal at later stages , the 970 is a great Overclock-er too I suggest the MSI Gaming Variant , easy OC to 1500 mhz Core and 4 GHz Memory. Compared to the 390x , it depends on the title , in some the 970 outperforms the 390x , plus with the 970 comes along with nice in game Nvidia Options like the HBAO+ , Better DSR Scaling , etc...)
the price difference between DDR4 and DDR3 is minimal ( Around 15 $ )
i agree with the 970 .. the difference is more than 130 $ .. too much
this from PCandparts :
1X Cougar MX310 Mid Tower Case for $36.00
1X Corsair CMPSU-CX750v3 750W PSU 80 Plus Bronze for $91.00
1X Intel Skylake 3.20GHz- i5-6500 6M/LGA1151 Original Boxed CPU for $202.00
1X MSI Z170A PC MATE (DDR4) USB 3.1 (LGA1151) for $131.00
1X HyperX Fury 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Desktop Memory Model HX424C15FBK2/16 for $84.00
1X SAMSUNG 850 EVO MZ-N5E250BW M.2 250GB SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive for $108.00
1X 1TB WD10EZEX 7200RPM SATAIII 64MB HDD for $56.00
1X MSI GTX 970 4GD5T OC GeForce GTX 970 4GB DDR5 for $349 (low in stock)
1X LG 24MP56HQ Wide 23.8" LED IPS Full HD Monitor for $169.00
1X A4Tech Bloody B2100 Blazing Gaming Desktop illuminating Key+Mouse USB for $39.00
1X NZXT RF-FN122-RB FN V2 Case Fan 12CM for $8.00
1X Assembly $10.00
Discount $5.00
Subtotal of complete systems would be $1278.00
Total with 10% V.A.T. and $10.00 volume shipping of Complete system within Beirut area would be $1417.00USD only.
and they do not help you with the payment installments ( they have a bank PC loan with a 7% interest rate )
1X Cougar MX310 Mid Tower Case for $36.00
1X Corsair CMPSU-CX750v3 750W PSU 80 Plus Bronze for $91.00
1X Intel Skylake 3.20GHz- i5-6500 6M/LGA1151 Original Boxed CPU for $202.00
1X MSI Z170A PC MATE (DDR4) USB 3.1 (LGA1151) for $131.00
1X HyperX Fury 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Desktop Memory Model HX424C15FBK2/16 for $84.00
1X SAMSUNG 850 EVO MZ-N5E250BW M.2 250GB SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive for $108.00
1X 1TB WD10EZEX 7200RPM SATAIII 64MB HDD for $56.00
1X MSI GTX 970 4GD5T OC GeForce GTX 970 4GB DDR5 for $349 (low in stock)
1X LG 24MP56HQ Wide 23.8" LED IPS Full HD Monitor for $169.00
1X A4Tech Bloody B2100 Blazing Gaming Desktop illuminating Key+Mouse USB for $39.00
1X NZXT RF-FN122-RB FN V2 Case Fan 12CM for $8.00
1X Assembly $10.00
Discount $5.00
Subtotal of complete systems would be $1278.00
Total with 10% V.A.T. and $10.00 volume shipping of Complete system within Beirut area would be $1417.00USD only.
and they do not help you with the payment installments ( they have a bank PC loan with a 7% interest rate )
@Stygmata
Great - Fully Fledged Desktop - Go for It
Great - Fully Fledged Desktop - Go for It
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pay 20$ more (22$with vat ) and go with msi z170a sli plus or krait gaming it has sli support so you are future proofed in case you decide to sli or if you want to overclock a little bit (if you upgrade later to an unlocked cpu ) and its always better ta have a gaming dedicated moboStygmata wrotethis from PCandparts :
1X Cougar MX310 Mid Tower Case for $36.00
1X Corsair CMPSU-CX750v3 750W PSU 80 Plus Bronze for $91.00
1X Intel Skylake 3.20GHz- i5-6500 6M/LGA1151 Original Boxed CPU for $202.00
1X MSI Z170A PC MATE (DDR4) USB 3.1 (LGA1151) for $131.00
1X HyperX Fury 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Desktop Memory Model HX424C15FBK2/16 for $84.00
1X SAMSUNG 850 EVO MZ-N5E250BW M.2 250GB SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive for $108.00
1X 1TB WD10EZEX 7200RPM SATAIII 64MB HDD for $56.00
1X MSI GTX 970 4GD5T OC GeForce GTX 970 4GB DDR5 for $349 (low in stock)
1X LG 24MP56HQ Wide 23.8" LED IPS Full HD Monitor for $169.00
1X A4Tech Bloody B2100 Blazing Gaming Desktop illuminating Key+Mouse USB for $39.00
1X NZXT RF-FN122-RB FN V2 Case Fan 12CM for $8.00
1X Assembly $10.00
Discount $5.00
Subtotal of complete systems would be $1278.00
Total with 10% V.A.T. and $10.00 volume shipping of Complete system within Beirut area would be $1417.00USD only.
and they do not help you with the payment installments ( they have a bank PC loan with a 7% interest rate )
and why pay 10$ as install fee , build it on your own its easy , you can watch some youtube videos and it will be fun and you will enjoy it!
but in overall , its a great gaming rig !
show us some pictures when you get it , i want to see how good pcandparts are with cables !
Cable management is truly an art. You really have to understand the curvature, size, and thickness of the cable to figure out the best way to hide it/route it.
A better case helps with the management but a true cable management master can work with any case.
A better case helps with the management but a true cable management master can work with any case.
im sending this machine to some kid i know .. i am in africa and i don't trust his building capabilities .. also even this gaming rig is a bit overpriced for his budget ( he told me 1400 then he insisted on payment installments )sayedti wrotepay 20$ more (22$with vat ) and go with msi z170a sli plus or krait gaming it has sli support so you are future proofed in case you decide to sli or if you want to overclock a little bit (if you upgrade later to an unlocked cpu ) and its always better ta have a gaming dedicated moboStygmata wrotethis from PCandparts :
1X Cougar MX310 Mid Tower Case for $36.00
1X Corsair CMPSU-CX750v3 750W PSU 80 Plus Bronze for $91.00
1X Intel Skylake 3.20GHz- i5-6500 6M/LGA1151 Original Boxed CPU for $202.00
1X MSI Z170A PC MATE (DDR4) USB 3.1 (LGA1151) for $131.00
1X HyperX Fury 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Desktop Memory Model HX424C15FBK2/16 for $84.00
1X SAMSUNG 850 EVO MZ-N5E250BW M.2 250GB SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive for $108.00
1X 1TB WD10EZEX 7200RPM SATAIII 64MB HDD for $56.00
1X MSI GTX 970 4GD5T OC GeForce GTX 970 4GB DDR5 for $349 (low in stock)
1X LG 24MP56HQ Wide 23.8" LED IPS Full HD Monitor for $169.00
1X A4Tech Bloody B2100 Blazing Gaming Desktop illuminating Key+Mouse USB for $39.00
1X NZXT RF-FN122-RB FN V2 Case Fan 12CM for $8.00
1X Assembly $10.00
Discount $5.00
Subtotal of complete systems would be $1278.00
Total with 10% V.A.T. and $10.00 volume shipping of Complete system within Beirut area would be $1417.00USD only.
and they do not help you with the payment installments ( they have a bank PC loan with a 7% interest rate )
and why pay 10$ as install fee , build it on your own its easy , you can watch some youtube videos and it will be fun and you will enjoy it!
but in overall , its a great gaming rig !
show us some pictures when you get it , i want to see how good pcandparts are with cables !
as for the cable management i doubt they will do any amazing job .. just the minimum i think .. i will arrange cables when i come to lebanon
as jesus the cable management god said once : stop using cable ties and use velcro you infidels !MrClass wroteCable management is truly an art. You really have to understand the curvature, size, and thickness of the cable to figure out the best way to hide it/route it.
A better case helps with the management but a true cable management master can work with any case.
turns out it is over the budget ( pcandparts requires a bank pc loan and 7% interest rate ) so i am trying to cut down some things..Tech Guru wrote@Stygmata
Great - Fully Fledged Desktop - Go for It
maybe a small sata ssd instead of m2 .. a smaller screen ..
23.8" is way too large for 1920x1080. You will get very low pixel density.Stygmata wrotea smaller screen ..
23" @1920x1080 is around 96 PPI. 21.5" is around 102 PPI.
96 PPI is too low already for small fonts (I learned this the expensive way). 23.8" @1920x1080 is even lower.
So yes, get a smaller screen but not under 1920x1080.
https://www.sven.de/dpi/
Don't get a screen under 102 PPI unless you don't plan on doing any reading.
how about this : LG 22MP58VQ Wide 21.5" LED IPS Full HD/ Wide Viewing Anglehussam wrote23.8" is way too large for 1920x1080. You will get very low pixel density.Stygmata wrotea smaller screen ..
23" @1920x1080 is around 96 PPI. 21.5" is around 102 PPI.
96 PPI is too low already for small fonts (I learned this the expensive way). 23.8" @1920x1080 is even lower.
So yes, get a smaller screen but not under 1920x1080.
https://www.sven.de/dpi/
Don't get a screen under 102 PPI unless you don't plan on doing any reading.
That one looks good and LG monitors have good viewing area.
gentlemen lets try to lower the cost of this :
1X Cougar MX310 Mid Tower Case for $36.00
1X Corsair CMPSU-CX750v3 750W PSU 80 Plus Bronze for $91.00
1X Intel Skylake 3.20GHz- i5-6500 6M/LGA1151 Original Boxed CPU for $202.00
1X MSI Z170A PC MATE (DDR4) USB 3.1 (LGA1151) for $131.00
1X HyperX Fury 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Desktop Memory Model HX424C15FBK2/16 for $84.00
1X SAMSUNG 850 EVO MZ-N5E250BW M.2 250GB SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive for $108.00
1X 1TB WD10EZEX 7200RPM SATAIII 64MB HDD for $56.00
1X MSI GTX 970 4GD5T OC GeForce GTX 970 4GB DDR5 for $349 (low in stock)
1X LG 24MP56HQ Wide 23.8" LED IPS Full HD Monitor for $169.00
1X A4Tech Bloody B2100 Blazing Gaming Desktop illuminating Key+Mouse USB for $39.00
1X NZXT RF-FN122-RB FN V2 Case Fan 12CM for $8.00
1X Assembly $10.00
Discount $5.00
1X Cougar MX310 Mid Tower Case for $36.00
1X Corsair CMPSU-CX750v3 750W PSU 80 Plus Bronze for $91.00
1X Intel Skylake 3.20GHz- i5-6500 6M/LGA1151 Original Boxed CPU for $202.00
1X MSI Z170A PC MATE (DDR4) USB 3.1 (LGA1151) for $131.00
1X HyperX Fury 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Desktop Memory Model HX424C15FBK2/16 for $84.00
1X SAMSUNG 850 EVO MZ-N5E250BW M.2 250GB SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive for $108.00
1X 1TB WD10EZEX 7200RPM SATAIII 64MB HDD for $56.00
1X MSI GTX 970 4GD5T OC GeForce GTX 970 4GB DDR5 for $349 (low in stock)
1X LG 24MP56HQ Wide 23.8" LED IPS Full HD Monitor for $169.00
1X A4Tech Bloody B2100 Blazing Gaming Desktop illuminating Key+Mouse USB for $39.00
1X NZXT RF-FN122-RB FN V2 Case Fan 12CM for $8.00
1X Assembly $10.00
Discount $5.00
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would recommend replacing that 250gb M.2 SSD with a 120gig SATA SSDStygmata wrotegentlemen lets try to lower the cost of this :
1X Cougar MX310 Mid Tower Case for $36.00
1X Corsair CMPSU-CX750v3 750W PSU 80 Plus Bronze for $91.00
1X Intel Skylake 3.20GHz- i5-6500 6M/LGA1151 Original Boxed CPU for $202.00
1X MSI Z170A PC MATE (DDR4) USB 3.1 (LGA1151) for $131.00
1X HyperX Fury 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Desktop Memory Model HX424C15FBK2/16 for $84.00
1X SAMSUNG 850 EVO MZ-N5E250BW M.2 250GB SATA 6Gbps Solid State Drive for $108.00
1X 1TB WD10EZEX 7200RPM SATAIII 64MB HDD for $56.00
1X MSI GTX 970 4GD5T OC GeForce GTX 970 4GB DDR5 for $349 (low in stock)
1X LG 24MP56HQ Wide 23.8" LED IPS Full HD Monitor for $169.00
1X A4Tech Bloody B2100 Blazing Gaming Desktop illuminating Key+Mouse USB for $39.00
1X NZXT RF-FN122-RB FN V2 Case Fan 12CM for $8.00
1X Assembly $10.00
Discount $5.00
also 22-23 inch screen instead of 24
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