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http://www.pressreader.com/lebanon/the-daily-star-lebanon/20150717/281500749935151/TextView
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Surely most of you have seen the shocking increase of garbage piles around your local Sukleen dumpsters (if Sukleen operate in you area). Discussing the politics behind Sukleen's contract with the government won't do any good, so I thought maybe we'd talk about solutions. One in particular that may be temporary but possibly very beneficial, and that I haven't seen being discussed anywhere, is this: http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/3/27/sweden-wants-your-garbage-for-energy.html

Yes, you read it correctly. There are countries, like Sweden and Norway, that are actually looking to buy waste, because they benefit from it through waste-to-energy conversion and recycling, and now they're running out of it.

Sukleen have made a killing through government contracts worth billions of dollars and then simply reselling waste for even more profit, when we could've done the exact same thing without their help and all that money spent. Why don't we consider selling all the mountains of trash to Scandinavia and just abandon Sukleen for now? We don't need them to overfill dumps that were meant to be landfills and create more health and environmental hazards across Lebanon. We don't need the government paying them ridiculous sums of money. Selling waste seems like the single best short-term solution for the crisis until we build facilities dedicated for recycling and waste conversion, which will take time, and the profit made from the selling may help even out the costs. It's far better than building incineration plants, which many people consider to be the best solution for some reason. Right now people have started burning their local Sukleen dumpsters.

What is your take on the current situation? Are you living in an area affected by the garbage fumes emanating from the Naameh dump site? Have you participated in any of the recent sit-ins or demonstrations at the site?
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All i could say is that all the info we can gather from the media is what really the media want us to be informed, in the end this is not something new you wanna make a point ? let the people suffer!! this phenomena is still causing the arabs to be backwards if the west wanna make a point they go to government seeking for a change, in Lebanon you wanna make a change ? let the people suffer!! If you think about it for a second is that it ? is it really the answer for any problem you are having ? the corrupted laws that's really messing with the people are influencing this result. Again think about it, everything around us from 20+ years up till now all the laws all the illegal weapons all the lies we are witnessing are causing Lebanese people to be depressed to live in a very disappointing life (no motivation).

We are witnessing the same cycle over and over again! you wanna make a change let the people suffer and believe me this wont stop until a good portion of people will make a change. You wanna make a change ? let the rulers suffer, let the rulers listen to our demands!
NuclearVision wroteGod !
People are burning it on the street.
Best way to recycle garbage!

Burning tiers is old fashion now.
rtp wrote
NuclearVision wroteGod !
People are burning it on the street.
Best way to recycle garbage!

Burning tiers is old fashion now.
Best way to die of cancer.
So what I conclude is nobody seems to know what all this is about.
If only the consequences of many other political mafia problems were as bold as the waste crisis ...
Just in case you missed it.
eWizzard wroteDiscussing the politics behind Sukleen's contract with the government won't do any good
Mafia politics aside, the government will simply find and allocate clean locations (who knows, maybe right next to your home) for use as landfills and dumps and continue to destroy the environment, while your neighbours will continue to burn trash and expose you and your family to all sorts of carcinogenic gases and fine particles.

I was hoping that this thread would inspire proactive rather than defeatist attitude, but apparently we still hold on to sadomasochism as some sort of personal moral value. Anyway, I'll share an idea I came up with soon.
eWizzard started this thread with good intentions, focusing on solutions.
Let's follow his example instead of complaining.

While I don't have any straightforward solutions, approaching the problem from a waste prevention and waste minimization point of view can yield effective results. Reduce, reuse and recycle. I know, I can hear you complaining: "but in Lebanon, no ones cares!". I disagree, they will care when the trash starts accumulating in their neighborhoods.

Now, some open ended questions to get started…

- How might be encourage people to reuse second hand items?
- How might we help people reduce their waste output?
- How might we showcase the benefits of household waste recycling?

Thoughts?
This is how serious people take this issue
I heard a german company offered to handle lebanese waste, in return they wanted the recycled matter, that was a couple of years ago.
The lebanese gov. didn't agree.
venam wrote How I hate when people start conversations like "In LB it's poop, look at others, nanana". Nagging is for bitches, what other men can do another men can do!
I don't like it either. Basically you get worked up and upset about things, and try to get involved and change things. Others will brush off any social, moral, emotional responsibility they have, as fellow inhabitants of the country, by shrugging it off to the country being this and the people being that (I don't want to say bad things now).

Well it's my country too, and to such things I would like to answer; Talk for yourself! Leave the rest of us out of it, thank you very much!

It's just one of these things - I just think we'd be better off if there was a little more of that positive attitude going around - and I'm sure many (at least you?) will agree. I believe that motivation and faith is an important component of success.
Lebanon Cabinet fails to agree on trash solution, postpones discussions to Tuesday
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aliessayli2 wroteThis is how serious people take this issue
I'm sorry man, but not only the people aren't taking this seriously.
So I heard from an elder that this happened a long time.

The people gathered in the middle of the street and they threw the garbage from the cans to the middle of the roads blocking all traffic.

The government did an urgent meeting and found a quick solution (he failed to recall what it was).

As people are not revolting, they will just postpone and we node.

https://www.facebook.com/events/101972120154042/
ILIA_93 wrote I'm sorry man, but not only the people aren't taking this seriously.
The handling of the whole thing was not proper. They had some trouble with the Naameh landfill, so the "solution" was essentially to shut down the landfill, basically stopping the whole garbage collection system, basically telling everyone to sod off.

Which would be fine if these people weren't on a government payroll, financed by the Lebanese people, to do this job.