hey guys

I wanna upgrade my motherboad and I am forced to upgrade my cpu since the one I have is 1155 socket and all the new motherboards are 1150 or 2011 (at least the ones available at pcandparts)

so here is my system

Memory (RAM): 6110 MB
CPU Info: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500 CPU @ 3.30GHz
CPU Speed: 3296.7 MHz
Sound Card: Speakers (High Definition Audio)
Display Adapters: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti
Screen Resolution: 1920 X 1080 - 32 bit
Motherboard *: Intel Corporation DH61WW

I have my eye on these guys
Haswell 3.20 GHz - i5-4460 6M/LGA1150
MSI H97 GAMING 3 (DDR3) (LGA1150)

budget around 400$

what do you think guys
What is the purpose of the upgrade ? If gaming what you aim for that is pretty good choice, or go with the Asus Z97-K for 10$ more. But to be honest your parts are not that bad, if the purpose was gaming I would invest in a new GPU, maybe a GTX 970 or AMD 390.
@aliessayli2

If your purpose for Gaming the i5-2500 CPU @ 3.30GHz will not bottle neck if the Graphic Card is Powerful but for 400USD it will be bare minimum to get a decent graphic card like the GTX 970 or 390 I suggest to Go with the 960 and Upgrade the PSU (What PSU are you using Brand / Watt / Series)
Your CPU is still good, if you have a decent PSU, as in 550-600W from a reputable brand, go with an R9 390, if your PSU is not from a reputable brand, something along the lines of a ThermalTake Smart series, get a new PSU and an R9 280X or a 380, both offer better performance than the GTX 960 while staying at roughly the same pricepoint.
The purpose is gaming yes, I hate my current mobo it's small, no 3.0, and my gpu covers 2 sata ports that I can't connect anything there so I had to disconnet my optical drive to plug my new ssd until I find a right angle sata wire and hope it works.

anyway so I can bare with it, and I know changing the mobo won't increase my performance, I have a corsair 430 watt 80 plus bronze, so should I instead invest in a new gpu and psu?
so if I get the 960 what psu should I get
Yes, get an R9 380 and something along the lines of Antec HCG, XFX TS, EVGA SuperNova B2, SuperNova G2, Seasonic M12II or S12II.
Die_Kapitan wroteYes, get an R9 380 and something along the lines of Antec HCG, XFX TS, EVGA SuperNova B2, SuperNova G2, Seasonic M12II or S12II.
pcandparts only has the r9 290
Die_Kapitan wroteYes, get an R9 380 and something along the lines of Antec HCG, XFX TS, EVGA SuperNova B2, SuperNova G2, Seasonic M12II or S12II.
Kapitan , sorry but i cant help but notice, you always mention and recommend parts without taking into consideration the availability here. for example you just cannot find any evga or seasonic here in lebanon, and VERY few will have the new AMD cards, and if they do , they will take an arm and a leg for it. most people will not order from abroad.
Anthony2000 wrote
Die_Kapitan wroteYes, get an R9 380 and something along the lines of Antec HCG, XFX TS, EVGA SuperNova B2, SuperNova G2, Seasonic M12II or S12II.
Kapitan , sorry but i cant help but notice, you always mention and recommend parts without taking into consideration the availability here. for example you just cannot find any evga or seasonic here in lebanon, and VERY few will have the new AMD cards, and if they do , they will take an arm and a leg for it. most people will not order from abroad.
Ordering from outside is pretty simple, dude. I mean would any sane person get a 4GB GTX 960 for 330$ ? I prefer getting an R9 380 from outside Lebanon for less. In terms of PSUs, the selection in Lebanon consists of either cheap junk (Tt Smart, Corsair CX, Cougar SL) or good but old and slightly overpriced *cough* and non aesthetically pleasing *cough* power supplies (Tt Toughpower Gold), if he doesn't care about looks or getting a fairly old power supply, you can't go wrong with the Toughpower Gold.
@aliessayli2

I recommend for You:

If you are willing to play on 1080p , the GTX 960 4GB is more than enough to get here from Lebanon and if you are aiming to get the R9 380 do not enter into the hustle of ordering from outside a person you know may get it for you from UAE since a lot of Lebanese go/come to from Lebanon to UAE.

As for the PSU - I am running now Dual 970 in SLI on a Thermal Take Tough Power 80 Plus Gold ; what is available in Lebanon as PSUs I Recommend this PSU as a local market PSU - my system is very stable even when I game for around 6-7 Hours constantly some times - with Graphic intensive games such as GTA 5 or Witcher 3 on 1440p. As for the Looks I was able to obtain this version from a Store I know which is a fully modular new design/looks from Thermal Take for the Tough Power Series:

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002130

which differs than the semi Modular relatively old version / looks of:

http://www.thermaltake.com/Power_Supply_/Toughpower_Series_/Toughpower/C_00002349/Toughpower_850W_GOLD/design.htm That is listed on PC & Parts

& There is a new DPS G Tough Power Version with a software that directly monitors voltages / AMPs / Efficiency
http://www.thermaltake.com/Power_Supply/Toughpower_Series_/Toughpower_DPS_G/C_00002389/Toughpower_DPS_G_850W/design.htm
Die_Kapitan wroteYour CPU is still good, if you have a decent PSU, as in 550-600W from a reputable brand, go with an R9 390, if your PSU is not from a reputable brand, something along the lines of a ThermalTake Smart series, get a new PSU and an R9 280X or a 380, both offer better performance than the GTX 960 while staying at roughly the same pricepoint.
good luck finding any AMD 300 series gpu. also the smart series are not reliable at high loads(i own a 730W). and the 200 series are overpriced here because they didnt sell well and they are still from old stock at old prices.

however this all changes if you live in the USA, an MSI twin frozer gtx 960 4G is actually a very good card and beats any amd gpu in that price bracket, the only win for amd is the 390x as it dethroned the gtx970 as the best bang for card.
silo_m8 wrote
Die_Kapitan wroteYour CPU is still good, if you have a decent PSU, as in 550-600W from a reputable brand, go with an R9 390, if your PSU is not from a reputable brand, something along the lines of a ThermalTake Smart series, get a new PSU and an R9 280X or a 380, both offer better performance than the GTX 960 while staying at roughly the same pricepoint.
good luck finding any AMD 300 series gpu. also the smart series are not reliable at high loads(i own a 730W). and the 200 series are overpriced here because they didnt sell well and they are still from old stock at old prices.

however this all changes if you live in the USA, an MSI twin frozer gtx 960 4G is actually a very good card and beats any amd gpu in that price bracket, the only win for amd is the 390x as it dethroned the gtx970 as the best bang for card.
Dude, I said that the Smart SE series is not good. It's not from a reputable brand nor is it based on a good platform, it's based on an old shit tier CWT platform.

The R9 380 can beat any GTX 960 on the market, no single person on the LTT forums recommends the GTX 960 over the R9 380, the GTX 960 also suffers from its 128-bit bus, so the 4 gigs won't be fully utilized, meanwhile the 380 has a 256-bit bus. Please stop using your imagination and your fanboyism as a reference and start using actual benchmarks.

It's the R9 390 that dethroned the GTX 970 not the R9 390X. Also, AMD actually wins in every pricepoint bare the $600+ and sub-120$ pricepoints, the R7 370 is beats than the GTX 750 Ti, the R9 380 is better than the GTX 960, the R9 390 is better than the GTX 970, the R9 390X goes neck-to-neck with the GTX 980, losing in more games than it wins but it's also 50$ cheaper while the R9 Fury is just 50$ more expensive than the 980 and obliterates it.
@bogdan22

The R9 380 is faster than the 960 but the 960 itself will not jeopardize gaming experience at 1080 in terms of raw performance , the dilemma of whether to grab a 960 which is available in the Lebanese Market vs the Lack of availability of 380 in the Market ; In Market vs Ordering from Offshore and sure I am suspicious if the R9 380 when it available here its price will match the 380. For me if I want a graphic card Ill grab a 960 and not in to the enter of hustle of ordering from outside.
Die_Kapitan wrote
silo_m8 wrote
Die_Kapitan wroteYour CPU is still good, if you have a decent PSU, as in 550-600W from a reputable brand, go with an R9 390, if your PSU is not from a reputable brand, something along the lines of a ThermalTake Smart series, get a new PSU and an R9 280X or a 380, both offer better performance than the GTX 960 while staying at roughly the same pricepoint.
good luck finding any AMD 300 series gpu. also the smart series are not reliable at high loads(i own a 730W). and the 200 series are overpriced here because they didnt sell well and they are still from old stock at old prices.

however this all changes if you live in the USA, an MSI twin frozer gtx 960 4G is actually a very good card and beats any amd gpu in that price bracket, the only win for amd is the 390x as it dethroned the gtx970 as the best bang for card.
Dude, I said that the Smart SE series is not good. It's not from a reputable brand nor is it based on a good platform, it's based on an old shit tier CWT platform.

The R9 380 can beat any GTX 960 on the market, no single person on the LTT forums recommends the GTX 960 over the R9 380, the GTX 960 also suffers from its 128-bit bus, so the 4 gigs won't be fully utilized, meanwhile the 380 has a 256-bit bus. Please stop using your imagination and your fanboyism as a reference and start using actual benchmarks.

It's the R9 390 that dethroned the GTX 970 not the R9 390X. Also, AMD actually wins in every pricepoint bare the $600+ and sub-120$ pricepoints, the R7 370 is beats than the GTX 750 Ti, the R9 380 is better than the GTX 960, the R9 390 is better than the GTX 970, the R9 390X goes neck-to-neck with the GTX 980, losing in more games than it wins but it's also 50$ cheaper while the R9 Fury is just 50$ more expensive than the 980 and obliterates it.
Talk about fanboyism, look at yourself and your posts. It seems that I have offended you personally for such a pointless attack. Good job.
silo_m8 wrote
Die_Kapitan wrote
silo_m8 wrote
good luck finding any AMD 300 series gpu. also the smart series are not reliable at high loads(i own a 730W). and the 200 series are overpriced here because they didnt sell well and they are still from old stock at old prices.

however this all changes if you live in the USA, an MSI twin frozer gtx 960 4G is actually a very good card and beats any amd gpu in that price bracket, the only win for amd is the 390x as it dethroned the gtx970 as the best bang for card.
Dude, I said that the Smart SE series is not good. It's not from a reputable brand nor is it based on a good platform, it's based on an old shit tier CWT platform.

The R9 380 can beat any GTX 960 on the market, no single person on the LTT forums recommends the GTX 960 over the R9 380, the GTX 960 also suffers from its 128-bit bus, so the 4 gigs won't be fully utilized, meanwhile the 380 has a 256-bit bus. Please stop using your imagination and your fanboyism as a reference and start using actual benchmarks.

It's the R9 390 that dethroned the GTX 970 not the R9 390X. Also, AMD actually wins in every pricepoint bare the $600+ and sub-120$ pricepoints, the R7 370 is beats than the GTX 750 Ti, the R9 380 is better than the GTX 960, the R9 390 is better than the GTX 970, the R9 390X goes neck-to-neck with the GTX 980, losing in more games than it wins but it's also 50$ cheaper while the R9 Fury is just 50$ more expensive than the 980 and obliterates it.
Talk about fanboyism, look at yourself and your posts. It seems that I have offended you personally for such a pointless attack. Good job.
Fake knowledge and "facts" offend me. I'm not a fanboy, I just hate Nvidia's push towards proprietary software and hardware, false marketing and the fact they always rig benchmarks and have lots of reviewers on their payroll, and like AMD's push towards more open standards and open-source.
Tech Guru wrote@bogdan22

The R9 380 is faster than the 960 but the 960 itself will not jeopardize gaming experience at 1080 in terms of raw performance , the dilemma of whether to grab a 960 which is available in the Lebanese Market vs the Lack of availability of 380 in the Market ; In Market vs Ordering from Offshore and sure I am suspicious if the R9 380 when it available here its price will match the 380. For me if I want a graphic card Ill grab a 960 and not in to the enter of hustle of ordering from outside.
Yes, Indeed its much less of a hassle to get the 960 from here, but if he has the ability to get the 380 from abroad I think it would be the better choice. I got my MSI 290x Lightning for 330$ from USA which was easy for me to ship through friends.
Dear Sir

New VGA shipment in 20 to 25 days
Kindly keep checking our website for updates
I got this from pcandparts when asking about the R9