Old news? Or what am I missing?
A bit old yes (3 months) but since a lot of people use this website I decided, after a search to make sure the topic was not already posted, to just create a new topic for it.
Don't understand why he was arrested. He isn't the one posting those copyrighted stuff.
It's a stupid as firing the founder of Youtube because some idiot posted an unofficial Nicki Minaj song without her approval.
Those people are using Jails as a tool to enforce a revenue system. I think this is going too far.
ramy58 wroteDon't understand why he was arrested. He isn't the one posting those copyrighted stuff.
It's a stupid as firing the founder of Youtube because some idiot posted an unofficial Nicki Minaj song without her approval.
I'm totally against putting them in jail but your statement is actually wrong. When my website says that copyright law should be respected, and someone posts illegal content (copyright-speaking), it's not my fault as long as I take the responsibility to delete the content posted. The Pirate Bay's case is different, they are promoting those idiots (they're not idiots to me, you said it) posting illegal content.

If someone paves you the road to stealing doesn't mean he's totally irresponsible of the consequences.

But for me, that's a bunch of bull$hit anyway, everything should be free¹ and open source. Arrrr.

¹Free as in freedom.
The initial accusation (which he was found guilty of) is "assisting in copyright breach". They make it sound as if assisting to a murder.
This feels like a case of over-moderating. There are many websites out there that index links to copyrighted material being illegally distributed and policing them is next to impossible.
They are either trying to set an example or they are disillusion.
Maybe they are attacking an icon. This guy is a pro-piracy activist (if there is such a thing), the name of his site is "the pirate bay" (with a pirate ship on top). If he'd had named it "the torrent bay" or "torrent exchange" or whatever he'd have saved himself much trouble!
They're just trying to scare people and it's only efficient as long as the legal system is satisfying their complaints. Sadly, I don't see that changing any time soon. The incentive is on siding with those who already have the money and the power. What a surprise.
Maybe it will change in the distant future, when the majority will have a strong opinion about piracy, and will say that it is OK to copy and share digital content, and no it is not OK to slap those who this practice with criminal-like fines and sentences.
Adnan wroteWhen my website says that copyright law should be respected, and someone posts illegal content (copyright-speaking)
You don't know how TPB works then. Its servers do not hold any illegal or copyrighted data. There is no copyrighted content posted on the website. What TPB does is link to P2P trackers that may or may not be sharing copyrighted material. It is not against Swedish law to link to copyrighted material. It is against the law to posses it. TPB has never possessed copyrighted material on its website.
I wouldn't illegally download movies if there was some easier way to obtain them without the need to use DVDs or any sort of optical media. The DVD drive on my computer gave up years ago and I never found the need to replace it.
Perhaps some sort of subscription where you pay 20 dollars a month and you can download all the movies you want.
The hosting website would be powered by a large CDN network similar to YouTube's network with a local node in Lebanon for fast downloads.
And I am pretty sure many would pay 20 dollars a month for downloading 30+ movies. And since those people are unlikely to be buying the DVD anyway, there is no loss for the production companies if they sell media online for nominal fees.
This invalidates the argument that people pirate for the sake of pirating and disrespect for copyright and ownership rights.
It really is about the method of distribution, product accessibility, and price.
tt400 wrote
Adnan wroteWhen my website says that copyright law should be respected, and someone posts illegal content (copyright-speaking)
You don't know how TPB works then. Its servers do not hold any illegal or copyrighted data. There is no copyrighted content posted on the website. What TPB does is link to P2P trackers that may or may not be sharing copyrighted material. It is not against Swedish law to link to copyrighted material. It is against the law to posses it. TPB has never possessed copyrighted material on its website.
Indeed.
It is obvious that Swedish officials were pressured in some way by big companies' lobbyists. Those guys are heroes and they're tracked like petty criminals. If they put this much effort in arresting murderers, rapists or corrupted politicians the world would be so clean.
tt400 wrote
Adnan wroteWhen my website says that copyright law should be respected, and someone posts illegal content (copyright-speaking)
You don't know how TPB works then. Its servers do not hold any illegal or copyrighted data. There is no copyrighted content posted on the website. What TPB does is link to P2P trackers that may or may not be sharing copyrighted material. It is not against Swedish law to link to copyrighted material. It is against the law to posses it. TPB has never possessed copyrighted material on its website.
I indeed know that the pirate bay doesn't directly post this illegal content on its server, my bad for explaining it that way. However that makes the Youtube comparison wrong too. But as I said after, TPB is paving the road to it.
As for the part in bold, I believe that the creators of the website have made the website purposefully to promote sharing copyrighted material, hence the name, hence what rolf said:
rolf wroteMaybe they are attacking an icon.
Adnan wroteBut as I said after, TPB is paving the road to it.
As for the part in bold, I believe that the creators of the website have made the website purposefully to promote sharing copyrighted material, hence the name
That's just silly and that isn't going to hold up in court. You cannot accuse a website of providing copyrighted material based on the name of the website.There's absolutely no evidence that TPB is "paving the road" to anything. P2P sharing is completely legal, linking to copyrighted material is completely legal, end of story.

The only people pushing for the site's closure are lobbyists and the giant media companies mainly based in the US. Their blood boils because they know that Swedish laws keep them from destroying the website. That's why they come up with complete nonsense (like rape accusations) to prosecute these people to extradite them to the US and screw them over. That's what happened to Kim Dotcom, Julian Assange, and now it's happening to the two TPB mods.

I say fuck em'.
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It was great when he came to Lebanon. Really fun guy. I am pretty sure if he had stayed here, they wouldn't have been able to arrest him.