CPU: AMD vs Intel?

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Hello Geeks :)

AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor $189.00
Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard $170.00

vs

Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz $340.00
Asus Maximus VI Hero $200.00

I chose the Gigabyte GTX770 Windforce 2GB as a graphic card
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 2x4GB

Please vote and give a good reason for your vote ( Price , Performance , Durability )

Ps :- Yes, Its an Extreme Gaming pc ( For BF4 )
- The Price is From Newegg. com and I Can get them to Lebanon easily

Thanks in advance.

Johnaudi

I'd say go for the i7.

Die_Kapitan

Go with an i5 4670K which is a 4770K without hyperthreading and use the saved money on buying a better GPU *cough* GTX 780 *cough*

bermudapineapple

If you're building a gaming PC, both of those CPUs will serve you well till you're done with this entire generation of computer parts altogether. Doesn't really matter which one you pick. I agree with the guy above me. You're better off spending the major bucks on the GPU. Getting the cheapest out of those two CPUs and getting a GTX 780 would be a good idea.

Obviously

My vote goes to Intel

Prince

And my Vote goes to Intel too

Tarek

Amd is cheaper .
You don't need and won't use the i7 full capabilities .

You can also get an i5 .
Spend the rest on better GPU and some monster ram modules

313

Thanks guys for the fast reply
I guess what you're saying is true i should buy an i5 cpu
my friend got the r9 290 battlefield edition , he runs bf4 on ultra and full hd screen , its FANTASTIC !!
i guess im going to buy an r9 290 WindForce that have 3 fans and 4GB

I need your Help Choosing the cpu :) I'm not geared toward the OVERCLOCKING

Here is what pcandparts got for now
Haswell 3.10 GHz - i5-4440 6M/LGA1150 $188.00
3.1 GHz - i5-3340 6M/LGA1155 $184.00
3.2 GHz - i5-3470 6M/LGA1155 $204.00

and i can get AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core $115.00 from Canada

So Please Vote :D

Thanks For Die_Kapitan , Obviously , Tarek , Johnaudi , tt400 and , Prince

Johnaudi

i5 Haswell, but make sure your motherboard supports its LGA. (well, probably wouldn't matter, never seen the size of it)

Plus CPU wouldn't be EXTREMELY needed in a gaming build unless you like to lower your graphics, you might need the CPU for sending data in between the computer and the game, your GPU is doing all of the calculations here and since you've gotten a Windforce, I put my hands down :)

I'm also interested in your build, mind PM'ing me the total price and specs?

313

Johnaudi wrotei5 Haswell, but make sure your motherboard supports its LGA. (well, probably wouldn't matter, never seen the size of it)

Plus CPU wouldn't be EXTREMELY needed in a gaming build unless you like to lower your graphics, you might need the CPU for sending data in between the computer and the game, your GPU is doing all of the calculations here and since you've gotten a Windforce, I put my hands down :)

I'm also interested in your build, mind PM'ing me the total price and specs?

Download this Excel Sheet and see my researches so far

bermudapineapple

Don't even bother overclocking any CPU you buy. You'd just be killing it before it even had a life to live.

Die_Kapitan

If you plan on overclocking, get a 4670K, if you don't, get a 4670 or a Xeon e3 1230 V3. I'm not an Intel fanboy but I tend to stay away from AMD CPUs - they produce too much heat.

ramy58

Where is avok when you need him ?

AvoK95

Check the performance difference between the two and make your choice that way. Don't just take random votes.

Both the AMD and Intel CPU's have their advantages and disadvantages.
If you go AMD you'll be spending far less money than going Intel without losing much performance in games. However, by doing this, you will have more money to get a better GPU like a GTX780 or an R9 290. Which will provide you with better performance in games. The only reason you wouldn't want to go with a 8350 is that it's slower in terms of raw performance. But then again games these days don't need such performance. However, going with an 8350 will also result in more CPU bottleneck, sacrificing you 2 or 3 frames in CPU intensive games. (This is in case of the 8350 is put up against an i5 3570). The 8350 also uses more power than the Intel. And gives out more heat.

If you go Intel, you'll have more access to aftermarket parts in the Lebanese market, such as heat-sinks, motherboards etc. You will also have more raw performance, and a stock cooler that runs cooler and more silent than the AMD stock cooler. And it'll use less power. But, going with a platform that will cost you a $100 more is a waste. Games nowadays just don't need that much performance in terms of CPU power. In fact, some games actually run slower on an i7 then they do on an i5. Because of the hyper-threading in the i7. An i5 is basically an i7 without hyper-threading and costs $100 less.

Watch this for benchmarks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICVeN6WEGgg

Now let's talk future-proof!
DirectX12 is just around the corner, and from what I've heard you can benefit in having a faster CPU in your gaming rig to have more FPS. Because of the way it works. And 90% of people who upgrade their rigs entirely is because their CPU has become too obsolete and slow to handle new fast graphics cards (In other words, CPU bottleneck). The faster CPU these people had the later they upgraded their rig.
Given these 2 points I've mentioned above, I would go with the i7 if you can afford it. But if you want to go with a faster GPU and upgrade your CPU in like 4-5 years. Go with the 8350.

Also, side note: If you're new to advanced overclocking or hardware in general, I would definitely avoid getting such high end motherboards. Lots of people are having trouble setting up their rigs because of this. However, if you do get them, I'll be happy to help you set it up.

Sidenote #2: You do not need to get beast RAM for a gaming PC. The difference in a DDR3 RAM module running at 800MHz and 3600MHz is 0.07FPS. You also don't need more than 8GB of RAM. I dare you to open task manager on your current PC and see how much RAM you're using. Even 4GB is enough for games nowadays. The second reason I would get 8GB of RAM is because RAM sticks are currently very expensive.

Specs I would go:
4770K
Maximus Hero
2x 4GB Kingston HyperX Black 1600MHz CL9 1.5v
R9 290
Corsair 850W PSU
Corair Case
Crucial 120/256GB SSD
1/2TB HDD for games and storage.

BUY Windows and BUY your games. People work for hours to make these pieces of software to get money and feed their families. How would you like it if I just copied what you did and claimed it as my own?

Yes, Windows is $100 to buy, but you have to buy it every 10 years. Making it 1$ a year. YOU NEED THOSE SECURITY UPDATES!
Games, they'll be yours forever, you'll be in a community, you can enjoy the games online, you get updates, you get achievements and lots more.

Don't have a card? Not an excuse, get an internet card.

I think I'm done here :P Cheers!

ramy58 wroteWhere is avok when you need him ?

Studying for official exams with minimal access to the web :)

ramy58

For the millionth time, avok gives a very good advice ;)

bermudapineapple

AvoK95 wrote BUY Windows and BUY your games. People work for hours to make these pieces of software to get money and feed their families. How would you like it if I just copied what you did and claimed it as my own?

Devil's advocate here: Do I really own the games if I buy them? Are they really my property or do I just have a legal license to play them? What if you never play a game you have to pay for? Would that still mean you're taking money away from the developers if you can download an illegal copy?

NuclearVision

Buy 2 amds and interchange them :p

AvoK95

tt400 wrote
AvoK95 wrote BUY Windows and BUY your games. People work for hours to make these pieces of software to get money and feed their families. How would you like it if I just copied what you did and claimed it as my own?

Devil's advocate here: Do I really own the games if I buy them? Are they really my property or do I just have a legal license to play them? What if you never play a game you have to pay for? Would that still mean you're taking money away from the developers if you can download an illegal copy?

Depends on the licensing terms of the software. And why would you buy a game that you'll never play?

Tarek

All of the calculations that the CPU needs to do remain static regardless of the resolution. This is because the internal calculation process that the CPU has to do inside a game is dependent on what goes on in the game, and not how big the screen is.

As your resolution gets larger, the GPU has to render more pixels which affects performance. Simply put the larger the resolution, the more powerful your GPU needs to be to keep equal framerates with the same settings.

That means, that as your resolution gets the larger, the less the CPU matters to bottleneck. No matter the resolution, CPU load stays the same, while GPU load increases.

If your CPU is based on the LGA 1155 (2nd gen. Intel Core i3/5/7), LGA 1156 (1st gen. Intel Core i3/5/7), LGA 1366 (1st gen. Intel Core i7) or on the AMD AM3 sockets (Athlon II x3/x4 and Phenom II x2/x3/x4/x6), then CPU bottleneck is unlikely to be the cause of your low framerates.

If your CPU is older or weaker than the above mentioned CPUs, then test the game at an extremely low resolution. If your framerates improve, then CPU bottleneck is not your issue. If framerates stay the same, then CPU bottleneck could be your issue.

bermudapineapple

AvoK95 wrote
tt400 wrote
AvoK95 wrote BUY Windows and BUY your games. People work for hours to make these pieces of software to get money and feed their families. How would you like it if I just copied what you did and claimed it as my own?

Devil's advocate here: Do I really own the games if I buy them? Are they really my property or do I just have a legal license to play them? What if you never play a game you have to pay for? Would that still mean you're taking money away from the developers if you can download an illegal copy?
Depends on the licensing terms of the software. And why would you buy a game that you'll never play?

Maybe my question wasn't clear enough, sorry. You brought up the fact that the developers need the money we pay so they can feed their kids and all. That's fine. But my question is this: Let's say I never would have bought the game if I had to pay for it. But here's an opportunity for me to download it so I do. Am I really stealing if I never would have paid for it anyway? In other words, I'm not really saving any money by downloading it because I was never going to buy it in the first place. So am I stealing?