nuclearcat wroteWillingly inhaling poisonous materials that will kill them slowly. All of them understand, it's bad, it will lead for sure for shorter lifespan. What else than slow suicide they are doing?
Satisfying acute physiological cravings. WORLD OF DIFFERENCE between that and suicide, and if you think that they're one and the same, then I'm sorry but you're just being thick-skulled. Moving along now...
nuclearcat wroteeWizzard wroteSecond, your whole statement is a naturalistic is-ought fallacy with clear implications for a
social Darwinist attitude towards the problem (and likely other social issues as well). In other words, you're being an unreasonable and inconsiderate jerk.
Wrong.
1)I object people smoking in public and affecting others.
2)Everything within their hands, and depends on their will and level of IQ, it is proven, that a lot of people quit smoking.
3)Smoking is not alcohol or heroine addition, it doesn't implicate serious health issues on withdrawal. Yes it is discomfort, but not more.
Did you even READ anything of what I wrote? No, you didn't, and now you're just throwing around unfounded claims to justify whatever point you were trying to make.
For 2) Show me evidence that IQ has anything to do with successful smoking cessation.
http://jech.bmj.com/content/57/6/464.full.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18606723
Both of these studies state that there is no conclusive evidence to link the two together. Allow me to quote:
Paper 1: Further investigations are required to determine whether the factors involved in smoking cessation today are associated with IQ.
Paper 2: IQ was not associated with likelihood of quitting smoking.
For 3) You obviously have no idea on what you're talking about, as you're clearly uninformed about
nicotine withdrawal. Pinning it down to just an easy phase of mild "discomfort" like you're putting it is just showing your ignorance.
nuclearcat wroteIf someone call me jerk, it means i reach my goal, at least i can laugh on him, this means i pissed him off and he don't have enough arguments, and turned to personal insults :)
This truly shows your age. I'm calling you out for your consistent misuse of invalid arguments, and you display such a juvenile response instead of realizing the flaws in your logic.
nuclearcat wroteMental illness can be a reason, but if person is so ill that he cannot control his actions, he should be isolated from society. [...] If someone intentionally (or he is not able to control himself) cause damage for rest of society - he should be isolated.
Complete isolation is not a solution, it's a retrogradation. You're essentially inflicting the same harm that comes from drug abuse. It solves nothing, does more harm than good, and the only thing you accomplish through it is making prisons more full. Also, about 50% of the population are smokers, so good luck isolating them.
nuclearcat wroteSmokers are doing that always intentionally, because they understand well, they are not alone, but they put their own interests above the interests of society
And this is due to what, exactly? Selfishness, compulsive behaviour as a consequence of addiction, or something else? Can't you at least give explanations for your views?
nuclearcat wroteIt will make them less intelligent. The more human person is, the more his intelligence will drive his behavior and not the low-lying physical desires.
Again, show me proof that smoking makes you less intelligent. The least you could do is try to give some plausible evidence for this, otherwise stop using this stupid argument. This whole discussion obviously isn't going anywhere and is fast becoming a huge waste of time.
djunited wroteHas 2nd hand smoking ever killed someone in lebanon? Or caused him illness?
It's hard to demonstrate that passive smoking is the cause of a certain cancer in a patient. However, that doesn't mean that it's impossible or even unlikely, as second-hand smoke contains the same carcinogenic chemicals as the ones inhaled by the smoker. Given that Lebanon has a high rate of smokers among the population, then I'd say that there's a good chance that people have contracted cancers and died as a result from it.
