m0ei wrote@Kim, stop bashing other people work, I'm purely 100% sure that you don't know 5% of what J4D knows in robotics.
probably i dont know even 3% you dont have a clue about this, about the quote yes i knew they was talking about LabVIEW not NXT reconsider this please
who said LabVIEW isnt the greatest platform ever?
play well fellows, im sorry i my hope is to find mature geeks around
kim wrote
m0ei wrote@Kim, stop bashing other people work, I'm purely 100% sure that you don't know 5% of what J4D knows in robotics.
probably i dont know even 3% you dont have a clue about this, about the quote yes i knew they was talking about LabVIEW not NXT reconsider this please
play well fellows, im sorry i my hope is to find mature geeks around
Then why ask me for a reference if you
Kim wroteknew they was talking about LabVIEW not NXT
Also, enjoy your search for mature geeks.
CONGRATS im out enjoy your toys, i was about offering you a copy of my source code but id rather to save it now
Guys, take it easy. We're getting topics locked that others can benefit from.

Don't drag your arguments too far and accept other people's points of view.

On the other hand, don't state your points of view like they are fact, as well. Especially not without having solid proof.

I would like to see how far this topic goes, because I can benefit from the information here. So don't get too emotional.
To all those who were bashing the Lego (specifically the NXT 2.0 block) and calling it a "toy", please see this "toy" in action:
LEGO’s Used to Aid in Synthetic Bone Generation
Image-guided therapy and medical robotics tutorial using a LEGO Mindstorms NXT robot and 3D Slicer

Also, never ever diss an easy programming language, I know ladder logic which is strictly used for programmable logic controllers and are highly used in manufacturing high-end voltage or high-end current applications like hospital sterilizers or X-ray machines (I tend to use examples form the medical field because this is where my expertise lies).

Anyway, back to the main subject of the thread, I think that in order to delve into the world of robotics, you should learn the basics of electronics. Try to familiarize yourself with the breadboard, basic electronic components like the resistor, capacitor, diode, transistor, etc..., sensors (basic at first like the photocell), and actuators (such as motors), and then try building some basic circuitry (I have a post that might help get you started). Try building some really basic robots like the beetle bot or other bots on the Instructables website and the following tech magazines: Servo Magazine (I see it already mentioned), EPE (Everyday Practical Electronics), and Nuts and Volts. It will allow you to get familiar with soldering and what not.

As for hardware programming, if you're familiar with C or C++ (I'm guessing you are sine you're a CS major), then microC and Arduino language are a good start for they are high level programming languages used to program microcontrollers without the hassle of assembly.
Thank you mesa!

@rtp: Try getting an arduino board, and read a tutorial. You'll know where to go from there :)
rahmu wroteThank you mesa!

@rtp: Try getting an arduino board, and read a tutorial. You'll know where to go from there :)
any specific books?
and were can i find this arduino board? electronic or pc shops ?


for the rest of the guys here , am extremely disappointed, i thought i was part of some mature group of people, apparently not. if you have any idiotic things to say, keep it to yourself or PM the person. You can bash each other as much as you want in PM. kids
I'm all in for an electronics workshop.

Please let's do this.
Let's put our money where our mouths are. For the organizer of the next lebgeeks workshop, I'll be paying a modest $20. Let's raise some money so that we can afford the organizers' time.

Being me, I am more interested in pure electronics: transistor (CMOS, MOSFET, building logic out of those) and control theory. Alas, it's never bad to get your hands dirty!
We have 4 participants so far!

What would you guys want to be able to do after this is over?
RTP wants to know how to remotely control a robot (and all the prerequisites of course). Others?
I'm in as well. This is definitely gonna be interesting.
We are surely going to have this workshop. I'm not currently in Lebanon. Ill be back by the 18th, we will have the workshop soon after. Just keep on writing here what would interest you in robotics, and the questions that pop into your head. Not necessarily in the field of robotics, but electronics/hardware in general.
From my part I'd like to start from scratch.

I agree with arithma on paying a small sum.
xterm wroteFrom my part I'd like to start from scratch.

I agree with arithma on paying a small sum.
i totally agree with xterm, from scratch and pay a small sum.

am not sure if we should buy the items for the workshop or it would be better if J4D bought them and then we repay him...
I would also like to attend and agree to pay for the workshop's equipment.
Did you choose a place yet?
We can do it at our office, so choosing the place isn't a big deal.

About the items, I think each person should buy his own, but wait for Jad to reply.
What will be the subject for the workshop ? or let me say the table of contents.