Feedback for Ogero
I don't understand Ogero. Regardless of their decent service and stable internet, they are really lazy/misinformed.
My friends had a 2mb plan and the most they could go was 4mb. After the prices dropped in Lebanon for all ISPs, they asked Ogero to do another "kashef" of their house, and Ogero told them that they could get 6-8 mb.
All of a sudden their house is within the diameter of the 6-8 mb range? So does that mean if I ask Ogero to redo a "kashif" at my home in Hamra, they will allow me the 6-8mb?
Anyone have any experience with this issue?
tl;dr: never could get 6-8mb, all of a sudden after prices drop, 6-8mb is available.
My friends had a 2mb plan and the most they could go was 4mb. After the prices dropped in Lebanon for all ISPs, they asked Ogero to do another "kashef" of their house, and Ogero told them that they could get 6-8 mb.
All of a sudden their house is within the diameter of the 6-8 mb range? So does that mean if I ask Ogero to redo a "kashif" at my home in Hamra, they will allow me the 6-8mb?
Anyone have any experience with this issue?
tl;dr: never could get 6-8mb, all of a sudden after prices drop, 6-8mb is available.
More than 70% of the lines here can handle more than 2mb. There is not such thing that they need to kashef w hek, they just dont want to provide high speeds to everyone.dio wroteI don't understand Ogero. Regardless of their decent service and stable internet, they are really lazy/misinformed.
My friends had a 2mb plan and the most they could go was 4mb. After the prices dropped in Lebanon for all ISPs, they asked Ogero to do another "kashef" of their house, and Ogero told them that they could get 6-8 mb.
All of a sudden their house is within the diameter of the 6-8 mb range? So does that mean if I ask Ogero to redo a "kashif" at my home in Hamra, they will allow me the 6-8mb?
Anyone have any experience with this issue?
tl;dr: never could get 6-8mb, all of a sudden after prices drop, 6-8mb is available.
Can you post the stats of your line to check some infos ?
Sure I can, what type of info would you like to see? Speedtest? Anything specific from a particular website?
Can you post a screenshot of the stats of your line, inside the modem, for example like my old post with a screenshot.dio wroteSure I can, what type of info would you like to see? Speedtest? Anything specific from a particular website?
The quality of the phone lines in Lebanon for subscribers close to the CO isn't necessarily the major issue here. It's whether the CO is equipped with enough servers or not to withstand the extra bandwidth. Upgrading the equipment in the COs will allow for faster speeds and more available bandwidth.
ADSL2+ download speeds can reach 24 Mbps and ogero is only supplying subscribers with a maximum of 8. I honestly think that subscribers within 1 km of a well equipped CO and with decent phone lines can achieve 24 Mbps in this country. Ogero just needs to upgrade the COs. Seems like a difficult task for them to do...!
ADSL2+ download speeds can reach 24 Mbps and ogero is only supplying subscribers with a maximum of 8. I honestly think that subscribers within 1 km of a well equipped CO and with decent phone lines can achieve 24 Mbps in this country. Ogero just needs to upgrade the COs. Seems like a difficult task for them to do...!
Ill post both the Speedtest and the stats of my modem/router soon. Thanks guys.
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Most CO here in Lebanon still have problems with ADSL2+, here I force the modem to sync to ADSL2 only, the performance is better, less erros and better latency, our main problem is old equipaments. A good line in 1km range can easily handle 15mbps with good stats SNR.andrew55 wroteThe quality of the phone lines in Lebanon for subscribers close to the CO isn't necessarily the major issue here. It's whether the CO is equipped with enough servers or not to withstand the extra bandwidth. Upgrading the equipment in the COs will allow for faster speeds and more available bandwidth.
ADSL2+ download speeds can reach 24 Mbps and ogero is only supplying subscribers with a maximum of 8. I honestly think that subscribers within 1 km of a well equipped CO and with decent phone lines can achieve 24 Mbps in this country. Ogero just needs to upgrade the COs. Seems like a difficult task for them to do...!
Also the quality of the cables that they are using is horrible, they just dont care because Ogero is the only big ADSL provider.
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That's not the only limitation. There isn't enough bandwidth coming into Lebanon to give many people 24Mbps. The only reason that people get more than 2Mbps is that not everyone has an internet connection. If everyone had an internet connection, we would be all at 2Mbps maximum speed.andrew55 wroteThe quality of the phone lines in Lebanon for subscribers close to the CO isn't necessarily the major issue here. It's whether the CO is equipped with enough servers or not to withstand the extra bandwidth. Upgrading the equipment in the COs will allow for faster speeds and more available bandwidth.
ADSL2+ download speeds can reach 24 Mbps and ogero is only supplying subscribers with a maximum of 8. I honestly think that subscribers within 1 km of a well equipped CO and with decent phone lines can achieve 24 Mbps in this country. Ogero just needs to upgrade the COs. Seems like a difficult task for them to do...!
@makhoder you're absolutely right. The worst copper wire should have a 13 db loss per km. I am around 1 km from my CO and get nearly double the loss meaning that there is significantly more loss than predicted regardless of where the extra loss is coming from. i am on G992.1 and get even better results with latency than G992.3 & G992.5.
@Hussam I honestly don't think that's an issue. Lebanon isn't using the entire bandwidth from the IMEWE & CADMOS submarine cables. In fact, Lebanon is only using a fraction of the bandwidth provided by these 2 cables and they can easily provide significantly more, provided that the Lebanese government pays more for the extra bandwidth, and that the bandwidth can be actually put to good use. Certainly paying for extra bandwidth isn't a good idea at this point in time because the infrastructure is so poor that it won't really transfer into faster speeds and higher caps.
@Hussam I honestly don't think that's an issue. Lebanon isn't using the entire bandwidth from the IMEWE & CADMOS submarine cables. In fact, Lebanon is only using a fraction of the bandwidth provided by these 2 cables and they can easily provide significantly more, provided that the Lebanese government pays more for the extra bandwidth, and that the bandwidth can be actually put to good use. Certainly paying for extra bandwidth isn't a good idea at this point in time because the infrastructure is so poor that it won't really transfer into faster speeds and higher caps.
Ok, thank you for explaining. Perhaps when they improve the infrastructure.andrew55 wrote @Hussam I honestly don't think that's an issue. Lebanon isn't using the entire bandwidth from the IMEWE & CADMOS submarine cables. In fact, Lebanon is only using a fraction of the bandwidth provided by these 2 cables and they can easily provide significantly more, provided that the Lebanese government pays more for the extra bandwidth, and that the bandwidth can be actually put to good use. Certainly paying for extra bandwidth isn't a good idea at this point in time because the infrastructure is so poor that it won't really transfer into faster speeds and higher caps.
Right now Terra and Sodetel are licensed to import their own bandwidth to lower the load on Ogero. There is still a huge amount of 'cable guys' and they mostly get their bandwidth from Terra. If all 'cable guy' customers moved to Ogero, Ogero will have to purchase more bandwidth.
The issue in Lebanon is the lack of transparency. The government can probably afford to buy more bandwidth.
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you're right. Interestingly, Terra's CEO keeps complaining in interviews that ogero isn't supplying the well needed E1s. Also, sodetel postponed its upgrade awaiting extra E1s from the ministry as they said. So i really don't think they can easily get E1s without the ministry's approval.
Don't forget that even though, private companies "may" have the right to get their own bandwidth separately, they still can't really do major changes in the infrastructure. No private ISP can change phone lines or deploy fiber optic cables unless given the right to by government. The only thing sodetel can do is deploy its severs in some COs it gets access to, hence why it can offer 16 Mbps to a selected number of subscribers and even with that speed it still is struggling (check the sodetel thread).
Don't forget that even though, private companies "may" have the right to get their own bandwidth separately, they still can't really do major changes in the infrastructure. No private ISP can change phone lines or deploy fiber optic cables unless given the right to by government. The only thing sodetel can do is deploy its severs in some COs it gets access to, hence why it can offer 16 Mbps to a selected number of subscribers and even with that speed it still is struggling (check the sodetel thread).
Our main problem is the wires used by OGERO from the CO-DSLAM-Our houses. Not all lines are affected, I am between the lucky ones, I have over 30 SNR when syncing ADSL2+, can easily get the full 24mbps if they were provided. But not all people have the same luck, they just do not care if your stats are good or no.
By the quality of their equipments, for example when I walk here inside the city, I can easily find those boxes from where the wires come with broken doors w hek.
I think that the speeds are OK, our main problem is the quota, we need our unlimited night traffic back.
By the quality of their equipments, for example when I walk here inside the city, I can easily find those boxes from where the wires come with broken doors w hek.
I think that the speeds are OK, our main problem is the quota, we need our unlimited night traffic back.
Agreed. Although I would appreciate the faster speeds.
they don't have enough backup bandwidth to provide europe-level internet quota. This will exhaust the actualy infrastructure, and the average user will suffer from lower speeds..
We all want faster speeds, but in my opinion 6-8MB with unlimited night traffic would be perfect.andrew55 wroteAgreed. Although I would appreciate the faster speeds.
I am using this plan now with 60gb, and the speed is very good and stable, including the latency.
I have around 750kbps-850kbps and 60-70ms to all server in europe when playing BF4 =D
I can't get more than 4 Mbps. So I'd be happy with that kind of speed.
Guys, I am still on the 1mbps. They did not upgrade me to 2. Should I be calling someone or something?
I had to call them to get my connection upgraded to 2mbit/s, yeah try calling them but somehow I feel like it's up to luck whether you'll get upgraded or not.user wroteGuys, I am still on the 1mbps. They did not upgrade me to 2. Should I be calling someone or something?
A friend of mine just told me ogero called their house and told them they should stop using torrents otherwise they will terminate their connection !