Brashen
Gamer
Me too, the price is $500-$550, so i will have to save up for it
Im also waiting for the Ivy Bridge Intel Chips,
Wikipedia wroteIntel announced that it had begun production of Ivy Bridge chips in volume in the third quarter of 2011 with retail availability starting in April 2012, one source specified April 8 as the availability date. In February 2012, it was reported that Intel would postpone the launch of the dual-core mobile CPUs (not desktop CPUs or quad-core mobile CPUs) to June 2012 to allow more time to sell surplus inventory of Sandy Bridge CPUs, which accumulated due to slower than expected computer sales.
So I take it, that it would cost a minimum of $1,200, for a Motherboard (LGA 1155 or 2011), CPU, and GTX 680
AVOlio
Where can we get it .. ?!
And how come its between 500-550 $ .. ?! The GTX 580 3GB DDR5 is like 630 $.. why is 680 cheaper .. ?
And, guys, everyone in his opinion .. Would you post what are the proper specifications that should come with this new GTX 680.. Every specifications of the Case.. Starting with the minimum proper specifications, to recommended ones ..
Gamer
PCGAMER wroteOh, the price? Well, you can get the GTX 680 from a variety of Nvidia’s partners starting today at $500+. Given that a 580 will run you around $400+ and a dual GPU 590 will run you around $700+, I’d say that’s fair, if not downright reasonable.
Beej
The gtx 680 has codename GK104 as GPU. Which implies to high-midrange gpu, ala gf104 in our gtx 460 and gf114 in our gtx 560s.
Its 28nm and has a gpu die size of 296mm2, which is rather small, and 3.5B transistors. A gtx 580 is 520mm2 die size with 3b transistors. So its smaller, thus 1 wafer of 28nm @ tsmc will give you more gpus, thus less cost.
So yea thats the reason why a gtx 680 outperforms a gtx 580 and is less by 50$ and up to 100$+ in the US.
Also its 50$ cheaper than AMD 7970 and outperforms it in most games by an avg of 10-15% +-.
A Reference 7970 here in lebanon costs us 910$s @ pcandparts, or an asus non-reference designs (dcuII) costs 850 at ROG store.
I just contacted the ROG store, and he told me that he will price the card 800$s. Its reference card, since no nonreference cards are out yet. BUT it might not be Asus card, depending on availability. It could be pny,evga,msi, gigabyte...etc
So there you have it, pcandparts will get the card, he is usually 1/1.5months late and it might be priced similar or higher, dunno yet. But whats lovable about this card is that it perofmce great, without too much PSU needs.I can run i on my current 600w psu :D.
AVOlio
Umm, guys still no one wrote down the proper case specifications that should come with GTX 680
Im talking about the CPU, PSU etc... and all the stuff that matters,
Lets start with the minimum specifications, and then recommended for better performance..
Please guys, everyone in his opinion ..
Im thinkin of getting myself a new entire whole case with GTX 680
Beej
There is no such thing as "proper case spec". Since it can strech from a good old Core 2 duo passing all the cpus up to the sandy bridge E cpu.
But lets be real, whatever you accompany this card, the more the better untill you reach a point where more cpu will u give u negligible fps.
Psu is 550w,thats the technical recommendation that all will agree on.
If you can tell us ur case specifiations, cpu/psu, we will have better idea to tell you to: 1. Go for it or 2. upgrade this or that.
But ill put myself in ur shoes, if i want to buy an entire case, i would go for an i5 based system 2400/2500/2500k/2600/2600k with a good psu 600-700w and i am set. You could cheap out on the components for the sake of spending on a gpu, which will give you better fps, but you will still not see the same avg fps as others have with better systems.
Example, is it better to buy a z68 based motherboard with a 2600k cpu and a gtx 560 ti, or an h61 motherboard with i3 2100 and a gtx 680? The latter will give better fps for sure, but even that you will not see the same fps as everyone having the best of both worlds.
My suggestion is get the card now, and upgrade when ivy bridge comes out with a z77 motherbord. Although, IB is just a smaller sandy bridge with power consumption and tdp in mind, with minor upgrades. So they are almost equal, and they are definitly equal in gaming scenarios since cpu has little to do with graphics.
AVOlio
Thanks for your reply bro,
The deal is i dont wanna upgrade, i want to buy a whole new case.
For now, i put in my head that the cpu would be i7 2600.. (the one which my bro has now)
PSU, pretty sure that i want more than 700 W , cause i dont wanna deal with damages later cause of lack of PSU, like some people i know. I looked into PCandparts for some cases with 700W+ PSU, their all out of stock :S
RAM : minimum 8 GB !
Motherboard: This is where i actually need your ideas, which do you recommend with my the stuff i just mentionned
HDD: at least 1000 GB minimum xD
And of course GTX 680 ..
Beej
With the 2600 you will not be able tooverclock it much, so dont see a reason to buy a motherboard thats is packed with all overclocking goodies, if we wont benefit from them. So the asus z68 v LE will be good.
On the psu side, indeed the good ones are all out, i dont know about the gigabyte greenmax psus, but they seem good. Also some had god experience with inwin 750w, but not the cooler master 700w.
Ram, just get value ram 4g x2, since you will not be overclocking and whats not, no need for high speed ram that will give you 1-2fps in games and few points in benchmarks.
Now if your going to place the order of a gtx 680 @ ROG store, well then i can recommend you a few options that will be better and cost less. Its all up to you.
AvoK95
The ROG Store already got the GTX 680 ! It costs about 800$ (I'm sure the prices will be reduced after a while.
Aly
I always refer to this when choosing a VGA from Nvidia:
http://www.nvidia.com/content/HelpMeChoose/fx2/HelpMeChoose.asp?lang=en-us
For those who don't know it, you can compare cards over there and check for the system requirements, as for the GTX 680 the minimum power requirement is 550W.
AVOlio
Beej wroteOn the psu side, indeed the good ones are all out, i dont know about the gigabyte greenmax psus, but they seem good. Also some had god experience with inwin 750w, but not the cooler master 700w.
Why do you say so man? about not having Good experience with Cooler Master cases ? I hear their quite popular
Beej wroteNow if your going to place the order of a gtx 680 @ ROG store, well then i can recommend you a few options that will be better and cost less. Its all up to you.
The bottom line is, yes i am getting it, but not at the moment.
But since you mentioned "options".. What do you have to tell me ?!
Beej
Coolermaster psus, not cases. They have the best cases period. But the series @pcandparts rated 700w is not so good of a choice.
Well since my point is pointless, since in a few days z77 will launch and you should probably be looking into that, but you can order a 2500k and a asrock z68 extreme3 gen 3 motherboard. Its cheap and oc like a champ and is feature packed with a bit futur proof. It des support not only ivybridge cpus, but it supports pci-e 3.0. Which will do you good when u get IB cpu and already own a gtx 680.
So yea, pay less for more, or pay the same for more dunno the prices :D.
taekh3
Well mate, as my friend Beej said just wait a couple of day's to see the IV-B Performance where it's going to land in "OCing Figures, Benchmarking & Games" thus, the most important thing the support of PCI-E 3.0 in that case you will take the full advantage of your GTX680, as for the Prices don't worry mate ;).
So yea, pay less for more, or pay the same for more dunno the prices :D.
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The-MMMs
Waiting for benchmarks with PCI 3.0 Mobo's
Exciting :D
yasamoka
The-MMMs wroteWaiting for benchmarks with PCI 3.0 Mobo's
Exciting :D
We could probably extrapolate performance at such levels by running PCI-E 2.0 x16 (of course) which is equivalent to PCI-E 3.0 x8, and then x8 2.0 (which would simulate x4 3.0).
shant
AVOlio wroteThanks for your reply bro,
The deal is i dont wanna upgrade, i want to buy a whole new case.
For now, i put in my head that the cpu would be i7 2600.. (the one which my bro has now)
PSU, pretty sure that i want more than 700 W , cause i dont wanna deal with damages later cause of lack of PSU, like some people i know. I looked into PCandparts for some cases with 700W+ PSU, their all out of stock :S
RAM : minimum 8 GB !
Motherboard: This is where i actually need your ideas, which do you recommend with my the stuff i just mentionned
HDD: at least 1000 GB minimum xD
And of course GTX 680 ..
you don't need to get a 2600k, get an ivy bridge processor and an z77 board that has pci 3.0, so you take advantage of the 680's pci 3 speeds, as for ram, 8gb minimum, but that doesn't matter, aim for quality rams, psu, either xfx,thermaltake or cooler master, 750w wouldn't be bad for a start, as for hard disk, you might wanna get something fast if you're not getting an ssd, a computer that fast with a none raided hard disk is kind of useless, recommendation here, aim for high air flow cases and sli ready motherboards, you could probably get more performance with 2x 660's for a cheaper price, that again i recommend you not to rush until all intel ivy bridge processors and all nvidia kepler gpu's are released
edit:will you be overclocking?
AVOlio
shant wroteedit:will you be overclocking?
Nope, just the way they are !
taekh3
Well Avolio, you will OC the 680 believe me there's no way to stare at it everyday without playing with it, remember half of the fun after buying any product is OCing it in my case well let's say burning it sometimes :D, but you will be itching to have fun with it ;).
concerning your build just wait a couple of day's till IV-B rolls out.
AVOlio
Well of course im gonna be sitting on it for many many hours, specially on Battlefield 3 (which is the main reason why im gonna get this whole new case xD)
By the way, have you already got the GTX680 ?!
Where did u get it from? n for how much ?!
what about the i7 ? how much did it cost ? and the mboard
I just googled a little bit, the release date of Intel ivy bridge is at april 8th ..
time for a silly question, will it be generally more advanced and better than all the previous Intel cpu's i5,i7.. ??
And in what ways more ?
