Beej
@ The-MMMs:
Last COD i played was 4, i used to play it on hamachi with friends. On good days we get 120-150ms ping, and it was smooth. We tried MW2, but you know at first it didnt have dedicated servers, so we gave up on it and continue to play COD4.
I use terranet 256. Now it "shows" 1mb but its still 256 (better than before bu not 1mb). I want to know this, is the connection in our country will be enough and cheap to allow me to play online smoothly? If so bye bye 2000LL games for me.
Also some games need 30ms ping, if your higher it will not allow you to play. Also since BF3 has higher gfx and bigger map and 64 players, we need some beefy system and super fast connection :(.
The-MMMs
As long as you'll be connecting to EU servers or hosts then you should be fine as far as lag goes - with any game that is
However with battlefield bad company 2 i got at best 200ms (never less) game seems to be like so
As for Terranet, im not really so sure. A bunch of my friends on IDM play fine, try pinging bbc.co.uk or any website in the EU, specifically FR,GER,UK. You should have reasonable latency there.
I get even better Latency on my PS3 using a UK/EU based account. The graphics on consoles are gimped down A LOT , so the latency is better in some cases.
Anyway, yeah, it's still unreasonable to play with such low bandwidth connections, but as far as latency goes this is the best we will ever have man, so yeah ...
toxict51
@the MMM's
really lebanese servers on cod4?
you should tell me more about this maybe we can play together or something. on mw2 for example we can play together or even any game you want.
TheStunMan
toxict51 wrote@thestunman
i respect what you said but many people do compare games they play the demos and then compare or predict what the game might be.
thats a nice overclock for your i7 is it stable?what temp?
Exactly but modern warfare 3 doesnt have any beta or demo but we know that its developed by the same engine of modern warfare 2, im not saying that i dont like COD games in the contrary u may say im a fan of these games BUT if any gamer didnt play bf3 before hes missing alot i mean alot of fun and wicked graphics and the sounds just feels like a real war, bf3 is not meant to be played alone as of cod games, if you dont have a clan or a squad bf games will be pointless and no fun at all.
Thx, yes its stable but sometimes i get bsod (rarely) because of the rams im using g.skill :( but eventually ill change my rams, the temps are constantly @ ~40-44 degrees if full load and ~30-35 if no load im using ThermalTake CLP0564 Frio and its awesome.
Bassem
Can you operate vehicles in MW?
toxict51
Can you operate vehicles in MW?
no sure but in the trailer i saw a boat and a humvee not sure if they are operated by you, if you did not watch the trailer watch it and check
TheStunMan
You can operate as far as i can tell from the beta helicopters vehicles tanks F16, dunno if they will add more with the release.
shant
Beej wrote@ shant:
Isnt this what we want? To push our hardware to its limit?
BF3 is NOT unoptimized, on the contrary. Having high gpu demand or system demand is different when you already have that system and yet the game is unplayable, like GTA4.
Cod is known engine, and you will play it maxxed out no doubt. But BF3 is intriguing, yes you will not be able to max it out. But you can lower AA and remove SSAO and a couple of things (btw setting in the final game are different than beta), and still be able to enjoy better graphics than the competition while having smooth gameplay.
My opinion on these games is this: I buy MW3 just because its a trend, its like iphone, 1 person/friend buys it then all other buy it and i have to buy it to play with them. But BF3 is my own personal choice.
But i will not buy either untill i see stable, fast, cheap internet conection. Its a waste for $ to buy them and not play online.
P.S. Am tired of buying 2000 LL games :(.
i guess, but compared to crysis 2 in dx11 and high res textures,crysis 2 has better graphics and runs like a charm on my 460, while battlefield 3 doesn't seem to have better graphics than crysis2, and requires 580
toxict51
does anyone in here play mw2 on tunngle?
Beej
@Shant: I disagree.
We didnt see anything from BF3 yet. But am almost sure it will be the pinacle of gfx. Also crysis had a reputation of putting systems down to its knees. Did you know what crytek did with crysis 2 to actually make fps seem low, so that they fool you into thinking that the game is heavy?
They render the water under the map with dx11!!!!!
eurybaric
^ am i the only one that thinks crysis 2's gfx were shit?
I guess imma get MW3 for cheap. at least till online gaming starts being a reality here. Then i might consider buying MW3 for online.. I dunno about BF, as i never was a fan, but i might try it.
toxict51
thats nice information beej never knew that, i always wondered why the movement looks slow although im getting more than 40 fps but still crysis 2 was one of the best games i ever played
shant
well crysis 2 in dx11 and high res textures looked good to me,at least single player did,idk about multiplayer
Beej
I didnt say it wasnt good, it was a dx 11 showcase... I wish they added even more detail than rendering stuff thats not seen to fool us. Its indeed a console game, but crytek outdone themselves with the level of optimisation.
As for BF3 it will be another showcase of gfx and particle system.
Remember back in the ps2 days? Where an fps game overshadowed everything we saw? Remember the gme BLACK? It was amazing, the level of explosion and stuff. BF3 is just like that. Not a linear shooter like cod. Focuses more on events happening within the battlefield, rather than walking around killing everyone like an american movie.
I mean in BO all we did is shoot and jump from buildings to buildings without getting hurt. Even in mw2, you can jump from real high places and still be alive! It happens with first modernwarfare but atleast you slow down and your at the end of your life. And please dont let me start with all the knife killing! And the grenadelauncher? In 1st MW if it strickes you directly you die, or by it exploding. MW2 if it roles by your foot and touchs you you die?! And the knife throwing is just lol. /rant
Im getting both btw, but i will see if i can play it/them like first mw on hamachi. And wait for the connection to become more stable and better and see wich one deserves my $ and which deserves 2000LL. It could be both, but i am definitly not buying both full price.
shant
as long as i get to shoot people in the game, its good for me ;)
n00bPoWeR
BF3. Planes, choppers, tanks, cars, boats, parachuting, explosions, flying, sniping, big maps, squads, commanders, walls falling... need I say more?
Call of Duty probably gonna be like the 100 ones before, u walk forward, knife aim shoot... umm... shoot... and shoot... whoa i won a UAV! Wait I can't let go of button 1 on mouse and it's still shooting straight, I'm james bond.
o.O