HotCreep
Every Sodetel subscriber bashed on Sodetel, including me, for not upgrading during July. turns out Sodetel were the smart ones here. All private ISPs didn't get enought E1s, that if they got any, from ogero. But all of them felt obliged to release the new plans before the 1st of july to avoid customers' rants, after all the Hype the minister gave to the internet upgrade thingie in May. All ISPs knew that upgrading before getting the required E1s will be on the cost of their already bad QoS. Hence the blackouts, slow internet etc.. \
Sodetel took a different approach, they were clear that they won't upgrade anything before the get the required E1s from ogero. Their quality of service is still the same it used to be. I am subscribed to the 4mpbs plan and the speed never went below 3.2, even during the night when the quota wasn't being charged.
to be honest if i knew that this is why sodetel didn;t upgrade in july i would have saved my rants for ogero and the minister who claimed that, when announcing the upgrades last may, that ogero will be oh so helpful when it comes to providing isps with the required E1s.
Youssef is really pissing me off.
TechXero
HotCreep wroteEvery Sodetel subscriber bashed on Sodetel, including me, for not upgrading during July. turns out Sodetel were the smart ones here. All private ISPs didn't get enought E1s, that if they got any, from ogero. But all of them felt obliged to release the new plans before the 1st of july to avoid customers' rants, after all the Hype the minister gave to the internet upgrade thingie in May. All ISPs knew that upgrading before getting the required E1s will be on the cost of their already bad QoS. Hence the blackouts, slow internet etc.. \
Sodetel took a different approach, they were clear that they won't upgrade anything before the get the required E1s from ogero. Their quality of service is still the same it used to be. I am subscribed to the 4mpbs plan and the speed never went below 3.2, even during the night when the quota wasn't being charged.
to be honest if i knew that this is why sodetel didn;t upgrade in july i would have saved my rants for ogero and the minister who claimed that, when announcing the upgrades last may, that ogero will be oh so helpful when it comes to providing isps with the required E1s.
Youssef is really pissing me off.
That's more like it. Your analysis is very sound indeed. Sodetel, one of the worst if not THE worst provider I know of in many areas except Beirut and surroundings, did indeed choose the right way of doing things.
Hats down to them. I just wish IDM did the same thing.
andrew55
If there are no "enforced" rules, then people will do as they please and that is the case in this country.. sadly.. and i don't expect it to get any better.
Also good point about sodetel. However, there is a whole blog about sodetel with regards to how bad their speeds and pings are!
TechXero
andrew55 wroteIf there are no "enforced" rules, then people will do as they please and that is the case in this country.. sadly.. and i don't expect it to get any better.
In general I would agree. But, with the Internet it was always different in a good way. But yes, sadly time has come for them to join the crap.
HotCreep
andrew55 wroteIf there are no "enforced" rules, then people will do as they please and that is the case in this country.. sadly.. and i don't expect it to get any better.
Also good point about sodetel. However, there is a whole blog about sodetel with regards to how bad their speeds and pings are!
Mainly because they were more reliant on satellite downlinks rather than E1s. that needs to change before applying their new plans though, satellite downlinks are not "economically viable" for them anymore.
I am not sure about how their service is outside beirut, but I live in beirut and i am pretty satisfied.
I never get high pings btw :-P
georgesmh
I am in Amchit and in fact Sodetel is the best private ISP in this area especially before the upgrade because we belong to Sodetel Dsp so we got the 4mbps package while subscribers from other isp got the 2mbps speed for a higher price. My speed never had been lower than 3 mbps. I am not defending them they have their flaws clearly but lets not deny that sometimes they show superior to other ISPs
TechXero
georgesmh wroteI am in Amchit and in fact Sodetel is the best private ISP in this area especially before the upgrade because we belong to Sodetel Dsp so we got the 4mbps package while subscribers from other isp got the 2mbps speed for a higher price. My speed never had been lower than 3 mbps. I am not defending them they have their flaws clearly but lets not deny that sometimes they show superior to other ISPs
I did specify to my knowledge. They do have flaws, main one being that they don't cover as a wide area as others do. So they are bad in more areas than other private ISPs. Especially in mine which is Beit Merry Ain Saadeh.
Bottom line is, until private ISPs get more E1s, service will remain very bad. Unless they revert back to old plans which I don't see happening.
Very very very sad situation indeed...
andrew55
How can we know which COs belong to sodetel dsp?
TechXero
Just got off the phone with a guy I know that works at IDM. Called him on his Cell.
As it was mentioned here, they are currently providing us with new plans using bandwidth they have had for years. They are currently working around the clock to upgrade their own infrastructure and "Centrales" to accommodate the new plans. Things have happened so fast they were not given time to do so.
Might take a week for some areas, others more. As for the "FUP", it is indeed only applicable to unlimited plans not on limited. But due to entire infrastructure being upgraded, limited packages seem to indirectly be affected as well. All that will be remedied once all is done.
Now, that brings me to my final point, what is exactly considered as "Very High Daily Usage" and when does the "FUP" take place ? For now no exact numbers. But an average of 3gb/day is the extreme limit where a "Daily FUP" takes place. And more than that a "Monthly FUP" happens.
Now to explain that the simplest way I know. If you are in the <3gb/day area, "FUP" will apply to you (Medium Speed Throttling) and get reset at 00:00am. On the other hand, if you are in the > 3gb/day realm, like 10gb+, you are considered as an extreme downloader, which is where things turn to the worst. Yep, that means, that your speed will be extremely throttled, no exact values, but the nightmare'ish part is that, "FUP" will not be reset at 00:00am as with <3gb/day users. It will only be reset once every cycle/month. Very very bad in my book.
That, said, now it's much clearer to everyone, I hope. And for that I will be returning to a limited plan where things are much calmer, and more stable.
Hope this helps clear the cloud from an otherwise cloudy and iffy situation ;)
TechXero
Ahmad Toutounji wrotewhy do they call it unlimited if you are not allowed for more than 2gb let's say per day
That's the conspiracy my friend. Just smoke n mirrors. Unlimited in this case just means you can Skype more and download important emails and attachments without having to worry about any "limits". Not download movies n games without any limits.
It's not for us YouTubers or heavy gamers. And that's what I call utter BS.
wollyka
My problem with ISP (IDM) is a different one. I am currently subscribed to the 4 Mbps plan since years now and the connection was working properly. However, since the beginning of this month,I am having frequent disconnections(4Mbps/50GB). The situation got worse since yesterday, I am offline most of the time, the modem is trying to synchronize every few minutes. Etc... The sn margin is fluctuating a lot, sometimes it is in the upper 30/11 as normal,then it decreases to 20/2 and so on.
The modem is the new technicolor from IDM (i tried 2 different modems too), I changed the filters, I removed my phone completely, no handy phone is attached and it is all the same.
I tried calling them but the line is always busy!
Very disappointed!
TechXero
wollyka wroteMy problem with ISP (IDM) is a different one. I am currently subscribed to the 4 Mbps plan since years now and the connection was working properly. However, since the beginning of this month,I am having frequent disconnections(4Mbps/50GB). The situation got worse since yesterday, I am offline most of the time, the modem is trying to synchronize every few minutes. Etc... The sn margin is fluctuating a lot, sometimes it is in the upper 30/11 as normal,then it decreases to 20/2 and so on.
The modem is the new technicolor from IDM (i tried 2 different modems too), I changed the filters, I removed my phone completely, no handy phone is attached and it is all the same.
I tried calling them but the line is always busy!
Very disappointed!
Been having same issues like you. It's all part of the upgrade. Since they are upgrading their entire infrastructure it's affecting signal and other things. I called them 100 times and talked to them every time.
Only today did the guy clarify things. Read my last post on previous page.
HotCreep
The fact that Sodetel started upgrading the data rates on friday for their subscribers probably means that they will soon receive or already has received the required E1s
TechXero
HotCreep wroteThe fact that Sodetel started upgrading the data rates on friday for their subscribers probably means that they will soon receive or already has received the required E1s
Same goes for IDM. That's why guy told me a week or so from now things should get better.
Adnan
Ahmad Toutounji wrotewhy do they call it unlimited if you are not allowed for more than 2gb let's say per day
I don't think the problem is with calling it unlimited, it's with the advertised speed. You can use the internet as much as you want and not find yourself disconnected because your quota is over.
Ramnesia
I just do not get it, private isp and especially ogero, why don't they stop " yrab7ouna jmile" and introduce heavy download packages and with an increased cap.
andrew55
What infrastructure does IDM need to upgrade? from my understanding they aren't a dsp and ogero should do everything with regards to the upgrades. IDM like other ISPs needs extra E1s...
trent
At this rate the only unlimited deal that might be worth the cost is Ogero's (unless FUPs pop out of nowhere).
2-3GB limit per day before being FUPed on Unlimited with private ISPs is pointless (that's only 60-90GB per month). Just get a limited plan with as much day traffic as you need and relegate some downloads for off-peak free hours, like we used to do before July 1.
It will be cheaper and you can subscribe for faster speeds.
TechXero
andrew55 wroteWhat infrastructure does IDM need to upgrade? from my understanding they aren't a dsp and ogero should do everything with regards to the upgrades. IDM like other ISPs needs extra E1s...
Yeah exactly. Once they get the E1s they need to upgrade their Systems as well as DSPs they supply etc.. At least to my knowledge.
andrew55
So are they actually going to get the E1s? Is it confirmed and they're just waiting? Or is it just in theory? Lol.. b/c those are 2 different things..