andrew55 wroteWell neither do I .. they also had 2 stars next to the unlimited plans indicating FUP will be applied to those only.. the next day they took them off.. anyway.. time will tell..
yes i noticed that and i pointed it out to the tech guy who asked me to hold (i guess he asked someone who "really" knows) then he reassured me that the night quota won't be affected. somehow i am optimistic.
I think that the FUP on the limited plans applies on downloading during the unlimited period aka free night traffic.
These are my stats.
After we know about the free night quota issue, I want to upgrade to 6-8Mbps, shouldn't my max upload rate be more than 556Kbps.

Modulation: ADSL2 PLUS

Annex Mode: ANNEX_A

SNR Margin(Down/Up) 42.3 / 28.5 db

Line Attenuation(Down/Up) 17.6 / 11.9 db

Data Rate(Down/Up) 2048 / 509 kbps

Max Rate(Down/Up) 25560 / 556 kbps
NickTheQuick wrote I don't get it! what's the point of FUP for limited plans? they are limited! every extra GB will be paid !
You don't understand. The FUP applies between 11pm-7am, at this point the internet is unlimited, so once you download above the FUPs GB limitation, your speed will tremendously decrease.
Even then it wouldn't make sense, they should throttle the speed only in the 11-7 period.
In The other period, every extra gb is paid.
However I've never heard about fup for limited plans.
And what's the GB limit during night time? I'm still looking for an answer..

@Ramnesia your stats are excellent. Not too sure about the upload speeds but the majority of people are limited to 512.. adsl2+ reaches 1.4 anyway..
NuclearVision wroteEven then it wouldn't make sense, they should throttle the speed only in the 11-7 period.
In The other period, every extra gb is paid.
However I've never heard about fup for limited plans.
Cyberia has FUP on all plans as well.

I once downloaded over 6GB+ between 11-7, a few days later the speed became 30-60kb/s (only between 11-7) from its usual 230kb/s.

But after two nights, the connection speed became normal again in that period.
I just tried the adsl1 trick and my ping went from 93ms to 78ms and the max up rate went to 1216kbps.
seems reasonable i guess.. well, relatively speaking that is..

@ramnesia speedtest.net or pings on command prompt?
yea i would compare pings on command prompt. more reliable.. ping bbc.co.uk and compare on both connections


this is on adsl ITU G.992.2 ADSL Lite (G.lite) the cons are for my router
Max Rate(Down/Up):4800 736 kbps
bbc.co.uk on ADSL Lite (G.lite)

Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.18] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.244.18: bytes=32 time=86ms TTL=48
Reply from 212.58.244.18: bytes=32 time=85ms TTL=48
Reply from 212.58.244.18: bytes=32 time=85ms TTL=48
Reply from 212.58.244.18: bytes=32 time=88ms TTL=48

Ping statistics for 212.58.244.18:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 85ms, Maximum = 88ms, Average = 86ms
try G.dmt instead of G.lite and see what you get
G.dmt

Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.246.103] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.246.103: bytes=32 time=98ms TTL=49
Reply from 212.58.246.103: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=49
Reply from 212.58.246.103: bytes=32 time=94ms TTL=49
Reply from 212.58.246.103: bytes=32 time=94ms TTL=49

Ping statistics for 212.58.246.103:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 94ms, Maximum = 98ms, Average = 95ms
yea makes sense. G.lite will give you a better ping if in fact the DSLAM accepts it (not all will) but the problem with G.lite is the reduced speed. it's up to you to use whichever connection you prefer but if you want to upgrade to a higher speed i suggest you leave it on regular adsl (dmt) or adsl2+ just b/c i don't really know how Lebanese ISPs test how much speed your line can handle.. they might read your modem stats and check your CO (if someone knows more about this please correct me).
yeah as you said, when i upgrade i will leave it on adsl dmt , i am going to use the G.lite only with online games.
andrew55 wroteyea makes sense. G.lite will give you a better ping if in fact the DSLAM accepts it (not all will) but the problem with G.lite is the reduced speed. it's up to you to use whichever connection you prefer but if you want to upgrade to a higher speed i suggest you leave it on regular adsl (dmt) or adsl2+ just b/c i don't know really know how lebanese ISPs test how much speed your line can handle.. they might read your modem stats and check your CO (if someone knows more about this please correct me).
I second what Andrew said. take me for an example (one of my previous posts) when syncing to ADSL1 my isp told me my line can't handle more than 4mbps, when back to ADSL2+ they told me It can handle 6 mbps. So I suggest you call your isp in both cases and see what they tell you. I'm thinking of syncing back to ADSL1 after I get my 6mbps plan. hope it works without any problems or connection timeouts ! any expert advice would be much appreciated.
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