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julesb91

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

hey guys, can you give me some of your opinions about which isp is the most stable and provides good latencies.

From my experience I can say Ogero provides one of the most(if not the top) stable connections.. In terms of latency, Ogero's latency is good(90-120ms) in games but I've heard other ISPs provide a ping just as good or even better but stability wise Ogero is one of the top.

oh im sorry i forgot to mention that i want wireless broadband internet not dsl.. its between Sodetel/IDM/Terranet

nosense

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

hey guys, can you give me some of your opinions about which isp is the most stable and provides good latencies.

From my experience I can say Ogero provides one of the most(if not the top) stable connections.. In terms of latency, Ogero's latency is good(90-120ms) in games but I've heard other ISPs provide a ping just as good or even better but stability wise Ogero is one of the top.

oh im sorry i forgot to mention that i want wireless broadband internet not dsl.. its between Sodetel/IDM/Terranet

Theres no good latency in wireless broadband

julesb91

Member

Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

so there is no solution other than dsl? i don't have a land line and can't get one

Adnan

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

I have been noticing very good improvements in latency lately. The most surprising part is that the ping to my ISP is 4 times lower than it used to be.
I would like to know if anyone is experiencing this ? And could it mean anything in the near future ?

adnan@Debian:~$ ping www.sodetel.net.lb -c 10
PING www.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=13.6 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=2 ttl=59 time=9.42 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=3 ttl=59 time=9.12 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=4 ttl=59 time=10.2 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=5 ttl=59 time=10.6 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=6 ttl=59 time=12.7 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=7 ttl=59 time=9.31 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=8 ttl=59 time=10.3 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=9 ttl=59 time=9.50 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=10 ttl=59 time=11.7 ms

--- www.sodetel.net.lb ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9014ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 9.125/10.670/13.651/1.471 ms

Latencies to common websites vary from 40ms to 80ms.

m_zeid

Member

Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

I have been noticing very good improvements in latency lately. The most surprising part is that the ping to my ISP is 4 times lower than it used to be.
I would like to know if anyone is experiencing this ? And could it mean anything in the near future ?

adnan@Debian:~$ ping www.sodetel.net.lb -c 10
PING www.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=13.6 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=2 ttl=59 time=9.42 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=3 ttl=59 time=9.12 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=4 ttl=59 time=10.2 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=5 ttl=59 time=10.6 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=6 ttl=59 time=12.7 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=7 ttl=59 time=9.31 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=8 ttl=59 time=10.3 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=9 ttl=59 time=9.50 ms
64 bytes from data.sodetel.net.lb (89.108.129.41): icmp_seq=10 ttl=59 time=11.7 ms

--- www.sodetel.net.lb ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9014ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 9.125/10.670/13.651/1.471 ms

Latencies to common websites vary from 40ms to 80ms.

seems good, can you plz ping 8.8.8.8 and bbc.co.uk ?

Adnan

Member

Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Here you go:

--- www.bbc.net.uk ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9012ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 66.603/67.357/69.254/0.794 ms

--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4003ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 62.100/63.977/66.863/1.611 ms

m_zeid

Member

Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Here you go:

--- www.bbc.net.uk ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9012ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 66.603/67.357/69.254/0.794 ms

--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4003ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 62.100/63.977/66.863/1.611 ms

And you are in Tripoli? that's awesome dude. My ping results are ~120 !!

Adnan

Member

Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Mine used to be like this too. My CO is in Tripoli Tell and I'm synced on G.DMT (ADSL). Are you synced on ADSL2+ ? What's your CO ?

m_zeid

Member

Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Mine used to be like this too. My CO is in Tripoli Tell and I'm synced on G.DMT (ADSL). Are you synced on ADSL2+ ? What's your CO ?

Pretty much the same.
CO: Tall
ISP: Wise
Location: Zahriye
Mode: forgot what is it, I will dig in modem today and try different ADSL modes and also ADSL2

Also I'm little concerned about my phone line, so I will change it.
Here I have 3 options for it:
1- run a regular phone cable (CAT 3) externally from box to appartment
2- run a CAT6/CAT5e cable the same way, but here getting advantage of the cable quality and twists
3- install the dsl modem right next to the phone box, it willl be enclosed with a protective box. The phone line will run to the box, plugged in to the splitter that I will put there, the dsl port will be directly connected to the modem, and the other phone port will be connected back to the current in-wall cables back to the appartment. Finally I will run a CAT6/CAT5e from the modem downstairs right up to my apartment and connected to the router in home.

What do you think? Should I open a separate thread for this to discuss it?

makhoder

Member

Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Mine used to be like this too. My CO is in Tripoli Tell and I'm synced on G.DMT (ADSL). Are you synced on ADSL2+ ? What's your CO ?

Pretty much the same.
CO: Tall
ISP: Wise
Location: Zahriye
Mode: forgot what is it, I will dig in modem today and try different ADSL modes and also ADSL2

Also I'm little concerned about my phone line, so I will change it.
Here I have 3 options for it:
1- run a regular phone cable (CAT 3) externally from box to appartment
2- run a CAT6/CAT5e cable the same way, but here getting advantage of the cable quality and twists
3- install the dsl modem right next to the phone box, it willl be enclosed with a protective box. The phone line will run to the box, plugged in to the splitter that I will put there, the dsl port will be directly connected to the modem, and the other phone port will be connected back to the current in-wall cables back to the appartment. Finally I will run a CAT6/CAT5e from the modem downstairs right up to my apartment and connected to the router in home.

What do you think? Should I open a separate thread for this to discuss it?

Post the stats of your modem, the SNR and those stuff. Then we can see if there is a problem with your line

m_zeid

Member

Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Mine used to be like this too. My CO is in Tripoli Tell and I'm synced on G.DMT (ADSL). Are you synced on ADSL2+ ? What's your CO ?

Pretty much the same.
CO: Tall
ISP: Wise
Location: Zahriye
Mode: forgot what is it, I will dig in modem today and try different ADSL modes and also ADSL2

Also I'm little concerned about my phone line, so I will change it.
Here I have 3 options for it:
1- run a regular phone cable (CAT 3) externally from box to appartment
2- run a CAT6/CAT5e cable the same way, but here getting advantage of the cable quality and twists
3- install the dsl modem right next to the phone box, it willl be enclosed with a protective box. The phone line will run to the box, plugged in to the splitter that I will put there, the dsl port will be directly connected to the modem, and the other phone port will be connected back to the current in-wall cables back to the appartment. Finally I will run a CAT6/CAT5e from the modem downstairs right up to my apartment and connected to the router in home.

What do you think? Should I open a separate thread for this to discuss it?

Post the stats of your modem, the SNR and those stuff. Then we can see if there is a problem with your line

I don't think SNR and attenuation is the only parameters to affect latency. Anyway I will post them later today.

Yet another thing I forgot to mention, that a friend also subscribed with Wise dsl and also from Tripoli with CO is Tall, and the same plan
So we are basically the same in every thing. But his ping results to 8.8.8.8 and bbc.co.uk gives ~80s like 87 and 88. That freaked/pissed me !

On the other side, my neighbor subscribed with ogero dsl and has latency slightly better than mine but still above 110 ms

can it be our DSLAM and neighborhood connections causing this?

makhoder

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

The stats can show us if you are in FAST (lower latency) or interleaved (higher latency). Here I have OGERO 6-8MB, also CO Tripoli Tall
I have ping 70ms to 8.8.8.8 and 65ms to www.google.com

ballad

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

guys whats the cost to setup a fixed phone line?

m_zeid

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

guys whats the cost to setup a fixed phone line?

no cost at all, used to be like 50,000 i think, but MoT changed that to free

ballad

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

guys whats the cost to setup a fixed phone line?

no cost at all, used to be like 50,000 i think, but MoT changed that to free

that's nice to hear
and whats the approx time to setup a phone line and an ogero dsl connection?

makhoder

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

guys whats the cost to setup a fixed phone line?

no cost at all, used to be like 50,000 i think, but MoT changed that to free

that's nice to hear
and whats the approx time to setup a phone line and an ogero dsl connection?

A line took me 1 week , even less but ADSL can vary from 2 weeks until 1month and a half,
Mine here took less than 2 weeks when I first got the old 2M/20GB last year

FakeDsl

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Does anyone know of any wireless solution that I can use to play online games with respectable latency?
I can't use DSL Coz my phone line cannot support more than a128k speed connection (ogero's reasoning for that is that I live far from the central.. I live in awkar and central is in antelias smh), and the local cable here has a ping of 500+ ms using speedtest, even though I'm using his best type of accounts.
I'd appreciate the help guys. Thanks.

NAM

Member

Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

I would say try mobi or any of the relatives .. they maybe expensive but when i had the ping was about 130-150ms .. free download at night .. please make sure you have a good signal where you live before you buy because it is expensive

hkbazzi

Member

Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

guys can you please post your pings in games like CS:GO and ISP/Plan and location.

Example:
Game: League of Legends
Ping: 105
ISP: Cyberia
Plan: 6MB
Location: Hazmiyeh

makhoder

Member

Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Game: Any game with Europe Servers
Ping: 60-75 (depends on location)
ISP: Ogero
Plan: 6MB-8MB/60gb
Location: Tripoli tall

hkbazzi

Member

Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Whattttt!! hold on, how much do you download? is 60GB enough for you? how many people use it in the house? you probably have the best ping in lebanon! how often do game??

john

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Whattttt!! hold on, how much do you download? is 60GB enough for you? how many people use it in the house? you probably have the best ping in lebanon! how often do game??

Its normal ping on ogero.

hkbazzi

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

Whattttt!! hold on, how much do you download? is 60GB enough for you? how many people use it in the house? you probably have the best ping in lebanon! how often do game??

Its normal ping on ogero.

would i get the same ping with the 2MB unlimited plan?

hkbazzi

Member

Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

can someone explain to me the difference between the internet line and regular line? will an internet line improve the quality of my internet connection? Its in the setup price part of the page

https://www.ogero.gov.lb/Published/EN/dslcprices.html

Last edited by hkbazzi (April 26 2015)

DNA

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Re: Internet Speed and Latency in Lebanon

hkbazzi man it doesn't matter if you switch to ogero, the base ping on DSL is dependent on the quality of your phone line and the DSLAM router combo.. what makes him get ~65ms is that his line is too good so interleaving is reduced on the line automatically thus lowering his ping by 30 to 40ms so your 105ms figure is very good if your line is weak. geographical location doesn't matter as well only ~5-10ms difference the main thing is the interleaving. from exactly the same place 2Mb from Ogero one of my lines has 65ms to europe the other 100ms the first one has interleaving disabled.

no nothing changes between internet line and phone line cause they are the same,i think the first just has no number attached.