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Geoleb

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Appraisal of an Antique Dagger

Hello everyone, are there any antique collectors among us here ?

I have this old dagger which i believe to be very rare and would like to know more about it and its value these days. It is a Mamluk dagger from the era of al-Malik al-Nasir Nasir al-Din Muhammad ben Qalawun ..
Nickname: Abu al-Ma'ali (أبو المعالى  1285–1341) who was the ninth Mamluk sultan of Egypt.
As the carving on the dagger says :  " العز لمولانا السلطان الملك الناصر "
So any experts in the house who can share more info about it please ?

These are some photos of it :

Close up Writing Carving View : http://s2.postimg.org/nzpf677ll/image.jpg

Close up Hand Carving View : http://s24.postimg.org/ci36jo84l/image.jpg

General view of the front : http://s24.postimg.org/da5uivcbp/image.jpg

General view of the Back : http://s2.postimg.org/nzpf677ll/image.jpg

The Dagger in and Out : http://s24.postimg.org/jk145vbqd/image.jpg

Thank you in Advance !

Last edited by Geoleb (June 11 2013)

chosen2k

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Re: Appraisal of an Antique Dagger

Looks like those daggers you can buy for 3.000 l.l are you sure about it's authenticity?

I have something that looks like it bought 10 years ago from baalbek, if I find it home I'll post the pics.

Geoleb

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Re: Appraisal of an Antique Dagger

hehe No definitely not the 3000 L.L kind .. all the details and carvings are hand made not a machine job you can notice the lines and the "Phrase" is not a common sentence used since old days .. plus the copper is genuine with appropriate weight .. However for more accuracy are there any tests ( chemical, ... ) that could be done to indicate the exact age of such an item ?

Guitaret

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Re: Appraisal of an Antique Dagger

I am a coin collector (since as long as I can remember) but I am recently introduced to other antiques as I am trying to sell some for a guy I know. I am not the antique expert (except for coins) but I know some and I will ask them about yours if I ever met them in the near future. The problem is they live in Biqa3 and Baalbek so I won't be able to be of help anytime soon and I cannot do this on the phone.

I am not claiming to be an expert on this but the wooden handle does not look that old so your item might be fake or "not so old copy" and in that case it could be worth something. Anyway it is rare to find something as authentic as it claims in the dagger market but this does not mean yours is not.

For all it's worth have a look at my friend's authentic collection and by the way his antique handguns collection is more interesting and I am in the process of finding a buyer.

http://postimg.org/image/4ixjjun19/

http://postimg.org/image/d55ei6of1/

http://postimg.org/image/j3emeohzx/

http://postimg.org/image/j4ok83jtp/

http://postimg.org/image/ivvkvwwf1/

http://postimg.org/image/pl24bxhr1/

http://postimg.org/image/3yrp8n8kd/

http://postimg.org/image/i2iz3aqe5/

http://postimg.org/image/u5sw4lqu5/

http://postimg.org/image/3utaendp9/

Geoleb

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Re: Appraisal of an Antique Dagger

Thank you Guitaret, yes it would be very helpful if you ask around please and it may turn out as copy or authentic, however in both cases i'll still love it .. i love antiques in general  .. and am a coin collector as well ^^

That's a very nice collection of daggers you posted ! what kind of prices you're looking for ? .. Maybe i can help you finding some buyers.

Joe

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Re: Appraisal of an Antique Dagger

http://postimg.org/image/3yrp8n8kd/

http://postimg.org/image/i2iz3aqe5/

This one has "MOUSSA CASTLE LEBANON" written in Latin letters...

chosen2k

Member

Re: Appraisal of an Antique Dagger

Introducing the fake dagger

rtp

Member

Re: Appraisal of an Antique Dagger

so did Mamluk sultan of Egypt stab anybody with it?

Last edited by rtp (June 12 2013)

Guitaret

Member

Re: Appraisal of an Antique Dagger

That's a very nice collection of daggers you posted ! what kind of prices you're looking for ? .. Maybe i can help you finding some buyers.

I'll ask for the daggers but right now I am involved in selling the guns. I posted their images below for all to see and they all date to World War I (European made and late, 1880 - 1920's).

If you are interested in finding me a buyer for those, send me a pm and I'll give you the details and we will help each other.

High resolution gallery: http://postimg.org/gallery/1oantq90/

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Last edited by Guitaret (June 12 2013)

Geoleb

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Re: Appraisal of an Antique Dagger

Thank you Chosen2k for posting the dagger that's a good reference source to help clear the image !
Hehe RTP i hope not !
Yes Guitaret we'll talk in PM !