No you wouldn't reach their satellites from here until they start covering part of Europe at least. Even so, it doesn't work in the traditional way a satellite does where you would be able to get it off a European beaming satellite by getting a bigger dish. We would need them to directly beam it on the middle east and the middle east with all its bureaucracy is not worth the headache.

Think of it this way, Tesla with their power walls and solar panels would be a prime candidate for every country in the middle east (who gets more sun than this region?). But for them to come to Saudi, UAE, Kuwait (talking big countries with a lot of money, not Lebanon with a million citizens most of which are in apartments) the requirements are ridiculous so no real reputable self respecting company would invest and share their technology there. They fell for that trick in China and never again.

Arab leaders are too disconnected and arrogant. It ain't happening, and also, an uncensored, unmonitored internet in the middle east?! That's blasphemy!
very few will able to afford in anyways, the government doesn't allow competition to Ogero from local companies you would be crazy to think that they would allow something like starlink they would ban it for sure.
It is banned and illegal already, fines are quite severe.
All data must pass through ogero here, making sat internet illegal to use. You can get fined 10M+ LBP as an individual if you try to use sat internet and you will most likely be accused of treason.
I am not sure they can stop this (at least this regime)---all you need is a starter kit ($500)--not sure if it is Canadian or USD though and you are off---and also, $100 for unlimited use. I was watching this and found this pretty funny----start around 10 minute mark https://youtu.be/Fh1a2K9ZgNA when he is talking about latency.
xazbrat wroteI am not sure they can stop this (at least this regime)---all you need is a starter kit ($500)--not sure if it is Canadian or USD though and you are off---and also, $100 for unlimited use. I was watching this and found this pretty funny----start around 10 minute mark https://youtu.be/Fh1a2K9ZgNA when he is talking about latency.
that's nice and all but how are you gonna get it into the country?
RandomMemory wrote
xazbrat wroteI am not sure they can stop this (at least this regime)---all you need is a starter kit ($500)--not sure if it is Canadian or USD though and you are off---and also, $100 for unlimited use. I was watching this and found this pretty funny----start around 10 minute mark https://youtu.be/Fh1a2K9ZgNA when he is talking about latency.
that's nice and all but how are you gonna get it into the country?
You may have to go outside the country to bring it in, but it is pretty low profile, so it could be brought in parts and wouldn't raise any flags. Doesn't matter anyway, it will be a while before it is even potentially available in this part of the world. The only coverage seems to be in the US and Canada atm and as has been pointed out in many places, every single large scale satellite internet venture has failed, so may be for naught anyway.
nuclearcat wroteIt is banned and illegal already, fines are quite severe.
Yea right, it already falls under the category of sat internet
xazbrat wrote
RandomMemory wrote
xazbrat wroteI am not sure they can stop this (at least this regime)---all you need is a starter kit ($500)--not sure if it is Canadian or USD though and you are off---and also, $100 for unlimited use. I was watching this and found this pretty funny----start around 10 minute mark https://youtu.be/Fh1a2K9ZgNA when he is talking about latency.
that's nice and all but how are you gonna get it into the country?
You may have to go outside the country to bring it in, but it is pretty low profile, so it could be brought in parts and wouldn't raise any flags. Doesn't matter anyway, it will be a while before it is even potentially available in this part of the world. The only coverage seems to be in the US and Canada atm and as has been pointed out in many places, every single large scale satellite internet venture has failed, so may be for naught anyway.
How is it low profile though it's a one piece dish
RandomMemory wrote
xazbrat wrote
RandomMemory wrote that's nice and all but how are you gonna get it into the country?
You may have to go outside the country to bring it in, but it is pretty low profile, so it could be brought in parts and wouldn't raise any flags. Doesn't matter anyway, it will be a while before it is even potentially available in this part of the world. The only coverage seems to be in the US and Canada atm and as has been pointed out in many places, every single large scale satellite internet venture has failed, so may be for naught anyway.
How is it low profile though it's a one piece dish
The dish itself is 19 inches (48cm) which can you can bring in as luggage (maybe change the packaging) and the whole package itself (everything) is 7-8kg. Again, we are looking waaaaay down the future before it is potentially available. According to Linus, he was getting 125 mb speed and I would think that some 'ishtirak' guys would bring this in and easily charge $50 (or more) for a 10 meg speeds for a dozen subscribers easily making up the $100 monthly fee that Starlink is charging now. I wouldn't worry about it this happening anytime soon.
I am 100% sure that if you go to certain areas of lebanon, companies are spoofing their traffic by getting most of it out of external sources still. Sadly all these ishtirak people only care about providing the bare minimum service and don't maintain their infra.
RandomMemory wroteI am 100% sure that if you go to certain areas of lebanon, companies are spoofing their traffic by getting most of it out of external sources still. Sadly all these ishtirak people only care about providing the bare minimum service and don't maintain their infra.
As far as i know they don't. Last scandal was painful enough + they dont have $ anymore.
19 days later
website now says that lebanon is target for 2022 and we can pay a deposit with first come first serve when it launches
what do you guys think ?

nosense wrotewebsite now says that lebanon is target for 2022 and we can pay a deposit with first come first serve when it launches
what do you guys think ?

https://i.imgur.com/kCi5nmE.png
It will 100% depend on legislation and will most probably be banned here.
Go for it. But know that you will definitely have to bring in with your luggage without getting caught. Others have done it for normal internet through satellite.

And make sure you install it and not tell anyone. Otherwise you'll be a "spy" lol.
do you have 100$ to spare every month? That's the price of the subscription. And this amount is fully refundable, if you plan to stay here and can afford it go for it, if it doesn't work out they will refund you but you also have to spend 299$ more when it's out to get the actual product.
=beezer
And make sure you install it and not tell anyone. Otherwise you'll be a "spy" lol.
As if they can decrypt VPN connections a spy doesn't need a dish on his roof. it is all about the monopoly and keeping their pockets full, I am not sure what role does private ISPs play in lebanon other than reseller for ogero to steal more money for shittier service cause it is impossible that they provide better service than ogero given they need to share bandwidth but maybe they are smuggling bandwidth as I see ASs not linked with ogero and directly to foriegn ISPs but could be for something else.

If they allow them to get there own installations and get their own bandwidth from abroad so we can have some competition and let the price be set by the free market until then we will keep having shit service on bad infrastructure by trash ISPs who all belong to one or 2 companies different names same shit.
It is sad that starlink is banned before it rolls out as it falls under the sat internet category, am not sure if they can force starlink to not provide the service in one way or another. ikreidieh follows elon musk on twitter hope he learns something from him.
private isp in lebanon= buy N bandwidth from ogero ->sell N/100 for 1000 clients, and throttle the heck out of them under what they call fup, until bandwidth <N