Hello,

Do you think that this internet will be fine for a net cafe?
What will the ping be like?
We are considering moving from a 8mbps down 4mbps up to 6mbps wdsl.
alcolopa wroteHello,

Do you think that this internet will be fine for a net cafe?
What will the ping be like?
We are considering moving from a 8mbps down 4mbps up to 6mbps wdsl.
Not much lower than ADSL or fiber, not steady stable, but very consistent in range, e.g 40ms to 60ms up and down not more, no spikes or jitter, even under heavy traffic, adsl spikes to hundreds under load, fiber +10ms. They're using nstreme2, unlike regular 802.11, it favors latency over bandwidth, 12mbps would go down to 10 under heavy fog latency remains unchanged, I suspect you wont notice anything at 6.
Kareem wroteI think I'm going to try the WDSL thing.

I called them and I guess it's a good deal ( compared to Lebanon of course )

- 12Mb/s symmetrical up/down
- No FUP
- No quota
- 270,000 LL + VAT
- 300,000 LL installation
- One real static IP ( yup )
- No speed higher than 12mbps.
- No IPv6
You can always use tunnelbroker for ipv6, they have better routes and hops than native enterprise ipv6 in lebanon as well.
Thanks for the reply btw we weren't on fiber we were using microwave if that's what it is called and it's pretty expensive!
6 days later
12mbps is pretty low for that super expensive price. but the stability is very very tempting
Welp, today we had decent amount of fog, 10m visible, and the connection was low at 0.4mbps for an hour...
Guess I'll bond my unstable ADSL and WDSL using MP-TCP over a VPS. Standard load balancer/failover switches suck, same with multiwan, they only work with parallel streams, and does not improve single tcp and voip etc, if one connection disconnects the entire network is interrupted for a second or so.
you're gonna have varying success with that and the round trip is gonna be a killer...
RandomMemory wroteyou're gonna have varying success with that and the round trip is gonna be a killer...
Can you elaborate please? I've had hard time making it fail with Openmptcp in virtual machines with pl loss and latency simulation using clumsy, results blew me away. (unrealistic exaggerated worst case +15ms while literally unplugging and re plugging the connector as fast as possible - after the subflow is recreated)
I think this deserves a dedicated post.
I've had issues making it work before over 2 ISPs and I had to go with load balancing and just accepting the fact that I have to live with combined speeds on multistream. Please make a dedicated post with the results.
RandomMemory wroteI've had issues making it work before over 2 ISPs and I had to go with load balancing and just accepting the fact that I have to live with combined speeds on multistream. Please make a dedicated post with the results.
Sure but I think everyone is curious to know how you tried to make it work with bonding, there are MANY ways.
Ya like jazz wrote
RandomMemory wroteI've had issues making it work before over 2 ISPs and I had to go with load balancing and just accepting the fact that I have to live with combined speeds on multistream. Please make a dedicated post with the results.
Sure but I think everyone is curious to know how you tried to make it work with bonding, there are MANY ways.
He said load balancing not bonding . If interested I have a load balancer for a reasonable price. ( 1 time fee)

And a friend of mine is offering bonding services to companies. ( monthly or yearly payments)
elserge82 wrote
Ya like jazz wrote
RandomMemory wroteI've had issues making it work before over 2 ISPs and I had to go with load balancing and just accepting the fact that I have to live with combined speeds on multistream. Please make a dedicated post with the results.
Sure but I think everyone is curious to know how you tried to make it work with bonding, there are MANY ways.
He said load balancing not bonding . If interested I have a load balancer for a reasonable price. ( 1 time fee)

And a friend of mine is offering bonding services to companies. ( monthly or yearly payments)
"you're gonna have varying success with that and the round trip is gonna be a killer..."
"I've had issues making it work before over 2 ISPs"
Ya like jazz wrote
elserge82 wrote
Ya like jazz wrote Sure but I think everyone is curious to know how you tried to make it work with bonding, there are MANY ways.
He said load balancing not bonding . If interested I have a load balancer for a reasonable price. ( 1 time fee)

And a friend of mine is offering bonding services to companies. ( monthly or yearly payments)
"you're gonna have varying success with that and the round trip is gonna be a killer..."
"I've had issues making it work before over 2 ISPs"
I'm using it with 3 ISP sources and very happy with the output. I don't feel the load unless 2 lines goes down. And as mentioned earlier acestream and torrents are combined. check reviews on this one TL-R470T+
elserge82 wrote
Ya like jazz wrote
elserge82 wrote
He said load balancing not bonding . If interested I have a load balancer for a reasonable price. ( 1 time fee)

And a friend of mine is offering bonding services to companies. ( monthly or yearly payments)
"you're gonna have varying success with that and the round trip is gonna be a killer..."
"I've had issues making it work before over 2 ISPs"
I'm using it with 3 ISP sources and very happy with the output. I don't feel the load unless 2 lines goes down. And as mentioned earlier acestream and torrents are combined. check reviews on this one TL-R470T+
??? Very misleading info, what happens if you have one of the lines slow or intermittent and your downloading a single stream file? What happens when the main gets disconnected while gaming or VoIP? That's not how a load balancer is used for, probably as a backup for failure but not intermittent disconnections, it works for you but it doesn't work for me, I need a stable connection like a regular internet not specifics like torrents and multi-stream formats which are the minority, would still go with a balancer if I had two stable and fast connection and need redundancy, but as you see that's way off topic and I'm not sure what started this subject. Consistency not speed, Conditions: ADSL resyncing every 15 mins, WDSL in foggy and heavy rain speed decrease. I'll stop replying further and start a new thread.
So if you have 10M an in foggy and rain, how much decrease you get? to 8 or 9? Or even lower than that?
TheIlluminative wroteSo if you have 10M an in foggy and rain, how much decrease you get? to 8 or 9? Or even lower than that?
I think it was 1mbps, sometimes 0.4mbps for few hours, I was using Teamviewer for a client and it was a mess, had to pay for data, this happens frequently in the mountains unfortunately.
To add, latency was 100ms to google instead of the usual 50ms, kinda impressive considering the major speed decrease.
Ya like jazz wrote
elserge82 wrote
Ya like jazz wrote
"you're gonna have varying success with that and the round trip is gonna be a killer..."
"I've had issues making it work before over 2 ISPs"
I'm using it with 3 ISP sources and very happy with the output. I don't feel the load unless 2 lines goes down. And as mentioned earlier acestream and torrents are combined. check reviews on this one TL-R470T+
??? Very misleading info, what happens if you have one of the lines slow or intermittent and your downloading a single stream file? What happens when the main gets disconnected while gaming or VoIP? That's not how a load balancer is used for, probably as a backup for failure but not intermittent disconnections, it works for you but it doesn't work for me, I need a stable connection like a regular internet not specifics like torrents and multi-stream formats which are the minority, would still go with a balancer if I had two stable and fast connection and need redundancy, but as you see that's way off topic and I'm not sure what started this subject. Consistency not speed, Conditions: ADSL resyncing every 15 mins, WDSL in foggy and heavy rain speed decrease. I'll stop replying further and start a new thread.
Thank you for your disrespectful reply. I was going to offer you a test trial since my lb is used and I have nothing to lose. Anyways , if you have a bad LB or you have miss-configured it that;s your problem good luck with it. I;m out.
Ya like jazz wrote
TheIlluminative wroteSo if you have 10M an in foggy and rain, how much decrease you get? to 8 or 9? Or even lower than that?
I think it was 1mbps, sometimes 0.4mbps for few hours, I was using Teamviewer for a client and it was a mess, had to pay for data, this happens frequently in the mountains unfortunately.
To add, latency was 100ms to google instead of the usual 50ms, kinda impressive considering the major speed decrease.
Do you mean it goes down by 1 and 0.4 or it goes down till 1? If you lose 1 or 0.4 it's OK, but to lose all the way to 1 it's disaster..
5 days later
is this working?
are you guys getting promised bandwidth with current usage and weather?
8 months later
Does anyone know if terranet WDSL has cache that goes beyond 12mbps on the 12mbps account (for things like bnet and steam and youtube)