kfc
andrew55 wrote@Kfc You can never be sure of anything in Lebanon but technically speaking, you might experience disconnections at the maximum speed mentioned by your modem.
so if idm fix my speed at 3.7 or 3.8 mbps instead of 4.0 mbps , the disconnection problem would be solved?
andrew55 wrote I forced my TG585 V8 modem to sync on adsl1 instead of adsl2+.
do you advise me to do that to be able to benefit from the full 4.0 mbps speed without disconnections? is it a safe practice?
haidcar
kfc wroteandrew55 wrote@Kfc You can never be sure of anything in Lebanon but technically speaking, you might experience disconnections at the maximum speed mentioned by your modem.
so if idm fix my speed at 3.7 or 3.8 mbps instead of 4.0 mbps , the disconnection problem would be solved?
andrew55 wrote I forced my TG585 V8 modem to sync on adsl1 instead of adsl2+.
do you advise me to do that to be able to benefit from the full 4.0 mbps speed without disconnections? is it a safe practice?
if you get anywhere in the 3.6+ range on speed tests than idm is giving you the actually 4mbps. you have to take into account that the 4mbps is the theoretical up to goal, real world speeds vary, usually in dsl here on leb -10% of he theoretical max but your mileage may vary.
andrew55
@Kfc I think you might be able to get the whole 4 mbps (real speeds not more than 3.6 as @haidcar said). I don't think they will give you "3.6" on your modem. Send them an email now and ask them what your line can handle. IDM will either answer immediately or conduct a "feasibility" test and let you know. Chances are if your line can't handle 4 mbps now, then it won't immediately after the upgrade. You have to wait until ogero upgrades your CO.
With regards to resyncing at adsl1 I told IDM that my modem is showing 10 mbps as a maximum speed instead of 5 on adsl2+ but they said my line can't handle more than 4. So it won't help you upgrade but it might improve your line statistics on your modem. It slightly decreases the ping at least on my side and it decreases time outs too. My internet seems more responsive. Thats what I think..
kfc
andrew55 wroteSend them an email now and ask them what your line can handle. IDM will either answer immediately or conduct a "feasibility" test and let you know.
The central in my region can definitely handle 4 mbp. the issue is in my line. i called and asked your question to idm's technical support. the guy asked me to wait few seconds then told me it can handle 4 mbps. how was he able to figure out that fast? is it possible that he just looked at "maximum bandwith" in the line's stats? thus is his answer reliable or should i ask for a feasibility test?
andrew55
@Kfc I wouldn't know but at 49 db attenuation your line will handle at best 5-6 mbps according to the adsl2+ graph and if your CO is well equipped then you can benefit from the 4 mbps but i would reconfirm with the sales department and not just the tech support.
Raficoo
So my dad went to Ogero today to apply for the new DSL plans, and he's telling me that a manager told him that starting 1st July you can apply for a new plan, however according to him, it won't be until August 1st that we actually get the new speeds and quotas... so I'm not sure whether they're not informed correctly about the speed implementation date, or this is the actual case. Did anyone else using Ogero tried to apply yet?
NuclearVision
@raficoo what's odd? You can apply for the plan one month before the speeds are implemented :)
HotCreep
NuclearVision wrote@raficoo what's odd? You can apply for the plan one month before the speeds are implemented :)
Depends on whether he wanted to apply for a new dsl line or to switch from an old plan to a new one. The switch is supposed take place on the 1st of July, applying for a new plan takes a month so yea
Raficoo
NuclearVision wrote@raficoo what's odd? You can apply for the plan one month before the speeds are implemented :)
HotCreep wroteDepends on whether he wanted to apply for a new dsl line or to switch from an old plan to a new one. The switch is supposed take place on the 1st of July, applying for a new plan takes a month so yea
I want to apply for a higher plan than the lowest one(which comes by default without applying), but what I'm not getting is whether Ogero users will get the new minimum speed(2mbit) on July 1st or August 1st?
HotCreep
Raficoo wroteNuclearVision wrote@raficoo what's odd? You can apply for the plan one month before the speeds are implemented :)
HotCreep wroteDepends on whether he wanted to apply for a new dsl line or to switch from an old plan to a new one. The switch is supposed take place on the 1st of July, applying for a new plan takes a month so yea
I want to apply for a higher plan than the lowest one(which comes by default without applying), but what I'm not getting is whether Ogero users will get the new minimum speed(2mbit) on July 1st or August 1st?
I just posted what happened to you to the minister's councilor, he replied with and I quote
"Not true. Please send a message to
suggestions@mpt.gov.lb with details (your phone #, Ogero CO, name of the "manager")"
So i guess that means all the upgrades will be implemented on the 1st of July
Raficoo
HotCreep wroteI just posted what happened to you to the minister's councilor, he replied with and I quote
"Not true. Please send a message to
suggestions@mpt.gov.lb with details (your phone #, Ogero CO, name of the "manager")"
So i guess that means all the upgrades will be implemented on the 1st of July
haha yea I just saw the tweet myself, thanks for asking him!
HotCreep
Not a problem, I wanted to know myself after all :-P
ILIA_93
I went to Ogero to apply last Thursday, the employees didn't receive any instructions yet about the new plans, all they know that there will be new plans next month, even if you call 1515, the employees are useless too. I don't know who is responsible for managing this, and why the employees are less informed about this than the normal population! If the ministry approved the new speed to be supplied starting 1st of July, then we must be allowed to choose the plans we want already :/ Unless it is true that they won't provide the new plans until next August...
Johnaudi
Cyberia has still provided no information and still says it will : "in the coming days".
5 days left till it becomes the 21st, where it's no longer possible to switch plans after that date.
nuclearcat
I am curious if backbone bandwidth will be given to private ISPs, migration process as i heard made easy, so most of users will migrate to Ogero. Most hit will be IDM and Terranet.
On worst scenario you will see bankruptcy and closure of IDM and Terranet.
geekevo
Nuclearcat this is unacceptable this should be put on the limelight for a while. It's like ogero wants to monopolize the market.
Johnaudi
I don't think this will become a cartel though.
nuclearcat
Cartel? No, ISPs too divided, and i never seen them cooperating properly.
Unacceptable - yes. As soon as market monopolized... well, it is already monopolized, and politicians using it for their purposes, and country technological power are their last concern. When they need some political gains, you will see some improvements on telecom.
Just when end-users internet monopolized also, you might see worse things. But you are geeks, and some of you understand that. Majority of people just will switch to Ogero. And thats sad.
ballad
nuclearcat wroteBut you are geeks, and some of you understand that. Majority of people just will switch to Ogero. And thats sad.
but ogero is supplying what the geek needs, which is a constant ping 24/7 and a reliable speed.
take for example visp or sodetel, both unreliable for games.
sailor
I got this reply from idm today
Thank you for your email.
In answer to your inquiry below, please be informed that we are still preparing the new pricing and packages, and shall notify you as soon as it is completed .
Moreover, we will propose to you the adequate package at the beginning of July.
Thank you for your patience.
Sincerely,