I am contemplating the idea of buying a new computer. I figure it could be the right time to learn to pick my components. So I am asking you guys for advices.
I guess I should define my usage first: I am not a gamer, nor do I use graphic intensive applications like movie editing and the likes. My main uses of the PC:
* I'd be using Linux exclusively as an OS. BSD could be installed if I am more comfortable with it. But no Windows.
* Multimedia: Listening to music and watching movies.
* Internet browsing: Flash is still out there :-/
* Web development and sysadmin: For development purposes I need to be able to run Apache and PostgreSQL on separate Virtual Machines. It would actually be nice to be able to handle multiple VMs at the same time :)
Now before I start, let me tell you what I have in mind.
I am trying to build a PC that would be as cheap as possible while still satisfying my needs. I have also a perennial concern, as I want this PC to be still running in 5 years, but it is not a major priority.
CPU
Let me get this straight from the beginning. I am not interested in i7 or i5. I absolutely do not feel the need for this power and they are definitely out of my price range. My approach is to buy exactly what I need, and this is what I am trying to determine.
I am satisfied with the Core 2 Duo so far. Since I can get it for rather cheap (120 euros) I think it is a smart way to go. But I am curious about the Core 2 Quad. It is still affordable (150 euros) but I don't know if the price difference is worth it. I mean, I am looking for one good reason to shift to Quad, other than "it's more recent, Core 2 Duo is old". I fear that Quad would need more cooling (with two more cores running) and also fear that it might limit me on motherboard choices.
Also any positive feedback on the i3 (that is surprisingly cheap) ? I read nothing but good reviews about it. The only problem that seems recurrent is that it requires expensive motherboards. (Unlike Core 2 Duo who is outperformed but has a plethora of motherboards available).
*EDIT* The more I read about i3 the more I am interested. Hopefully I won't have troubles running linux on it.
And, how does AMD rate ? I know nothing about their product (Although this post is written on an AMD Athlon X2 64 ... :P )
I am also wondering whether to move to 64 bit. For me 32 bit is still the way to go because I am afraid of some apps not being available for 64 bits. However, looking ahead, the move to 64 bit seem inevitable, so should I do it right now?
I guess what I am asking for is your feedback on this:
*Did any of you have problems running 32bit OS on 64bit hardware? Or 32bit apps on 64bit OS ?
*And what about the memory limitations? First I hear that 32bit OS is limited to 3GB. Then I hear that it's not true. Than I hear it is ... I don't know what to think anymore. I am going all out on RAM on this computer. I don't want to be limited.
Memory
This is where I'll be spending my money. So far 1GB of DDR have proven enough for regular use. But lately I have been playing with sysadmin tools, and I want to be able to launch many virtual machines at the same time. For practicing. So basically I want to get as much Ram as I can. Some questions:
Is there a limit to the size of memory ? Or could I go as high as I want ? Does it depend on the processor (architecture, number of cores, model, ...) ?
What is the difference between DDR, DDR2, DDR3? Here's an approximation of the prices for a 1GB stick
DDR: 40-50 euros (!! Surprisingly expensive !!)
DDR2: 20-30 euros
DDR3: 30-40 euros.
*EDIT* On all the websites I visited, DDR seems to be more expensive than the other. Any reason ?
So 8GB of DDR2 should cost me around 200 euros, while DDR3 would cost a 100euros more.Once again, why should I pay more to get DDR3 (other than it's newer :S )?
Motherboards
I have no idea how to pick this one. I know that I'd have to choose it according to my processor. But any other tips? What should I look for?
Graphic cards, sound cards
Also clueless about that. I read some CPUs do their own graphic processing. Is there any tangible benefit for someone like me to buy an external graphics card?
Most graphic demanding tasks for me would be playing Flash in a browser or watching a movie (with respectable resolution). Can i3 (for example) do that ?
*EDIT* I'd be interested in dual monitoring capabilities. So ... what could be done there ?
Did I miss anything ?
I don't know if I have anything more to consider, don't hestitate to mention it, I need your experiences :)
I guess I should define my usage first: I am not a gamer, nor do I use graphic intensive applications like movie editing and the likes. My main uses of the PC:
* I'd be using Linux exclusively as an OS. BSD could be installed if I am more comfortable with it. But no Windows.
* Multimedia: Listening to music and watching movies.
* Internet browsing: Flash is still out there :-/
* Web development and sysadmin: For development purposes I need to be able to run Apache and PostgreSQL on separate Virtual Machines. It would actually be nice to be able to handle multiple VMs at the same time :)
Now before I start, let me tell you what I have in mind.
I am trying to build a PC that would be as cheap as possible while still satisfying my needs. I have also a perennial concern, as I want this PC to be still running in 5 years, but it is not a major priority.
CPU
Let me get this straight from the beginning. I am not interested in i7 or i5. I absolutely do not feel the need for this power and they are definitely out of my price range. My approach is to buy exactly what I need, and this is what I am trying to determine.
I am satisfied with the Core 2 Duo so far. Since I can get it for rather cheap (120 euros) I think it is a smart way to go. But I am curious about the Core 2 Quad. It is still affordable (150 euros) but I don't know if the price difference is worth it. I mean, I am looking for one good reason to shift to Quad, other than "it's more recent, Core 2 Duo is old". I fear that Quad would need more cooling (with two more cores running) and also fear that it might limit me on motherboard choices.
Also any positive feedback on the i3 (that is surprisingly cheap) ? I read nothing but good reviews about it. The only problem that seems recurrent is that it requires expensive motherboards. (Unlike Core 2 Duo who is outperformed but has a plethora of motherboards available).
*EDIT* The more I read about i3 the more I am interested. Hopefully I won't have troubles running linux on it.
And, how does AMD rate ? I know nothing about their product (Although this post is written on an AMD Athlon X2 64 ... :P )
I am also wondering whether to move to 64 bit. For me 32 bit is still the way to go because I am afraid of some apps not being available for 64 bits. However, looking ahead, the move to 64 bit seem inevitable, so should I do it right now?
I guess what I am asking for is your feedback on this:
*Did any of you have problems running 32bit OS on 64bit hardware? Or 32bit apps on 64bit OS ?
*And what about the memory limitations? First I hear that 32bit OS is limited to 3GB. Then I hear that it's not true. Than I hear it is ... I don't know what to think anymore. I am going all out on RAM on this computer. I don't want to be limited.
Memory
This is where I'll be spending my money. So far 1GB of DDR have proven enough for regular use. But lately I have been playing with sysadmin tools, and I want to be able to launch many virtual machines at the same time. For practicing. So basically I want to get as much Ram as I can. Some questions:
Is there a limit to the size of memory ? Or could I go as high as I want ? Does it depend on the processor (architecture, number of cores, model, ...) ?
What is the difference between DDR, DDR2, DDR3? Here's an approximation of the prices for a 1GB stick
DDR: 40-50 euros (!! Surprisingly expensive !!)
DDR2: 20-30 euros
DDR3: 30-40 euros.
*EDIT* On all the websites I visited, DDR seems to be more expensive than the other. Any reason ?
So 8GB of DDR2 should cost me around 200 euros, while DDR3 would cost a 100euros more.Once again, why should I pay more to get DDR3 (other than it's newer :S )?
Motherboards
I have no idea how to pick this one. I know that I'd have to choose it according to my processor. But any other tips? What should I look for?
Graphic cards, sound cards
Also clueless about that. I read some CPUs do their own graphic processing. Is there any tangible benefit for someone like me to buy an external graphics card?
Most graphic demanding tasks for me would be playing Flash in a browser or watching a movie (with respectable resolution). Can i3 (for example) do that ?
*EDIT* I'd be interested in dual monitoring capabilities. So ... what could be done there ?
Did I miss anything ?
I don't know if I have anything more to consider, don't hestitate to mention it, I need your experiences :)